Questions Muslims don't like to answer

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by DiscussionPeace, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #41
    Oh. I am happy to see the person who insulted is DEAD now.

    Digitalpoint is a real quality community. :)
     
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  2. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #42
    It's called relief of tension in light of Muslims trashing the world as much as they please.
     
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  3. KIbeth

    KIbeth Active Member

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    #43
    Ungh, this is a webmaster forum! Im pretty sure racism and mass flaming of culture is on the no-no list. Just smile and nod, this thread is classed "dumbass".
     
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  4. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #44
    I agree .............
     
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  5. hsaleem

    hsaleem Rocket!

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    #45
    Almost every non-muslim here has got so much against Islam and Muslims but still all the muslims are together and are giving the same message that Islam is the religion of Peace. We have provided convincing answers to all the challenging questions posed by non-mulsims.

    When non-muslims (I would especially like to mention Indian non-mulsims here) don't find the answer, they start showing up with crap but I am thankful to DP that it has been awarded and dealt with accordingly
    I would liek to end this up by quoting two verses from the Qur'an

    1:- Come to common terms as between us and you
    (This is the only way we can acheive universal brotherhood today)

    2:- Let there be no compulsion in the religion, truth stands out clear from error
     
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  6. Danny

    Danny Active Member

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    #46
    FFS at the root of it judaism, Muslim and Christian religions are exactly the same bloody thing! You believe in the same god you just base your religions around slightly different concepts of that god.

    Its fine to have a religion and be passionate about it but at the end of the day just deal with it dont force it on anyone else.

    I still love this question

    "If man was created in Gods image, and we have so many people of different colours, cultures and behaviours, what colour is God?"
     
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  7. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #47
    Who knows...interesting fact, is god wrote his name like such:

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Danny

    Danny Active Member

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    #48
    Rick at least you grasped the concept. Just wait until some of the christians, well christian creationists grasp part of the concept. That God may not be a white male, that god may be of arabic descent or appearance!

    Then when they dig deeper do they see the thousands upon thousands of loopholes in it!

    And Michael. What proof do you have that "God" wrote his name like that? is there a signature of his somewhere on earth like an artist signs their work?

    Finally as famously said
    "Did god make us after we made him?"
     
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  9. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #49
    Why the racism?

    what does color have to do with the human race as a whole?

    This is what gets me in these discussions, if you don't like something in America or something is against muhamad, you think a Christian is behind it. Not all Americans are Christian and American values have moved far from Christian in the last 50 years, so not everything is Christian.

    Now, why do you say Christian friend in your post - is the image from a Christian friend or just someone living in the USA?

    Personally I find the comic offensive, but because of the content and not the people involved.
     
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  10. Rick_Michael

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    #50
    I don't know any christians that think god is a particular race. Maybe I just don't know the ones you know.


    I'm not religious perse, I speak of it in terms of an equalize view between the religions...whom all recognize Moses and his story. Review the old testment, he reveals him name to Moses.
     
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  11. Danny

    Danny Active Member

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    #51
    ummm debunked. You have completely and utterly missed the point.

    This has nothing to do with racism at all.

    It is in regards to Christian Creationism!

    Think about it champ! With a name like debunked I would have thought you might have seen this on more than a surface level
     
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  12. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #52
    Again you make no sense.... in regards to creationism? What are you trying to figure out? How there are so many colors of skin? (please don't tell me that you can't figure out how come skin color varies- let me see - mario bros movie shows different skin from different ancestorial animals. LOL)
     
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  13. Danny

    Danny Active Member

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    #53
    and there I was thinking you might be one of the first to grasp the concept :(

    creationism states quite clearly that

    "God created man in his image"

    if so, why does
    a) everyone look different
    b) we have individualism & personalities

    Starting to get it yet?
     
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  14. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #54
    You just don't get it do you...

    Nobody said God made clones. LOL are you a friend of YoYo's by chance?

