Suggestion Ignore posts by country of writer

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by DubDubDubDot, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. EvcRo

    EvcRo Notable Member

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    #21
    Yep different options to build on but not because of IQ or knowledge or education, only just because of the place of birth.

    Anyway, this suggestion looks very stupid.

    What could be done though is to forbid new members to make posts with under 30-40 words, at least if they say something stupid (which they usually do at least make them suffer by typing long :D)
     
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  2. Love*

    Love* Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Then everyone else would have to suffer reading something stupid, & this time it's longer. :p
     
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  3. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #23
    Actually it's not a bad suggestion at all. A lot of people here lie about where they're from, especially writers for example (claiming to be native speakers of a language when they obviously aren't, they lie to try to land gigs). There are very legitimate reasons for wanting to weed people out by location when doing business (such as making sure the writer can be held legally responsible for copyright violations if they provide work that's illegal in the buyer's home country, or making sure the person you hire is in a location where they can be held to certain contract laws). While I think it's a bit silly to do that for conversations (although I do understand the temptation sometimes), an option like that would make it much easier to find reputable people to do business with. If you want someone in a certain area for legal reasons, it would make it much easier to weed out the frauds lying for gigs, whether you specifically want someone in the US or you're intentionally looking for outsourced labor in another country (again using writing as an example, a US company might specifically look for an Indian writer to write authoritatively about their perspective on US companies outsourcing to India). It makes a lot of sense, and it's a shame we don't have the option.
     
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  4. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #24
    I can see the merit of knowing where they are for business reasons, but just a blanket filtering of every post in every section based on the country is not a good idea imo. We *can* auto-detect where someone is from with 99.9% accuracy by geotargetting their IP address (that's how we get this page generated).

    The problem is once you start "officially" verifying countries of people based on IP address, you will just have people using proxies or friends in other countries to do the verification for them. Ideally I would love to be able to phone verify everyone with no cost to the end user, but unfortunately that's not practical from a cost standpoint.
     
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  5. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #25
    ^^ A better idea could be to allow BST access only to members who are phone verified and reduce the phone verification cost. That way you keep a lot of spammer and scammers away and one knows the location of each user, and there can be an option in advanced search to only show posts or exclude posts from a particular country.
     
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    Helvetii, Oct 29, 2009 IP
  6. Bohra

    Bohra Prominent Member

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    #26
    Not a good idea.. maybe u can pay but not every1 can and that would somewhat make dp a paid site which i think shawn doesnt want
     
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  7. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #27
    Or make country filtering available only in BST or even just for premium members as another perk to help them weed out the garbage offers that don't meet their requirements (on a thread by thread basis so they can limit offers they'll get / see by country in one case but not in another where they might not care about location so much). Not even sure if it's a technical possibility though.
     
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  8. Meninblack

    Meninblack Peon

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    #28
    The idea seems very racist..My opinion
     
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  9. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #29
    Racism is based on race, not location. It's geographicist, but not racist.
     
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  10. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #30
    What people don't seem to understand is that prejudice isn't always a bad thing. You're prejudice every time you choose to do business with someone when you look at how many posts they've had, how long they've been a member, how many iTraders they have, how they present themselves in their other posts, what kind of payment options they accept, etc. But they're all a part of doing business responsibly. The same is true of deciding where you want your contractors to come from (because of legal reasons like the ones I've cited). If other countries all protected the buyer's rights equally, it might not be a problem, but that just isn't the case. It's not a matter of insulting anyone based on where they live. It's a matter of bettering the odds of getting what you want, and making sure your business interests are protected. You can't bank on finding the exception to the rule (or you'd be incredibly foolish and waste an awful lot of time if you tried).
     
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  11. alistair80

    alistair80 Well-Known Member

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    #31
    I have to agree with you here. Prejudice is not always racist. And if it is, we all are and have been racist at some point regardless of our color!
     
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  12. mdvasanth86

    mdvasanth86 Notable Member

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    #32



    If that system of filtering users by nation/location is implemented, there will be more new members added to the forum, old members becoming inactive and most new members will be having a static US Ip. :p
     
    mdvasanth86, Oct 29, 2009 IP
  13. Mr. Gill

    Mr. Gill Active Member

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    #33
    Well instead of beating some sense to the asker, you are giving support:eek:

    Clearly he does not like users from some countries and what are the odds if it turned out to be Indians.

    Disappointed in Shawn:(
     
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  14. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #34
    ... and more serious buyers willing to advertise publicly instead of only operating underground via PMs and private deals b/c they're trying to avoid all of the irrelevant / unqualified offers. ;)
     
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  15. DubDubDubDot

    DubDubDubDot Peon

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    #35
    This is the sort of BS I'm talking about.

    It looks like the thread got deleted, but there was a guy a couple days ago claiming to be making $200 per day on a fairly new blog. I was curious, so I read his webmaster blog a bit to get a handle on who this guy was.

    I wasn't impressed with what he had to say and became very skeptical that he could make that kind of money. So I did a whois on his domain and it was a US address, but it was unlikely that he lived there given that he did not have an American name nor was his blog written in good English.

    I then did a Google Earth on the address in the whois, and there is no way someone making the money he claimed would be living in such a crappy house with no landscaping and a burnt up lawn.

    Why is this a problem? Because that thread had a bunch of replies from people patting him on the back for his accomplishment. There is a 100% chance that a number of people are now following the advice given on his blog, and they obviously aren't going to get anywhere.
     
    DubDubDubDot, Oct 30, 2009 IP
  16. Mr. Gill

    Mr. Gill Active Member

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    #36
    Oh my god !
    You are tracking people? Are you The Cable Guy:eek:
     
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  17. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #37
    Yeah, I got a very "stalker" vibe from that post myself.
     
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  18. Love*

    Love* Well-Known Member

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    #38
    You are such a... loser? o.o Dude, you sound like a smart guy, but why waste your time on activities that don't benefit you at all?
    Whatever anyone decides to do online will never be anything personal, & you shouldn't get personal with them either. For you to go all stalker-ish on this loser stranger pretending to be rich online, & for nothing in return but for mere satisfaction, gives everyone the impression that this was nothing but personal. Has this guy done anything to you personally to make this quest worth it? If the answer is no... I suggest you find better things to do online. :)
     
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  19. DubDubDubDot

    DubDubDubDot Peon

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    #39
    lol It's not stalkerish.

    Wake up people.

    He claimed to be making $200 a day from one blog. This is how these idiots build traffic to their "marketing guru" blogs where they pretend to not live in a ghetto and pretend to have great advice to share. A lot of people buy into it and it just dumbs everything down.

    The worse offenders are always from the same region.
     
    DubDubDubDot, Oct 30, 2009 IP
  20. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #40
    A claim sounded bogus, and you decided not to do business with the guy. Good business decision. Those who buy into it will learn the hard way -- that's life. But taking it far beyond that is definitely kind of stalkerish -- especially when you're looking at their house online and then posting about it on a forum.
     
    jhmattern, Oct 30, 2009 IP