Google Analytic can Penalize Our site

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by setr84, Oct 27, 2009.

  1. #1
    Well guys i have a Question for all You there That Should it effect OUR sites to use Google Products Like Google Analytic and many more.Can some buddy explain.
    I highly doubt Google penalizes you for using their tools. I would think it would be the other way around. Unless someone has something to hide of course.
     
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  2. hotalexa

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    If you play with analytiks setting a lot it might happen.
     
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  3. iNET SEO

    iNET SEO Active Member

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    We use it a lot at work, and I mean all the time doing reports etc. and have been doing for over a year now and it has never made any difference - all it has done is allow us to see how our site is doing and now over 550,000 uniques per month!
     
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    #4
    Never heard a case if somebody ever had banned just by using Google tools. Tricking with Adsense may lead to this situation.
     
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    archgames.net Well-Known Member

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    You wont,

    People working with Search dont use any data from Analytics or Adsense. Its like 2 different companies
     
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  6. rootbinbash

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    This is impossible.
     
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  7. sharma

    sharma Active Member

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    I doubt that using tools will penalize the site, there might be other reasons for penalization or may be the competitors improved faster than you did over a short period of time and that made your rankings drop.
     
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    How very naive, why do you think google make this amazing analytics product and give it away for free? And then host all that data....it costs them a lot of money so they are getting something from it!

    I don't use analytics on my sites and to be honest I think that bad stats may (or may soon) effect rankings a little bit or even a lot. Especially if you have high bounce rates or something else negative...after all they want the best experience for their user.

    Just my two cents though, nobody knows for sure.
     
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  9. BCECredit.Com

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    Hello,

    I have been in this business for around four years and in my experience have never had a problem. Why would Google make a product that penalizes your site. In fact many pros use this because it provides accurate data that comes straight from the source.

    This tool is a great way to find where to improve your site, and that indeed is what it is therefore. If you choos not to use it because of a conspircy theory or for the reason that Google bans your site for bad ratings you would be mistaken.

    Think of it like this, you are in college and you don't do the homework because you think that the teacher will take off points on your final exam for doing bad on the homework. It is complete nonsense.

    But that is just my opinion.

    Thanks,
    Nick
     
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  10. Seth W

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    Using Google's products definitely does not get you banned. Misusing their products might though.
     
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    How can Google survive if they ban us for using their products.
     
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  12. Elmo

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    Accurate and straight from the source? lol wrong.

    Your server logs are accurate and straight from the source, millions of people block analytics with their HOSTS file and Firefox addons including myself. I go all over your site and you don't have a clue.

    Why would anyone want to use some advertising company who has the ability to kill your site instead of more accurate data that you already have? People are lazy and have no sense i guess.

    Wouldn't catch me using Analytics that's for sure.
     
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    There might some other reason for that, playing with the tools cant let this happen
     
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  14. BCECredit.Com

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    Hello,

    Google analytics is a tool used to help find areas of your site on which you can improve. I agree that it would give Google as a company the ability to access more of your sites information, but if your using white hat SEO methods you should have nothing to worry about.

    As for your server logs, I do not know what kind a small business you have worked with but when you are managing 10 clients at a time, as well as 5 managers who are also working with 10 clients a piece it is incredibly inefficient to browse each websites server logs. The bottom line is you would be wasting a ridiculous amount of time that could be put to good use.

    So therefore I wouldn't call it lazy, I would call it being smart. But obviously you haven't had too many clients in your day and know you might have some insight into why that is so.

    Regards,
    Nick
     
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  15. Elmo

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    Obviously you don't know there is no need to sift through raw logs, there's scripts now which present the data with pretty graphs in real time where ever you want to view them.

    But i guess Google Analytics is ok for "SEO Companies" with not enough resources or expertise to implement such a thing.
     
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    It's not a question of the ""SEO Companies"" having the resources or expertise - when you're working on the site of a high street brand name or International company,nine times out of ten, everything you recommend has to go through a series of committees before anything gets done. Putting Google Analytics tags on the site is one of the things they can without too much fuss and disruption, (and with fewer ways of getting it wrong that WebTrends or Omniture.)
     
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  17. BCECredit.Com

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    Yea, let's use a low jack unreliable script that was made by some programmer off the street, instead of a simple program created by one of the most profitble companies in world history.

    Yes clearly you must be an expert. I feel sorry for your clients.

    Thank You, finally someone understands that this guy is out of his mind.
     
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  18. Elmo

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    The companies i've worked for would prefer to keep their data, that earns them millions in-house.

    These "low-jack" unreliable scripts make the data in Google Analytics look plain silly not to mention they are more accurate. As i've said, i go all over your site and Analytics doesn't even know i've been there.

    But.. If Analytics is the best thing you've ever seen i guess you don't have much option do you.
     
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    Elmo, relax. You probably don't know as much as you think you do...

    Every company is a little different when it comes to tracking data, and if the company uses analytics, more power to 'em. There are other ways to track user and visitor data, but some companies just choose to go with what they know.

    If you have hundreds of thousands of visitors, you don't need to know exactly what every single visitor is doing, you just need a way to find out how the masses are maneuvering through your site, where they leave, where they come in, and so on. So, if one dude disables js and the analytics pixel doesn't load, who cares?

    Try to understand that there's no "right way" to track data. There are easy solutions for newb webmasters, and there are in-depth solutions for experienced webmasters. I work with a company who uses analytics, and they get over 100k visitors per day on a bad day.

    Plus, analytics kicks butt, so if you are saying it's a lackluster product, you obviously don't know how to use it correctly.
     
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    google analytics is not penalize your site, its help u out to know statistic
     
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