New Turkish TV series: IDF murdering children

We must show the truth and eliminate lies and their generators.

Evil has no right to try to block us, but we have the right to block and eliminate the evil.

We will judge the war criminals zionists as Saddam was judged and we will put them to death as Saddam was put to death.

What do you think about such freedom? cool yes? it is loyal to Justice, so it must be a good freedom.

 

Typical Chaos, this is the general attitude of most Israelis, they know very well about how criminal they are, but they always deny and try to accuse others of lying and faking, when they know too very well that they are the most who use such method, proof of that is when I showed these pictures to another Israeli here, Lemon, he said they are fake,

Mahmoud Salah was a suicide bomber? and Israel arrested him after his 4th suicide bombing, right? he was not carrying any explosive belt, he did not carry any kind of weapon not even a knife, besides why did they let his friend go, wasn't he supposed to be a partner?

he was walking in street with his friend, there are some other pictures, where it shows IOF shooting in air to scare people away, because they knew what they were going to do,

read it on BBC:


Israeli police are first pictured arresting 23-year-old suspected suicide bomber Mahmud Salah (centre) and another man


Salah - who was on a bombing mission for the militant al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade - is brought to the ground by a police


This photo appears to belie an official statement saying police only opened fire when Salah refused to remove his overcoat


A robot device then removed what was described as Salah's explosives belt

source

Notice the lies? refused to remove his overcoat?

carrying explosive belt and loosing a chance to explode it with that Jeep and soldiers? I do not think so.

 

You would know.

The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.

 

So you choose to believe the official Israeli story that he was a terrorist carrying an explosive belt, and that he refused to remove his overcoat?

or every Palestinian under occupation for you is a terrorist?

 

Imad, I don't give a shit about that dead guy. Why would I waste my time?

But, if you ask me am I going to believe Israel over Hamas, yes, 100% of the time. I have zero faith in the honesty of the terrorist group Hamas. If you ask me will I believe you or chaos, it will be chaos 100% of the time, because he is capable of logic and not just religious hatred like you spew here daily, because he has the capacity to cite faults in his own government - something you and new and polite teen will NEVER do. You will never condemn the horrific deeds done in your name, in the name of Allah, in the name of the Palestinian people.

You have not earned any benefit of the doubt, just as the lying scumbags of Hamas have not earned any benefit of doubt.

p.s. I got tired of pretending to have a discussion with Islamic terrorist supporting members of DP. I am going to call you and your ilk exactly what you are. Don't like it? Too damn bad, bitch to Allah, or whomever, but don't cry to me, I don't care. My sympathies are with the innocent Israelis and Palestinians who pay the price for Islamic Jihad Couch Warriors like you who don't give a shit about the Palestinian people but just want Jews and Israel driven into the sea.

 

Thank you for showing how your logic works, according to you:

If Chaos showed these pictures, and said they are real, and Imad said they are fake, you will believe Chaos and go cry saying "Imad says they are fake!"

If Imad showed these pictures and said they are real, and Chaos said they are fake, you will believe Chaos and go cry saying "Imad says they are real!"

can't say more, except I do respect your freedom to be dumb.

 

It is no surprise that is what you think I said. Oh well.

 

You said what means you believe somebody over somebody, didn't you?

 

imad, I posted it again for you so you can try to comprehend the issue. I am not literally saying that any word out of your mouth is a lie. I am saying I don't trust you any more than I trust the lying terrorist scumbags of Hamas.

 

That's better, I do not want you to trust me, I m asking about your comment in which you said the guy was a terrorist, I also know already that you do not care about the dead guy, you expressed it earlier in this thread when you also said you do not care about the murdered kids,

you have seen the pictures, yet you said he was a terrorist, based on what exactly?

 

I never called that guy a terrorist, but reading comprehension and honesty are not really your strong suits are they?

I merely said that the only good terrorist is a dead one.

The fact that governments everywhere have to suspect women and children of being bombs is caused by Hamas and other Islamic terrorist groups using women and children and pathetic coward Hamas members dressed as civilians to kill. Good job Hamas.

