Question for Atheists ( Who doesnt believe to existence of God)

Maybe you should tell him that

 

Its not Him who is losing, its You

 

Funny. chistians, hindus and every other cult would tell you the same thing.

Strange, isn't it, that you so freely regect all other bollocks but think we should treat your particular brand of "complete shit" differently... double standard much?

At least your god and thier gods have something in common, they are all inept, needy egomaniacs who care only about the level of devotion they recieve. I can picture him now, crying his eyes out because not everyone loves him, while being completely unable to convince us that he even exists. What a fragile, needy, incompetant god you have.

 

I concur...well said

 

LOL, you make a mockery of your own religion. What hath become of Islam when people like new and polite teen are its intellectual backbone?

 

I believe in god but not in religion.

 

rep added for your thought, hhhhmmmm

 

As I said many times already, this is a ridiculous statement.
God is religion, religion is God.
Believing in god but not in a religion means practically nothing.

Atheists who just don't want to admit that they are atheist say this normally.
Unfortunately, in this idiotic world being a "man of faith" (=person who believe in ridiculous stuff along with a billion others with no evidence or reason), if for some reason considered to be a respectful thing, so even politicians who don't believe in anything will claim to be "men of faith".

Danielregwan: What does it mean that you "believe in god", but not follow any code or discipline of an organized religion? to stress my question, how would your life then be different if you didn't believe in god? oh, it will not change at all? that's what I thought. Welcome to the Atheist club.

In 300 years, where humanity will live on another planet and god will be spoken of with the same seriousness as demons are ghosts are spoken today......, your grand grand grand son will be glad to brag about his grand grand grand parent and say: "he was not a moron like many of the people of his time, he did not believe in any of this crap "

 

A man who believes in himself doesn't need your so called god.Only insecurities lead to believe in others or god(As you say).

Don't practice your religion just because your parents have done or your ancestors.Why don't you think?

Answer this question - What is god?

 

When Jesus preached to people he said to follow him not to create Christianity with him. Man created religion.

or God through man created religion. But could you believe in God without religion? yes you could believe there is a God. Could you follow God without religion? hhhhhmmmmmm

 

What scientists found till now is NOTHING comparing to existent and even non-existent(we have no idea where the universe and all the existence end and non-existent starts. If there is a non-existence we can realize.)

I am not believing in NOTHING which is going to be always NOTHING. I will keep believing in God till someone explain me things we have never seen an example of it and I get answers to my all of those questions. This is not possible because people brain think with examples(You cant describe white to a blind). While even human kind is so stupid I don't believe that the existence has been created by some endless amount of reactions, maybe some co-incidents, etc etc etc... Atheism doesn't have more solid proof than some religions do.

 

Why can't god just be a higher being who has no tie to a specific religion?

Google "Define:God" definition:

Definitions of god on the Web:

• "the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe"


Nowhere in that definition does it say "RELIGION" or any of that crap. I've seen your other posts where you illogically try to tie god with religion. Research the difference between agnosticism and atheism and you'll see that there is a difference.

 

But you have to agree that if all people on earth throughout all of history were exactly with that attitute of yours, waiting till someone explains them..........
you would have be now living in a cave with a witch doctor singing spells and trying to get the demons out of your belly.

Because:
Believing in god but not in a religion means practically nothing
as said in the post you quoted.

 

Umm..your argument is probably the least substantial one I've ever come across.

That's solely an OPINION and that is LAME.

"Means practically nothing..." to YOU! Now, follow that up with some support from a meaningful source and then your logic of "God = Religion and Religion = God" may have truth to it. Until then, I'd resist from posting that around any forum so as to not seem like a close-minded dimwit..unless you are.

 

An opinion is never Lame. Without opinions ideas and thought, humanity would not have moved forward.

Although I am ceratin that you are SURE that what you are saying makes a LOT of sense... I will try to talk you out of it. And I even save the personal insults out. hmmm... how to make a complicated thing simple...I will tackle it from two independent approaches, totally independent angles:

(1)

to me it means nothing.
to you it means X
to your neighbor it means Y
Hence if we all sit on the table and talk about "god", each will be talking on something different ---> according to the definition of the word "word" which necessarily has to have a "meaning" shared by all persons: god has no meaning.
Only if we all speak about exactly the same "god" (as in organized religion), it has a meaning.

(2)
Believing in a god not as a part of organized religion has a name. Its a close cousin of "Theism", called Deism. Even deism, believing in god not as a part of organized religion, is a religious belief. Religion, but not "organized religion".

 

Lol you understood my post wrong; I don't mean than an opinion is lame...I mean, an opinion as support for a firm argument is LAME because arguments, as taught by debaters, need to be supported with facts.

Anyways, you say deism is a religious belief..well, so is atheism, because you believe in the lack of religion. Deism, on the link you provided, is defined as "Deism is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for either faith or organized religion."


The point I'm making is that you can believe in a god without having to believe in a religion. You won't change my mind because I haven't stated whether I'm agnostic, atheist, catholic, etc..and considering you have yet to provide some substantial support without targeting RELIGION in general, you won't succeed.


Good try though

 

you bolded the wrong part of the definition of deism...
Deism is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for either faith or organized religion

Believing in god without an organized religion, is a different kind of religious belief, or a religion. Classified as Deism. God = Religion.
Atheism is not a religious belief. No God = No Religion.

That's just how these terms are defined, when they are spoken about between the walls of the academy. no big deal. hope I didn't confuse you too much. you can continue believe in anything you want and define it as you want as long as it makes sense to you

 

Personally to even consider there was a God I would need these things:

1. An answer as to why bad things happen to good people. (Don't tell me this is a test of faith, I am also including things such as child abuse and infants who are stuck with a lifelong disease from birth, such as juvenile diabetes where they are forced to inject themselves several times a day for the rest of their lives.)

2. Proof that the bible does not encourage homophobia or sexism. (To believe in God I would have to join a church in order to learn more about him, however currently I am most uncomfortable around religious people as homophobia in particular disgusts me.)

3. To see some kind of justice done to the evil doers in the world, as well as some good come to good people - the three worst people I have ever encountered have the easiest and most stress free lives, while the three best people I have ever met struggle the most and are sad living under constant stress.

There are more, but those are the key three.

 

So it says you can be religious without religion

With Deism God does not equal religion

 

There are some people who like to disbelieve in the rights of others as you like to disbelieve in God.

Why should they believe what you believe? they want to believe in nothing.
They want to do what they wish.

Freedom.

Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him and his family, said that the most stressed person on Earth is among the people of Paradise.

The sinners will go to Hell, so you should feel sorry for them rather than feeling they are great and free.