There is no proof for the Higgs-Boson other than wild guesses or string-theory...But the LHC was built to possibly find it. Crazier ideas than these even are tolerated much more than the belief in the unknowable reverser of entropy into working energy. I have made atheists see they do not follow a scientific method in their denouncing something they can't see. All our scientific knowledge today was once myth. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. The question should be: Why are you diminishing nature to your own personification? You cannot fathom what the true nature of God is because you have eyes that see through certain spectrums and limbs that feel certain magnetism. Science does not know how life began on earth without an organic beginning, does not know how the four fundamental forces came into effect...And you're telling me the cause of all this is not REAL? You need to think bigger and more magnificant if you are to grasp God, for he is NOT Mickey Mouse in the sky. That's my point. The first scientists were priests; today scientists are lauded as priests...As if they speak directly from God... Never forget physics came from philosophy; not the other way around. Study Pythagoras; beautifully combined the teaching of infinitely complex max with shapes, and taught his pupils the laws fundamental to nature. It is all misunderstanding. Randomness does not exist; it cannot. We have systems we cannot calculate yet, but all laws are orchestrated in a very specific way, creating order in themselves and becoming order because of it. That's my definition of God, the primary cause and that which sustains and rejuvenates. For me to assume God is anything but causation is for me to diminish God and thus make God flawed because i can comprehend it. Think of a being "inferior" to you trying to comprehend how big a star is, or how infinitely dense a black hole (theoretically) is. We'll only understand it when we lose ourselves, our perishable identities; but there is something enduring in us that proceeds and serves that around us after we are gone. This life isn't the end for us or our bodies. Nothing in nature would have us believe this, this idea of finality was constructed by man and his infernal religion to take away from God; which only truly exists separated from those restrictions and dogmas. I know it's cheesy, but I see God everywhere and if I'm under the right mental state, I truly see God in every particle. We're all the same. Ever have that feeling the people around you are robots and you're the only real thing? No, we are all the same; you are also looking through their eyes and they through yours. Physics even is proving that separation of particles is an illusion; we're one. And with that knowledge, we must progress towards Light/Illumina I've been educated by Jesuits before, and yeah, they are the scariest people on the face of the Earth...But God I love them... Don't just conclude there is nothing greater than you and you will become nothing after you "die," you know that isn't true. A just Atheist will be crowned above an ignorantly sinful "believer," for it is actions, not words that will save you.
~ A way for Atheist to comprehend the existence of God can be accomplished by reasoning the purpose for governance is itself an existence without form. Unlike Christan's the proper Bible dictates that only Heaven exists as the accomplishment of God over all other matters and only the understanding of our Gods accomplishments will it insure there is an everlasting existence through time. - God's way or the highway, Satan is dead is why the subject is of interest to Atheist as well. ~ By our creating laws and attempts to reach ever greater truths we inadvertently are attempting to rectify the purpose of our expulsion from the Garden of Eden and the reason for our existence. Becoming complete whether a Believer or an Atheist makes no difference in reentering the Garden - Homage to God is not important, however obeying the rules is a requirement.
Bullshit. Atheists usually just want to be left alone. You think I chose atheism? Not really. I evolved into one by watching, observing, and learning. In the course of that I lost many friends who disagreed with me, and thus cut me off because I changed my beliefs without trying to change theirs. Usually the topic of god would be brought up, or whatever else religious they would be going on about, they would ask me what I thought, and so I told them. That is what happens when you don't follow the fucking herd. I'm not a complacent motherfucker who will lie about his thoughts or who he is. My own father disowned me for it, so I honestly am at the point of seeing how much of a cult all religions are. Here's a great thing. "I believe in defending the constitution of the United States, and all that it says". That becomes "You're not my son, I never want to hear from you again, get out of my life". Freedom of religion, as long as its THEIR religion, is fine, for most people. The moment though, that you question that, or you believe something different, you become a target even here in the United States. So I will say it again. There is no God. All your theories about why we think the way we do are bullshit. You are eating, breathing, thinking, and living in a system passed down to you, and you dare not question it because you are too weak. Only the strong in mind dare to question.
This. Similar situation myself, although they didn't really disown me, they're just extremely judgmental. I usually let their unintelligent comments slide until they really press me on it, for instance.. I was on a walk with my religious brother (although I think he's well-intentioned as most are) and we got to discussing Jesus and I said something like, "It's not that I totally reject Christianity, I find value in it - but not in the same way you and most others do. I don't believe it's to be taken literally, it has symbolic meaning to it, it's like art." To not sound condescending I said at the end, "and who knows, maybe I'm wrong and the truth is that it is a literal story." He followed up with something like, "Everyone is on their path, just because you don't get it now doesn't mean you'll never get it." LOL, what a condescending asshole-ish remark, and I was trying hard not to sound that way myself. Christians can't for the life of them think about any view other than their own, it's literally a separate reality. Well after he said that I decided to cleverly grill him on the facts, for the next 20 minutes I had him contradicting himself several times and I respectfully pointed out where he did so. The pace started picking up when we were reaching our friends house, I knew he wanted to end it cause it was getting brutal.
Now thats a crock if I ever heard one. Atheists are becoming more militant and emboldened by the day. There was even a study done at the university of minnesota that shows that atheists are the most looked down upon group in America. This was passed down from forum to forum and all the atheists were screaming " I told you so". These are the same atheists who dissect everything that is related to religion or religious book witha fine tooth comb, and yet they missed the fact that EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH WORK DONE ON THIS STUDY WAS AN ATHEIST!!!!! Yea , they want to be left alone, and they are trying to pass garbage studies like this past honest and naive people, yet not one of these honest truth seekers brought this fact up. I have a relative (inlaw) who is an atheist, but their parent never disowned them, and i pray for anyone whose parents disowned them, but not all religious people are like that. Maybe you and others believe that god doesnt exists, but there are many intellectual people that do believe in gods existence and this debate has gone on for 50 years. The great richard dawkins is one example of a militant atheist who is afraid to even debate the accusations in his book the god delusion and has been challenged for 2 years by doctor william lane craig on it. Doctor anthony flew one of the most well know atheists of the 20th century believes in intelligent design (though doesnt believe in a personal god), sir frederick hoyle ditto. These are your experiences but to say that all intellectual people agree with you and there is no evidence is a plain fallacious , blanket statement. I agree that no one should ever force their religious beliefs down anyones throat but to say atheists dont do it is a lie. The atheists I have known are ride, judgmental and downright rediculing, and only a tiny percentage of their brethren point this out. This is a blatent biasm. Out there in the real world I have never preached once to others about converting to my religion. I just treat them as my fellow human beings with respect and love. I let my actions as god (as god would want me to treat others) do my talking for me. We theists are learning how to do this and atheists better hope that more of us dont start learning this method of defending our faith because we farrrrrr outnumber you guys. NZnat, maybe its because he never needed to look for any evidence or study it. To me your dad is a man of faith. If I ever had a chance to talk to him I would point him to guys like doctor craig and dinesh desouza, and explain to him how dawkins is afraid to debate his own accusations thrown at theists.
He makes a very good point here at least. I'll watch some more of him, but I think Dawkins would still pwn him.
IHS Isis Horus Set Luceferian trinity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo63LqTF5Zg&feature=player_embedded#
I know, isn't it beautiful? Ever wonder why people say "Jesus H Christ?" : IHS Lucifer + (AZ=F) -> IHS Holy Mother Isis (Mary/Holy Spirit/Binah) Holy Son Horus (Jesus/Son/Chokmah) Holy Father Set (God/Father/Keter) So, like, do they not teach this stuff in regular churches?