    If you thought your argument has any merit, than you would have to say the same thing to an evolutionist, unless you believe some people are from ape and some from dinosaurs and some from birds and maybe an alien or 2 and now you get different colors.
     
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  15. Danny

    Danny Active Member

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    #55
    oh dear lord. Mario brothers is such a factual and well researched cite as well!

    can you tell me what creationism is then, if it is not the exact belief that the bibles view of how man and the heavens were created?

    There is no room for deviation I am afraid

    In fact "Created in Gods image" represents that exactly. You can not create someone in your own image and likeness and have them any different, otherwise they are not in your image are they?

    Because no where in the SCIENTIFIC theory of evolution does anyone say that anything was created in the exact likeness. That is the point of evolution, adaptation!
     
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  16. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #56
    You still make no sense.

    Mario bros thing is a joke BTW. oy-vey

    Your post only seems to be an attempt at a leading question, but with a misconception of what the Bible says. Try again when you have a better understanding, don't go to your professor though, he may be just telling you what he heard someone else said about the Bible and you won't get any real info that way. (And don't go to YoYo he is clueless)

    Sorry you wrote again while I was replying.

    NO it doesn't in fact represent cloning. God made Adam (man) in his image. He also made eve and they reproduced with the DNA that was part of them. Adaption is part of man, but not morphing into other creatures. Man got darker skin in areas of need and lighter skin in areas of lesser need combined with having defects and deteriation at times, we see different variations of people.

    Again, leading question without proper knowledge. I think I will leave you alone, since I feel this will be a waste of time to explain something when you 'think' you know what 'creationists' believe.
     
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  17. Rick_Michael

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    #57
    Creationism...lmao. You speak of that word as though it's the religion that enspouses it.

    Does his image have to look like some person in particular? According to the trinity concept, a holy spirit is one with god....as is Jesus...so the image of god according to Christianity is far more complex than simply asserted logic.

    Can you grasp the three-different things as one: father, son, and whole spirit?

    It's an 'I don't know' kind of thing, and beyond human reason. At best it's an arguement with oneself.
     
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  18. farooqaaa

    farooqaaa Well-Known Member

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    #58
    Really interesting thread :).
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #59
    What was your question? Other than that last line, the only other question you have posed is:

    Or did u hide the following ayas for some bad intention?????

    You are using the Shakir translation of the quran to quote from. Let's follow this particular translation to some other verses:

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html

    005.051 - 52
    SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    SHAKIR: But you will see those in whose hearts is a disease hastening towards them, saying: We fear lest a calamity should befall us; but it may be that Allah will bring the victory or a punish ment from Himself, so that they shall be regretting on account of what they hid in their souls.

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html

    009.005
    YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

    009.006
    SHAKIR: And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.

    009.029 - 30
    SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

    009.033
    SHAKIR: He it is Who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse. (ya think?)

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html

    008.012 - 14
    SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

    SHAKIR: This is because they acted adversely to Allah and His Messenger; and whoever acts adversely to Allah and His Messenger-- then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil).

    SHAKIR: This-- taste it, and (know) that for the unbelievers is the chastisement of fire.

    Let's take this last line, as it's important to what Arasp has asserted, which I believe is false. If, by *his* definition only, unbelievers are not Jews or Christians or others who do not believe in *a* God, but those who do not believe in *any* God, then muslims believe that Christians and Jews will go to heaven. And if such is true, then why would muslims around the world chose to fight and kill Christians and Jews (Darfur ring a bell?) who muslims believe will go to heaven? Why would Christians and Jews, under islamic law and the quran, be required to pay an infidel tax (jizyah) for being inferior to muslims?

    The two do not mesh together. To assert that the *unbelievers* are only those who do not believe in God (neither applies to Christians or Jews), lest muslims believe Jews and Christians are going to heaven as well.

    Either way, there seems to be an admission by silence, as Lorien noted, that it's ok to kill *unbelievers* (in this case, which is not true, those that do not believe in God - Atheists).
     
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  20. GeorgeB.

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    #60
    Ahhh religion... so peaceful :)
     
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