Judaism and Genital Mutilation

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Toopac, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #81
    sure, but first you have to tell me what u're talking about. what female circumcision in Judaism?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #82
    Since you consider female circumcision as part of Islam, according to the same logic it should also be considered part of Judaism,are you condeming Judaism? :rolleyes:
     
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    #83
    :eek:

    It seems that Judaism promotes it.


    edited to add: How antisemitic is Judaism!
     
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    #84
    along with infant's penis sucking

    It seems that the rabbis are pedophile :eek:
     
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  5. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #85
    Quite obviously your limit is lower than mine.

    A camel never sees its own hump

    I wouldn't compare baby torture as:

    I do get your point, it's ok for Jews;)

    Lol, you obviously didn't read critical posts.
     
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  6. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #86
    This thread is hate, hate against Jews, so says the bigot:D

    Reputation left:



    Obviously, they had nothing to say to the facts, and I know whom that is;)

    It is honourable to be accused by those who deserve to be accused - Proverb.
     
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  7. ChaosTrivia

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    #87
    oh. I don't consider FGM part of Islam. Of course it isn't. If I said it is, by mistake.
    I just consider it to be a barbaric act, and a comparison between FGM and the jewish&muslim circumcision in males to be extremely foolish. that's all.
    This is why I entered this thread, not to argue that FGM is part of Islam but to argue that the comparison between FGM and jewish&muslim circumcisions demonstrates lack of intellect.
     
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  8. Toopac

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    #88
    That's good to know.

    One might also argue that the refusal to see genital mutilation as wrong, no matter to what degree means one suffers from a lack of intellect and or humanity.

    FYI:

    Judaism
    In the book of Genesis (17: 10-14), circumcision represents the covenant made by God with Abraham and his descendants.
    Traditional religious circumcision is performed by a mohel (pronounced mo-hell in Hebrew or moyle in Yiddish). It is usually carried out on the eighth day after birth, unless there is a danger to the child's health, in which case it should be delayed until that danger has passed. In the UK, mohelim attend 40 to 50 circumcisions and have to pass practical and theoretical examinations during their training before performing circumcision alone.

    Islam
    The divine law or sharia defines every aspect of Muslim life. It is based upon the Holy Koran, the hadith (the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed) and the sunnah (Prophet's tradition).
    All Muslims agree that these are the three sources of Islamic law, but different groups interpret their application in different ways. Circumcision is not mentioned in the Koran, but has the status of sunnah. Only the Shafiite school of law regards circumcision as obligatory (wajib), while the Hanafite, Jafarite, Malikite, Hanbalite and Zaidite regard it as only recommended, because it is sunnah.
    Even those who consider circumcision an obligatory duty for themselves do not see it as an essential requirement for others to become a Muslim. However, the procedure is very commonly practised and is certainly seen as an important external symbol of submission to God's will.

    So a few points:

    1) In Judaism male mutilation is from the book.

    2) In Islam male mutilation is not from the book.

    3) To be Jewish one must lop of their foreskin to join,

    4) To be a Muslim one need not lop off their foreskin to join.
     
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    #89
    Most likely because ethopia is mainly an Islamic country.

    Many of these Islamic countries don't give choices. You do it or you are killed or beaten.
     
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    #90
    Do you even read what is posted in the tread or do you just post stupid posts that you have previoulsy prepared? :rolleyes:
     
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    #91
    Too in Islam female sexual mutiliation is from the book.

    In Judaism it isn't.

    If you look at my op I quoted the Islamic passages.
     
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    #92
    So you started a threat out of mistake without doing any research?

    Ethiopia is a Christian dominant country with 62% of its population being Christian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia#Religion.
    Which book you talking about? Does it say anywhere in Quran? The hadith you refering to is week (reason this hadith is week because there is no name mentioned of that women) unless its from Bukhari or Muslim. Other reason for is that woman was going to perform the procedure on the girl anyway, so he told her to remove only little skin. There is no "order" from Muhammad to do the procedure on girls.

    Here is quote from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision
     
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    #93
    so where do you stand now on infant's penis sucking by the Jewish ?
    is this a lie ? a fabricated story ?
    you were very quick to suck-up to your masters and jumped in to show me wrong

    have you ever heard

    best slave is the one who thinks he is free!

    do think-over it
     
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    #94
    The only one actually sucking the p seems to be a couple of pedophiles on this forum. I don't think that the very few that suck the blood out are doing something wise and I don't condone the actions of those few. But I also don't condone any lame person who thinks it is a sexual act to use a tool to suction of blood. It takes a tweaked mind to make that a sexual act or one who is only looking to condemn a group and not an act.
     
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    #95
    glad that you admit that you posted crap earlier , denying that such thing even exists ...the one 'fabricating' stuff was you .. anyway better late than never ...

    it is up to you to think that it is sexual or not, what you said earlier was that such thing does not even exist ... it was a lie fabricated some imam :eek:
     
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    #96
    You still have not proven your idea that they are sucking the p*nis of these children. That is what you keep arguing isn't it?

    But not only that you are trying to prove that all Jews do this sucking thing right? All rabbis suck on little boys, that is your point isn't it?

    This is just like the fact that there have been pedophiles in the USA so all Americans are pedophiles right? Oh, and since all Americans are Christians, than all Christians are pedophiles too.

    Come on, just spit it out.
     
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    #97
    beating the dead horse ...? there were references in my 1st post ..
    [/QUOTE]

    I never said any such thing and it would we very naive to give statements like this

    the only one giving sweeping statements and saying that NO one does like this was you :eek:
     
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    #98


    I never said any such thing and it would we very naive to give statements like this

    the only one giving sweeping statements and saying that NO one does like this was you :eek:[/QUOTE]

    Did I miss the part where he actually sucks on the baby in the way you would?

    I really didn't see that.

    But then again, the idea of sucking off the blood is bizarre and criminal if it was done in your way. Your point still doesn't quite stick until you prove that it is actually what you are saying it is. I still do not agree with it either way, but to use a device to suck off the blood and actually performing oral sex as you would are quite different.

    Medically speaking it is lame to not just clean up the blood as you would in any other medical procedure. Also, the Jew who makes contact with the blood and his mouth has obviously ignored the laws about blood within Judaism.
     
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    #99
    go back.
    I hope you are mature enough to understand that old posts still remain in the thread, they are not taken away by the tooth fairy :)

    I did not mention that how the sucking is done ... and you came to say that

    it is a lie fabricated by the imams'

    and now you said in post above

    so 1st it was a 'lie' than you came to say 'the very few that suck' ... like the wise say .. think before you speak .. so you don't end up in embarrassing salutations
     
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    #100
    Yes, I have never heard of this before as being SOME truth, but the problem still stands that you and many others claim that there is oral sex happening, yet you can't back that part up.

    The truth is I never saw proof of them sucking the blood before this, but you still don't show proof of your belief of how they do it. I still don't agree with the process either way, but I won't take your word for it that there is a sexual thing going on until you prove it. Now do you understand?

    It is like you are waiting for me to admit they are having oral sex and I won't without the proof. I already admitted they (a few, minority, limited number) suck the blood off and as stated some use some sort of device. You are trying to back me in some corner where I agree with your pedophile view of things without proof.

    This goes along with the imam's teaching that the Jews test their daughters for virginity. Look up that thread as well, it has to do with a pervert coming up with the method in his twisted mind instead of actually looking at the facts that have been recorded through history.
     
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