zionists & neocons in USA

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #62
    Mohamed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker, did not meet with Iraqi intelligence in Prague

    This information come from only one informant :
    Maybe there found proof to confirm evidence after 2006 ?
     
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  3. new

    new Peon

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    #63
    here is an audio by Dr. Stephen J. Sniegoski
    http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_S_J_Sniegoski,_PhD_117008.mp3 which explains the nexus between neocons and zionists

    there is also a book by him which relates to same topic http://www.amazon.com/Transparent-C...=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219938624&sr=1-6

    from a review of the book
    src: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5400/is_200904/ai_n31666360/
     
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  4. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #64

    Thanks for making my first post come true. You are so dependably transparent.
     
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  5. new

    new Peon

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    #65
    if you don't agree with that than please share that your how you define them

    looking forward to learn something new from you!
     
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  6. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #66
    I already answered your question:

    to Islamic extremists and Jew haters they are exactly the same.

    So, to someone like you, a neocon is just a code word for Zionist or Jew. Personally, I don't use the word neocon, it has no meaning to me.
     
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  7. new

    new Peon

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    #67
    so they are the same thing for you too!
     
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  8. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    @new
    What's your answer?


    Sadaam is dead. So it's not possible to ask him.

    [​IMG]
     
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    new Peon

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    #69
    I have not yet formed any opinion on this, that is why I opened the thread asking for comments
     
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  10. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #70
    Zionism is the Jewish movement to support the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People. The goal has been accomplished and the Jewish people living in Israel are Israelis.
     
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    imad Peon

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    Zionism is a Jewish movement to support stealing else land by force.

    Palestine and the Zionists

    To the Editor of The New York Times:

    In a letter published in THE TIMES for March 15, C. C. Johnston disapproves of the work of the delegation from Palestine which for several months has made London its headquarters and has tried to state the case of the non-Zionists of the Holy Land. Mr. Johnston calls their work "insidious." If that be so, American principles and ideals must fairly reek with insidiousness.

    The Zionists are at present outnumbered in Palestine by a majority of nearly ten to one, yet they are working to make of the Holy Land a Zionist state. To do this they must swamp the present inhabitants with subsidized immigrants and, through political influence, gain the economic control of the country. This they are attempting to do, and it is that the Palestine delegation is fighting. At a recent Zionist meeting in Philadelphia Mr. Sokolow, one of the most influential of the Zionist leaders, informed his audience that the Zionists "can have Palestine if they will it." Strangely enough, there are Palestinians who feel that their country belongs to them, rather than to aliens. It is a very natural feeling.

    Zionists in Palestine have told Mr. Johnston that Zionism is good for Palestine, but that is hardly a convincing proof. The aims and methods of political Zionism are opposed to the principles of liberty and justice generally held by Americans. It is an unfortunate thing to support in Palestine a plan of government to which no American would submit in his own land.

    Edward Bliss Reed.
    New Haven Conn. March 17, 1922
    Published: The New York Times April 16, 1922
     
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  12. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #72
    The Arabs have plenty of land and the Jewish homeland is just a small piece.

    [​IMG]
     
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    #73
    and how big is North America ? and there are plenty of free resources and areas

    isreal 7,992 sq mi
    Alaska 656,425 square miles

    since you are so in love with em, so why not move em over to the land of opportunists


    If Bill gates is a billionaire than it does not mean that it is OK to rob him off 100 million Dollars
     
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  14. imad

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    #74
    lol Bogart, that was the map of Muslim world not Arabs, but regardless..

    Muslim world does not have to pay kosher tax, US does, so as new said, give them your smallest state, it will be much better than this dot that is all surrounded by terrorists.

    oh by the way, how come this promised land for chosen people? chosen people deserve a chosen place, not this!

    it is either they are not chosen people, or this is not the promised land.

    tell me Hawaii is the promised land, I will tell you yeah, OK, it makes sense, but this?!!
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #75
    The Arab Countries stole the land from the Jews and expelled them.

    One million Jews were expelled from Arab Countries 1945-2008. Jewish-owned real-estate left behind in Arab lands totals 100,000 square kilometers (four times the size of the state of Israel.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands

    Jews expelled from Arab Countries

    Aden 8,000
    Algeria 140,000
    Bahrain 550
    Egypt 80,000
    Iraq 140,000
    Lebanon 20,000
    Lybia 38,000
    Morocco 265,000
    Syria 30,000
    Tunisia 105,000
    Yemen 55.000
    Afghanistan 5,000
    Iran 110,000
    Pakistan 2,000
    Turkey 50,000
     
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    #76
    do you remember this post bogart?

     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #77
    Facts don't change.

    The Arabs are crying that the Jews stole the land, but in reality, it's the Arabs that are stealing the land from the Jews and trying to drive them out of the Middle East.

     
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  18. imad

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    #78

    you said that already, but Jews who been in Arabian lands, say else, whom to believe more, you? or a Jew who actually been in an Arabian land and later went to the newly established illegal state of Israel?

    by the way, wikipedia is not a good source as it's co-founder said:

     
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    #79
    It is sad that many edits are malicious but on the whole they have quality content, probably on the more neutral subjects.

    Web masters, have spammed it, people in general who might want to 'protect' or 'portray' their hero in a good light have messed with it etc

    But the worst is flat out propaganda, it's been noted government agencies have made edits from the USA, UK (If I remember correctly) etc.

    I was reading just yesterday about how Zionists were attempting to clean up their history a little (and I found this somehow by Googling Jewish Circumcision for the other thread lol), in fact they even were trying to edit the Rachel Corrie article.
     
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  20. imad

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    #80
    it is indeed very sad, and it is not limited to wikipedia, it's why I always say do not take anybody's word, not even mine, but check by yourself, I just hope if they checked they do not go to wikipedia, it is not hard to get real info, there are books, and historical documents, news achieves and real proofs, that is not hard to access, but it requires little more effort than entering a search query in google and get slapped with a wikipedia article,

    search engines spiders depend on how many keywords, how many links ..etc but they do not spider the accuracy or truthfulness of the info, and in this there is a weak point, because most depend on search engines to get info, so most get an easy access to erroneous data, therefore the majority adopt these erroneous data and start to repeat it, online and offline,

    this is because some think that by repeating a lie 1000 times it becomes the truth, yeah, this may work for a while, but truth is truth and it is stronger, even if slower, propaganda is very fast to spread, and very hard to wipe, still some believe that Palestine was a "land without a people for a people without a land"


    Palestine before 1948
    Palestine Pre-1947
     
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