Scozzafava endorses Democrat in NY-23

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Obamanation, Nov 1, 2009.

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    I suppose its no surprise that a pro Union/Card Check/Abortion/Gay Marriage George Soros funded "Republican" throws her support behind the Democratic candidate after dropping out. This should do wonders to bolster Sarah Palin's stature in the political arena, as she was the first one to call her out and support the Conservative party candidate instead. A bitter sweet day for Democrats? Anything that pumps up Sarah Palin has to be more bitter than sweet I suspect.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1109/Scozzafava_endorses_Democrat_Owens.html
     
    Obamanation, Nov 1, 2009 IP
  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Palin 2012 - it will be the greatest show on Earth. I really hope it happens, I can't wait for the fun. I don't think she will run, but lets hope.
     
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    Title should read, "Scozzafava goes all the way and proves that she was a RINO, there to split Republican votes, until it appeared as if the Democrats would lose."
     
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    Welcome back.. long time no see;)
     
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    The RNC and NRCC wasted $1 million on Scozzafava's campaign.
     
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    Newt is pissed too. She should have not endorsed anyone after taking all that GOP support, or endorsed the GOP candidate. Should make for an interesting election though.
     
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    That's really what you get out of this? Wow. What this is really about is the right wing nutjobs trying to move the Republican party even farther to the right, and Scozzafava being a moderate rational Republican wanting nothing to do with them. If the right wing nuts are successful at kicking all of the moderates out of the Republican party then they'll have the "pure" party that they are looking for... but they'll also be down to 25% of the House & Senate and have no chance at being competitive in Presidential elections.

    Hoffman may still win tomorrow because it's a very Republican district, but this is not a winning strategy for the GOP nationally...

    And yes, I hope that it does "empower" Sarah Palin. Please! Anything that keeps her around is good for the Democratic party. I've got my fingers crossed hoping she runs in 2012, because if she does there's a good shot at what's going on in NY-23 to happen nationally... but of course the national demographics are far different than those in NY-23 and such a scenario would result in a landslide victory for President Obama.
     
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    Scozzafava > Palin

    ?

    Discuss.
     
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    Scozzafava, like Alan Specter, is done. The old saying in politics is "Dance with the one that brung ya". Specter switched parties to try and survive, and it ensured his demise. Palin dug in her heels and is more popular than ever, even though 74% of Democrats and 54% of Republicans feel she isn't qualified to be president.

    Zibblu, as ALWAYS I totally agree with you. Why don't the Republicans get the idea that they would be more viewed as more moderate if they would just openly endorse Abortion, Unions, Socialism, higher taxes, bigger government, man made climate change, while abandoning anyone with religious views? Answer: They just dont get it, and that is exactly why their numbers are down. Becoming more "moderate" is exactly what they need to do.
     
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    Please, elaborate on how that statement makes you feel. I tried to help you with bold.

    Rush Limbaugh is even more popular than her. Can he count on your support for President in 2012?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Those statistics are general statistics and have nothing to do with either the "Far Right" or "Far Left". It is interesting, however, to read your additions as it places you into the category of "Zealot". I think Zealots are a GREAT thing. Zealots from both sides preach an ideology of hate and help people to find the center. Without such examples of extremism, I think our senses would be dulled and people could actually be mired into believing just about anything. In that spirit, its probably a good thing to have a few Tom Metzgers, Rachel Madows, David Dukes, Van Jones, and George B.'s around.

    Regarding Palin, her popularity is probably strongest amongst independents(now over 40% of our voting population). With the outrage over government spending growing on a daily basis, bile thrown at Palin will probably grow that number. Even funnier is all the discussion of "Presidential Candidate" Palin. From the numbers available right now, that will never happen. I say it is funny because all the attention she has been given(good and bad), has turned her into the most valuable publicity machine in the country. She has only to post something on her face book page to make it a national issue. Her attention on NY23 nearly single handedly propelled an independent candidate to victory over both the Democrat and Republican candidates. Had the "Republican" not dropped out, the third party candidate may very well have won, according to polling data. The 2012 elections will likely make her a very wealthy woman.
     
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    I'm not even remotely close to being a zealot. We all have ideologies. Mine happens to be progressive. But I don't blindly follow it to the point where I'll strive for progress no matter the route we take to get there.

    But I suppose I'm wasting my time. It's fairly obvious that it is easier for you to interject a subject changer at this point. So good for you lil fella.

    But allow me to force you to actually think your silliness through to an end with a few simple questions..... Would you agree that a zealot would be someone who was in this forum trying to defend the death panel rhetoric, or maybe someone who attended a tea party rally? Maybe someone who is so far gone that they believe in their heart that President Obama was born in Kenya? For your homework I'd like you to think about that for a while and see if that helps you define zealot in your mind. Then go back and look at what you said in my quote above.

    Please, I know you're the forum clown and struggle when you take the clown nose off and try to have a real debate, but zealot? You really want to go there considering where the conservative movement is heading?

    *sigh* I guess if being opposed to those crazies makes me a zealot then so be it :(

    A value clearly demonstrated in NY 23, correct? Those Independents really came out to put your candidate under the top! :) She was there for your biggest loss in 2008 and with any luck, and if we keep boosting her up, she'll be there looking for that nomination in 2012 and be the huge distraction we are all hoping she can be!

    And of course it's funny. It's Sarah Palin! We keep bringing her up because the idea of her being taken seriously and the mentality it takes to take her seriously is hilarious. That's the joke! :D

    You're welcome.

    Or she single handedly proved that conservative purist ideology won't be winning any elections any time soon. No matter who endorses it.

    I'm having a really hard time following (or believing) your polling data claim. You're trying to get me to believe that had the real Republican NOT dropped out but instead stayed in, split the vote, and got even MORE of the vote than she did while not even in the running that would have helped the conservative?

    How did her dropping out of the race under the ginormous pressure of a Palin endorsement of her opponent hurt the conservative?
     
    GeorgeB., Nov 10, 2009 IP