 

you quoted me in:

then commented saying:

what does that suppose to mean?

if you comprehended my comment, it is saying that if he was truly a terrorist who was carrying an explosive belt, why didn't he use it when he saw the jeep approaching?

other questions, he was walking with his friend when they arrested BOTH, why did they let his friend go? without at least investigating him?

if we are to believe the Israeli lies that he was a terrorist, then anybody walking with him while he was heading to do a suicide bombing, will be automatically a suspect of conspiring, or maybe providing aid to Salah to do his suicide mission.

even IOF did not say these picture were fake, yet you and Chaos are trying to imply that they are, why? do you hate truth? or do you hate Palestinians? so that you do not care if they got killed, whether they were innocent or not?

they took off all his clothes as the pictures show, except his underwear? was he hiding that explosive belt under his balls?

why did they fire in air?

why did they bring the robot, after they killed him? but when he was alive they were not afraid to approach him? and take off his cloths ..etc

is it possible that he will blow the belt after he been shot dead? or was it to mislead the public and later journalists who will come and check - into thinking that he was carrying explosives?

yet browntwn comes and comment while expressing his joy about the guy murder, by saying, a dead terrorist is a good terrorist,

if you do not think or do not know whether he is a terrorist or not, then you should not try to imply that he is a terrorist, and do not blame Palestinians for his death, IOF stopped him, and he did not resist, IOF searched thoroughly, and he did not resist, he could not even resist, and at the end they shot him

this is not the only incident, there are many others, but this incident been caught by an amateur photographer.

 

I was mocking you. You are telling us what a terrorist would do with his suicide bomb. As if you know how a terrorist thinks and behaves? As if a fucking suicide bomber acts with any logic. Suicide bombers are out to kill himself and innocents, only a fool sees logic in his actions. Please tell us again how he would behave, imad.

**** Well maybe you do know how a terrorist thinks a behaves. ****

Get it now, imad? Probably not.

 

LOL.
I admire you for not giving up on him.
Talking these basic 21th century thinking into Imad is like trying to teach a 4 year old quantum mechanics. At the beginning I also tried but gave up as I saw that he isn't making any progress.... he's stuck at the "good jews are not zionists" stage.... there is no hope in the horizont.

The damage that the religious & autocrat education system has inflicted to him is irreversible. All I need to hope is that his children and grandchildren will have a better chance.

 

Asking me if I got it then answering yourself by saying probably not as a way to end discussion after you diverted it, won't do you any good,

you are discussing an unrelated point, about whether suicide bombers have logic or not, they do have logic even if it was wrong, but this is not the issue here, the issue which you are trying hard to divert is:

was he a suicide bomber or not?

you still assume that he is a suicide bomber, and I asked you based on what?

Got it now?

 

yes, he was, according to the Israeli police.
I would also assume that the yellow stuff near his body are parts of the detonation belt.


With 25% of the Israeli population being Palestinian, shooting Palestinians on the street is just something we don't do Imad. Why him? How many events of such day light shooting "occured" in the past 10 years? 10? 20? why them and not anybody else? What good would it bring to Israel? For every terrorist we kill, 100 are born.

See, this doesn't make sense Imad. Only a person who believes in angels and prophets (=things that make no sense) can also believe that Israel shoots Palestinians in the middle of the street in day light with no reason, just another thing in the long list of things that make no sense..... or that jews have a world organ trading network and that "Palestinians" have 3,000 years of history....

And I will tell you another reason why Israel does not shoot Palestinians in the middle of the streets in broad daylight with no reason:

Because if Israel were shooting Palestinians with no reason in the street, next time the clerics incite to go and throw stones on Israeli policemen in Jerusalem, the demonstrators will piss in their pants from the idea to face the Israeli police, and will stay in home.
You know where such a thing exists and people piss in their pants and never go to demonstrate?

Your guess is correct! Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and this kind of places.
Why in Syria, such a big country which treasures and so many good people they will go to demonstrate against the danish government but never protest against the terrible poverty in which they live in?

I guess you know perfectly good why. Even better than I do.

Glad I could help you think logically.

