Why is Rep Still Anonymous?

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by GeorgeB., Oct 30, 2009.

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  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #41
    Sorry you are misinformed. Mods can only see who left their rep and not others. They can't even see the comment forget knowing who gave it.

    And well even if you can take screenshots and all, it's not moderated.

    Whoa!
     
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    Helvetii, Oct 30, 2009 IP
  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #42
    Here is an example of where I think it is necessary. There are some people on the legal forum who think it is okay to answer people's request for legal advice with guesses that are not only wrong but legally putting the OP at more risk. Usually, I comment directly in the forum. Sometimes these people insist on offering their guesses repeatedly even in the face of clear evidence they are wrong. Those people, in my mind, need a rep red to dissuade them from continuing to offer poor legal advice.

    I do not think the Mods have any desire to evaluate people's reply in the legal thread. I consider it an honor to waste a -1 to help keep the legal section from becoming a cesspool of bad advice.

    This is just to answer your question of where I think an anon red rep is not only permissible but something we should all want. They can probably guess who gave them the red rep since it pretty much matches my thread comments which went unheeded. I want their focus to be on the rep message not on trying to retaliate against me.

    Does that make any sense to you?
     
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    buffalo Illustrious Member

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    #43
    D) We would tell you that rep is an unmoderated area and there is nothing that we can be done about it.

    We can't and don't want to see who is leaving what reps for others. Reps is an area that we should not have to moderate. If Shawn sets it up so that people can see who is leaving reps, then maybe people will behave themselves a little bit more.
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #44
    Or rep will become even more useless than before and more on par with the problems with iTrader where people are afraid to leave legitimate negative feedback and everything gets skewed towards the positive (not that we don't already have that with buddies repping each other and the crazy rep gang bullshit as it is). Rep points should mean more than having a pretty green bar on your posts. It's barely more than that now, and taking away anonymity would make it worse, not better.
     
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  5. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #45
    Interesting, I did not know that. I thought I once got an infraction for a rep. I must have been mistaken.

    Sure sounded like it made sense. :)
     
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  6. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #46
    Seriously If I want to give red to someone then I wouldn't care if they gimme back. The thing with itraders is that they are public and even one negative would screw things up.

    My first choice would still be removal of rep system. Then No need for debate.
     
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  7. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #47
    I respectfully disagree. I think they'll be more inclined to not say it at all.

    Look the point I'm making over and over again is that these people are cowards and only doing it because the opportunity is there.

    It's a chink in DPs armor. A loophole that allows them to not only say whatever they feel like saying in an un-moderated area but (and this is the important part) also reduce member's rep points in the process.

    People make disagreeable comments all the time. The people that are giving anonymous red rep are doing so via the rep system because they know no one would care otherwise.... AND they can do it anonymously.

    So I doubt making rep non-anonymous would result in a flood of those comments onto the regular DP forums. They're not doing it now and they're only doing it in rep because they can.
     
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    Digital_shubhi Illustrious Member

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    #48
    I agree with you ! :)
    I like the way it is right now. :) And its going on nicely from the beginning.

    - Digital -
     
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  9. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #49
    So we are back the my original comment... the real purpose of this is to suppress people from disagreeing with you.
     
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    theapparatus Peon

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    #50
    Um, actually the FAQ says that mods can't see rep.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/faq.php?faq=policies#faq_reputation_editing

     
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    #51
    May I add something?

     
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    sawz Prominent Member

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    #53
    I always say if you don't like the reputation comments, then minimize them...out of sight, out of mind. I've got better things to do than super-analyze why others are critical of my comments, whether they know if I see who they are or not.

    I'd prefer to see the "thanks" plug-in, that way everyone can leave their happy, candy-coated appreciation for others. I also want my username to be in glitter, and I want the A-Team theme song to play every time someone reads my comments, but I'm a wishful thinker.
     
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    #54
    No, I think we're back to the original misunderstanding.

    First, you don't post in the P&R section if you have a problem with people disagreeing with you. :D

    But seriously, it's not about people with genuine legitimate beefs leaving red rep. The word we've been dancing around in this thread is "abuse". People are abusing the rep system as I and even a mod or 2 in this thread have stated. And it's abuse that can be easily fixed.

    If someone wants to disagree with me, again, isn't that what the forums are for? Why shouldn't their name be attached to it whether they post it in the forums or via the rep system?
     
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  15. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #55
    This whole thread says otherwise, doesn't it? :) Clearly you have a problem with people disagreeing with you when you don't know who it is.

    There is nothing about forums that says everything should be 100% transparent...

    Do you also think you should know the IP address that every post was made by, every user's registered email address and every user's infraction history?
     
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    #56
    A fair point except, they're not abusing the system because we can't see their IP or infractions.

    We need to use real and practical analogies. Because frankly the 2 screenshots I've posted in the thread aren't at all examples of people merely "disagreeing" with me.

    Would you agree?
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #57
    No, that would be a violation of privacy just like this is "unmoderated" harassment.
    [​IMG]


    If you wish to keep it anonymous then it should be moderated.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #58
    Huh? Please explain how anonymous rep is a violation of privacy by any stretch? I would say if anything, making it non-anonymous is more a violation of privacy.
     
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  19. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #59
    I think he was saying if you released the IPs and emails - that would be a violation of privacy.
     
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    #60
    Sorry if you misunderstood, I meant this (quote below) to be violation of privacy.


    And this to be harassment:

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