CAUSE or chance. . .which is it???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nehemiah, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. #1
    GOD Caused ALL of this. . .because 'cause' prove existence, huh...?;
    Nobody but JESUS CHRIST got HIS butt kicked for me/you. . .and then went on to die for me/you. . .and just in case HE was lying, and knew that HE was lying, HE still did so, knowing that HE was not WHO HE claimed to be. . .so please explain to me why I should/would believe anything you have to state contrary to what I STILL believe???

    Now, in case all you 'ats' and/or 'ags' really, really, really want proof that GOD IS, then, you'll have to accept proof that comes from the ONLY WORD that HE has APPROVED, [SCRIPTURE="The Bible"],. . ."It is written..."; and I just dare any of you ['ats' and/or 'ags'] to accept this particular challenge!!!
     
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  2. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/שער_מנשה

    That's a short car trip away from my home.
    Its Israel's largest mental health center. I heard the closed psychiatric departments are very nice.
    You are welcome to drop by for a visit.
     
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  3. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Gotya, which means you're just another one who can't argue the points, huh???
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    What point? Go ahead and believe if you want to.

    Why the hell do you need to keep telling the rest of us?
     
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  5. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    GOD'S WORD states it like this, "The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God....(Psalm 14:1)", and then later on, HE even repeats it, "The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God....(Psalm 53:1)"; must have been bad to read it the first time from "the invisible guy in the sky", but then, when HE repeats it, dangggg, must be some bitter pill to have to swallow, huh?

    That must mean that if, I'm right, and there's really "A CAUSE", and not just "chance", then anybody calling, and/or doubting the existence of THE "CAUSE" is. . .well, you know, but if those..., uh, you know, aren't really...s, uh, you know, then they should be able to prove themselves not to be, huh?
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    I'm not sure about "the rest of us" but, I'm just trying to convince "you" of voluntarily going to "hell".
    Do you not know that, It is written, "But without faith it is impossible to please HIM: for he that comes to GOD must believe that HE IS, and that HE IS a rewarder of them that diligently seek HIM. (Heb. 11:6)"
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    hahahahahaha priceless

    I love how the well intentioned loonies insist on making their text overbearing to read.
     
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    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    Death isn't final. Only your ego ends. This life's a test. You aren't free right now.

    ...and so on and so forth...

    This discussion ends when people disagree what happens at the end of your life.

    If you really ended when you died, you could do whatever you wanted during your life regardless of the repercussions. Very few people live this way, stating they'd rather do good for goodness' sake.

    That in itself is admission that what you do and who you are carries on when you pass; the only thing that returns to the earth is the body you're currently inhabiting.

    Believe what you want, just know that you need to find the common ground between all beliefs. The only incorrect belief is the one that goes against nature's logic and conservation of energy.
     
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    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    Here's my theory. The bible is the word of the devil. Since the devil is almost as powerful as god he can easily fool people into thinking he is god. God just doesn't care, if he did he'd destroy the devil, after all he created him. This would explain all the sacrifices and killings in the bible and also why religion leads to so many wars, it's just what the devil wants.

    It may be even possible that the devil already destroyed god and should you wish to debate me my answer will be "That's what the devil wants you to think".
     
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  11. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    So very true, "Death" is not a period, but rather, only a conjunction. When this physical life ends, your real being has, in the words of that song, ". . .only just begun..."; that is to, Eternally/Everlastingly Live OR, Eternally/Everlastingly Die (Where the "worm"/maggot, that's eating your Eternally/Everlastingly rotting flesh, "dies not (Mark 9:44,46,48)". You get to "FREELY" choose, here and now. . .ONLY, how you'll Eternally/Everlastingly Live, or how you'll Eternally/Everlastingly Die. . .either way, its a constant state of being.
    It is written, "He that believes on THE SON has everlasting life: and he that believes not THE SON shall not see life; but the wrath of GOD abides on him. (John 3:36)". . .note the present tense verbs.
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    Great "theory" Roman. . .except for one thing, the word "almost"; And really, I kid you not, GOD cares so much that when HE, in all of HIS AWESOMENESS, finally straightens everything out, no one, no one, no one, will never ever, never again, even entertain the thought of revolting/rebelling against HIS SOVEREIGNTY. . .because everything that could have been tried to usurp HIS SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY, let along HIS ONE and ONLY GOD-NESS, will have been tried, and all that remain will know that GOD IS GOD, HE IS THE ONLY GOD, and all else nor anyone else is not GOD.

    BTW, GOD could give less than a tinker's damn about "religion". . .HE'S only interested in RELATIONSHIP!!! And what the devil doesn't want you to think, let alone, know, is that he is GOD'S devil. . .the ultimate object lesson to all of us. GOD is playing that chump like a bass violin.

    It is written, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love GOD, to them who are the called according to HIS purpose. (Romans 8:28)". . .note the ONLY qualifier in front of "things", is "all"?
     
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    That's what the devil wants you to think.
     
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    The devil is not even close to being as powerful as God. Not close. He is only an angel, one that can't do anything without God allowing him to. God has no competition.

    Now the devil is tricky and has been able to sucker people into things, but he leaves some obvious trails behind that are opposite of what God does.

    He has many in his service even if people don't know it.
     
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    To the OP, what the fuck are you saying (no disrespect):confused:

    I thought I'd read you're thread not that I'm religious but out of curiosity but yet I found babble?
     
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    many other things are written, did you know?
     
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    You need to watch this debate completely, Ahmad Deedat Vs Anis Shorrosh:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0x2T3xou4Y&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76CAkPZTofs&feature=related
     
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    Cause. Science has always said that. I don't see how you go from concluding that because a cause was involved the cause is a magic man in the sky, and no doubt your particular cults magic man and not any of the other thousands that have been invented by the illeducated to explain things beyond their intellectual capacity.

    Iv said it before and I'll say it again, and no doubt more times in the future, theists always end up arguing, poorly, for deism. It's bad enough when you have to misreprisent someone elses beliefs, but when you have to misreprisent your own you know you are in trouble.
     
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    And they're all TRUTH. . .provided, they're from THE WORD of GOD [aka, "The Bible"]. . ."did you know?"

    It is written, "For ever, O LORD, THY WORD is settled in heaven. (Psalm 119:89)"
     
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