 

Here is the simple wish I have for imad, new, polite teen.

Whatever it is you wish to happen to the Jews and Israel, may it happen to your own family and country.
(Only you know what is in your heart. I hope it is pure.)




p.s. Personally, I hope the Israelis have the same peace and success that I wish for the Palestinians.

 

Since you volunteered, you might be able to help me understand some of the points mentioned above, try to be specific if you decided to answer them, here are they again:


1- knowing that he been arrested with a friend, why did they release his friend without taking him for investigation for possibly providing aid to Salah?

2- In the first cover up story that been released before the pictures been released - IOF said that they only opened fire when Salah refused to remove his overcoat, why did they lie here if they believe they did nothing wrong?

3- In the second cover up story that been released after the picture been released, IOF said that Salah was trying to blow the belt by rubbing his chest against the ground:

a- why didn't they say so since the beginning? i.e since before they knew about these pictures?

b- knowing that they are in a mission to arrest a potential suicide bomber, wouldn't they be equipped with something that would make him lose conscious instantly, since it would be dangerous to approach him like that while knowing he may be carrying an explosive belt?

instead, they appeared in front of him with their military jeep, approached him with their military uniforms while holding rifles, arrested him, found the belt (as they claim), pushed him to the ground, left him attended with only one soldier, released his friend, kept him for 30 minutes, then they realized it is dangerous and decided to shot him?!

4- also knowing that they are in a mission to arrest a potential suicide bomber who might be carrying a large explosives belt, wouldn't it be dangerous to shake, beat and push him to the ground like that. while he is carrying it?

5- If it is so much dangerous for human beings to approach an explosive belt, therefore a robot should be used, how come they did not find it that much dangerous when Salah was alive?

you assumed that they would not kill him for no reason, I m trying to know the reason, why?

 

I won't be cruel and say that I wish what happened to my family and my country by the Zionists, may it happen to them.

I wish to see an end for the illegal occupation.

 

Imad, I am not an expert on this event. I try not to speak on things I understand nothing about and I leave all options open. Didn't you understand it in my first post?

My arguments were general and not related with a specific event. If in this event he was murdered in cold blood, ok, shit happens. I never said that Israel is an angel. It is you have this "angel muslim" image in your brain. I don't have the "angel jew" image in my brain, I have another kind of TV in my country that tells also when jews are not angels, unlike in your country.
But if there were more than 2 , 5 know what, even 20 other cold blooded murders like this in the whole history, you can't build your political policy based on them. There were no 20,000 or 40,000 Palestinians murdered like this, right? Palestinians send their kids to confront the IDF. right? Are you claiming that they know that the IDF is likely to murder them in cold blood and they send them anyway? if yes, you are not only a jew-hater but also a self-hater. hater of everything.

It works the other way around, you see, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Island see "peace Island massacre". You remember that event? So? What? Is it a reason for not having peace with Jordan? We will talk about who has more killers? both sides has killers. The trick is that the non-killers will join and fight them. We don't talk about these events. We in Israel know that shit happen here and there, and look foward for a better future and not to cry like a baby for 60 years.

You can not fight Israel Imad. You have to live with it and to learn how to get over your victim mentality. In Israel we had that mentality in the 50's. It took us 40 years to get over it. We will wait a couple of more years until the Palestinians stop whining like a bitch and start taking their fate in their hands.

If you wish to see an end for the "illegal occupation" as you call it, starting working in this direction. you have two options:
1) destroy Israel <--- the side that you are now.
2) learn Israel. respect Israel. Try to compromise with Israel.

As 1) is unlikely to happen, you have only one option: 2).
In order to switch sides, you have to make the first step. Accept the maximum that Israel offers. Any day. Any time. The first palestinian leader that will say "yes" to this offer, and the conflict is behind us.
----> 100% of the 1967 territories with no "right of return" to mainland Israel in exchange for a declaration of "end of conflict" from the Palestian side.

Edit:
p.s., regarding "illegal occupation": A very simple question. A very simple answer would be appereciated, "yes" or "no" would be great.
(*) Before 1967, was the West Bank "occupied"?