Judaism and Genital Mutilation

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Toopac, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #41
    Thanks for sharing your understanding of Jewish tradition. It is always nice to have an Islamic bigot tell us what the Jews believe. Your usual ignorant post is always appreciated for the way it exposes you.

    I would arrest and jail any man who sucked a child's penis. Do you want to try and spin that into some of your bullshit new? You are really a pathetic little man aren't you?
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #42
    No one responds because everyone knows it is a lie that was fabricated by some imam. Do you ever bother checking facts and not just believing everything they feed you??
    Geesh, kids these days, they don't make 'em like they use to.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #43
    It took one imam to come up with this, I wonder why? I wonder what that imam was thinking about what he made up the lie? Maybe it was really close to him, something from experience.
     
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  4. new

    new Peon

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    #44
    do you want to say that there is no such thing as penis sucking of infant for Jewish ?
    I wonder why wiki says
    that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Metzitzah


    and the link from MSNBC that is posted
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/
    Rabbi sucks baby’s penis after circumcision. Three babies get herpes. One dies.

    now that news is not from some remote region of AFRICA .. that is right from the heart of America




    I understand your anger and concern, since you are atheist, so definitely you are disturbed that I said such a horrible thing about a particular religion
     
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  5. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #45
    You confuse medical and religious need, do you think we are that stupid?

    This barbarism is something one should choose, it's not something that requires immediate attention other than for religious beliefs. Same as tattoos.

    This is a good point, it was raised by St0x and also me in the link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah.

    Children have suffered this at the hands of the religious, I would ask every reasonable person that takes part in this thread to at least agree that these were needless deaths for religion.

    Actually new is right, feel free to explore what he has stated.
     
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  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #46
    Oh, since you seem to know can you tell us of all the JEWISH RELIGIOUS CIRCUMCISION performed each year, what percentage involve SUCKING THE CHILD'S PENIS?

    100%
    90%
    50%
    10%
    1%
    less than 1%

    Since you and new seem to hold yourself out as experts, please tell us all how wide spread this Jewish tradition of sucking the child's penis is? Surely you must know since you are backing up the resident authority on Jewish tradition.

    I have read about it in the news as you have. It seems to be a very isolated practice that is limited to an extreme minority. That you and new purposely try to conflate that with all circumcisions is dishonest and repugnant. I don't expect any better from new, and I guess I wont from you either.

    Do you really think that is a part of customary Jewish tradition or an anomaly?
     
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  7. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #47
    I didn't say all, I didn't say anything you purport that I said, nor did I say that I am an expert, please keep a level of honesty, being honest helps, because even though everything you say might be bollocks some people will say "I believe him he's honest":D

    Fuck yeah, but it's Muslims and Islam that do it! sorry!...

    I'm not sure how widespread it is but I will look into it, however the point being and you must not change or divert from that is; that this was carried out for by the religious and infected babies during 'harmless mutilations', do you believe that is wrong? You now accept it does happen, but are trying to say "it's a little, thing, it's not widespread", yet you plainly denied it even happens above.

    Now, reversing your question and talking about Islam;

    Do you really think that is a part of customary Muslim tradition or an anomaly?

    You might seek knowledge in Gworld's post and also may want to check this out yourself.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12823149&postcount=31

    In fact looking at that information it is actually not a part of Islam, not much fun for haters but still:(
     
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    CMike111 Peon

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    #48
    In Egypt it is common.
     
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    #49
    And also banned, so this "non Islamic" culture of mutilation is illegal.

     
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    #50
    Actually Mubarak tried to ban it and failed.
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #51
    Are you fucking stupid?

    1. I unequivocally condemned it.
    2. I acknowledge it happens.

    You somehow read that and yet accuse me of the exact opposite of what I said. Idiot. What I did what challenge new's implication that is was standard Jewish tradition. When I did that, you replied that he new was right. You adopted his position again trying to make it sounds like that is what happens in all Jewish circumcision.

    Where have I made any post speaking about Islam on this topic? Time to put your own hate in check asshole.
     
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  12. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #52
    See an idiot reading you post could come away thinking "oh it's not banned" but you don't care whilst spreading you hate, lets be honest.

    Facts:

    Hosni Mubarak president: 7 October 1981 – 2 January 1982

    Hence it's banned whether your an idiot or not.
     
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  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #53
    He has been and is still President of Egypt, as he has been since 1981. He has be running that country since Sadat was assasinated.

    What misrepresentation are you trying to convey showing the end date of 1982?
     
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  14. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #54
    That's good:

    When I said:

    The fact is there are those that go around hating Islam for no good reason, in fact I would go as far as saying; unconsciously I was one of them.

    This thread is riddled with hate, it may not be from you, and the comment was a general stab at haters.
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #55
    Regardless, of when he was in office or not it was banned in 2007, if the ban failed 700 times prior to that it was nevertheless banned in 2007.

    Sorry for bad information:eek:
     
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    #56
    Based on your link:

    "This law had proved ineffective and in a survey in 2000, a study found that 97% of the country's population still practiced FGC."

    97% is a lot.
     
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    new Peon

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    #57
    No, dear you did not acknowledge that it happens, read what you said initially

    there is no point to argue that how many follow it or not
    when you start absurd threads about Muslims do you ponder over that question ?
    brwntwm starts thread
    Somali Islamists whip women for wearing bras
    now what percent of Muslim women are whipped for wearing bras?

    and I don't care what ways are being followed by other persons and religions, it is their own business, however your hypocrisy does need to be exposed!



     
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  18. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #58
    Slow down, you are all over the place posting totally false information and making accusations about people that are wholly unsupported by their own words. You are coming off like a real wanker.

    As for whatever hateful shit mike has posted, as I said the other day he is useless and I have him on ignore.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12820183&postcount=187
     
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    #59
    Expose me. In all my dishonesty and I will repent.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #60
    I don't expect you to understand the distinction. I made a thread about something bad that was happening in today's news. In no way did I imply or say all Muslims behave like that. In fact, quite the opposite, I think these men were twisting Islam in a bizarre way that was not a normal practice. It seemed like it is something we can all say was silly and backwards.

    More importantly, it was a current news story, I did not write it. It was not something I dragged into a thread to make Muslims look bad. I was posting about what is happening in Somalia and the abuse happening against innocent Muslims in a governmentless country being run by terrorist thugs.

    Muslims should be arm and arm with me condemning what is happening in Somalia.
     
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