Advantages: - Dmoz is used by the TOP SearchEngines as an important SEO factor, like Alexa, AOL Search, Excite, Google, Hotbot, Yahoo, Lycos. - You can get some PR if you are listed in a top category. - If get listed, it lets you know that you are very very lucky, you might buy a lottery ticket. Seriously, DMOZ is very important for SEO, but its near impossible to get listed, the system has been corrupted so its very difficult to get your submission accepted or even read by a human.
I'd say based on that last statement that in reality, DMOZ and its own intrinsic value as stated in your first statement is now part of the past.
We list hundreds of sites, can you please offer the evidence you have for saying it is corrupt. Or are you just trying to find an excuse for your site not being listed or perhaps even listable?
Well, lets look... It is nearly impossible to get listed according to many of the threads you find here on DP. For each "HEY I GOT LISTED" post, there are generally three others saying "I suggested my site over a year ago and it's not listed"...so yeah, it's near impossible to get a listing. The system has been corrupted? Originally the suggestion pool worked kind of like a QUEUE and people submitted and editors looked at the submissions. Now you yourself say that many editors do not bother with the pool, and that it's not required to even look at...that means that suggestion a site in some cases is completely pointless... so much for it being an OPEN directory for it's end users. (and again if the end user does not submit sites, the ODP is doing something wrong anyway). In fact, just a few short months ago editors called the suggestion pool a queue, and now the term has been changed... why? To reflect reality! That the site may really never be listed or even looked at. There are sites like ScriptLance that have COMPLETED transactions with POSITIVE feedback for DMOZ listings... this means that those 3rd party sites ARE not only getting sites submitted for a price, but also LISTED! That is a clear violation of the guidelines and certainly hints at corruption. The Topix site has nearly 20,000 listings that were placed within the "largest HUMAN edited directory" by a ROBOT. To top that, the site is listed as an affiliated site by an editor. So much for not giving editor sites preferred treatment, and so much for deeplinks being a rule of thumb... corruption? Maybe not, but it certainly smells like it. Some categories have not been touched in over a year... if there are submissions to those categories, then, erm... its very difficult to get your submission accepted or even read by a human. So please, do tell... how was masize wrong or even misleading?
I can help here take a look at this post I`ve wrote here about one of dmoz listings ... Can you give us some light please what value for the directory have an slashdot org story about an not existent site have ? IF you consider it right to be listed can you point us somewhere on the guidelines where's some explanations ? ... NB . Can you please do not give one more time the '' link rot '' excuse , just because it's pathetic honestly ... from someone who was supposed to be '' trained '' and who passed the editorial acceptance filter's ... it's just an pathetic excuse ... NB.2 . Like this listing on the directory are other hundreds of listings , witch aren't follow any guidelines stuff's ... simply SPAM .
How can you say that it wasn't? My answer is based on YOU calling it a Queue up till a few weeks ago, as well as QUEUE being mentioned several times in the documentation, as well as my time as an editor, and from simply reading about the ODP and directories in general. I'd ask what your version is based on, but you post Anonymously and seeming will bend to the will of the ODP in any way shape or form, as it's clear you of all the posting editors have called it a queue more often then not... then again, you are not really an editor are you?
Interesting, when only a few days ago I told you that we used different terminology to talk about suggestions, because queues seemed to suggest one thing and pools seemed to give a better idea of what is really happening. What you did then was argue with me the meaning of queue, what you do now is have amnesia about those posts. I will try again. Queues suggest an orderly wait to be looked at in turn, some editors do that, some don't. Some use the datestamp, some don't, so instead of suggesting here that it is an orderly wait in line, which sometimes it is not, we use the term 'pool' and suggest we fish in it, sometimes at random, sometimes carefully selecting the sites that have tried to comply with our guidelines sometimes just dumping what is obviously spam or moving what obviously does not fit. Now in your long experience was it a queue, did you treat all your sites in order that they were suggested and did you get to the end of the queue if that is what you thought it was?
In your first post you asked for evidence. Then Qryztufre and trustnobodynever answer your call but you have chosen to ignore them. We have to assume you agree with us regarding DMOZ corruption.
they ignoring me because of my grammar , I don't know why they are ignoring Qryztufre , but with me that's the problem , the grammar , I`m not native english and sometime when I`m writing I can't find perfect way to arrange the words to say correctly what I have to say ... .... funny it's most of the time peoples understand even with a little effort what was the idea lol ... please remember I don't think I`ve said never about someone corruption , all my proves witch I made public till now was just proves of INCOMPETENCE , stupidity and ignorance that have nothing to do with '' corruption '' per se ...
I ignore you because I can't understand many of the things you say, sorry if the forum is in English, I don't try with my poor French in a French forum, they would ignore me. I ignore you because you have said that you post because you have nothing better to do and just want to spend time hitting at DMOZ. But I don't come along and say to you that I don't like your stamp collection, that you have picked the wrong colour stamps, that you have spoiled them by putting glue on the backs. What might be helpful is if I offered to help. It might not be right for many people to become editors, but if you have any interest in the directory and want to improve it, then why not offer help by reporting any sites you find, reports are dealt with if sites are spam, spider food, 404. In fact we have just had a big push on updates and we have virtually cleaned them all out of the directory. Because you don't keep and collect your stamps my way, is that cause for calling you ignorant, incompetent and stupid? Or if I don't want to help in a way that really helps you in your spare time hobby am I at liberty to criticise and call you names?
If I can understand him (even when I'm not native English reader), I just can't believe you can't understand "many of the things" he writes. I think you choose not to understand.
rephrase : When I`m bother to come online and check this forum ( * couple of few others too ) ... I`m do it because I`m bored and I need something fun to do ... I`m posting most of the time on this section of the forum just because I saw here on the past an unbeatable amount of ignorance (* guess from who lol ... ) ... you aren't understand what I`m trying to say ? ... well let's try on short words then ... look here : example: THE DIRECTORY IT'S FULL OF SPAM LINKS Did ya understand it ? great ... now let's move on something more fun then ... who on the name of god added such and so much damn spam links on the directory if the editorial application from normal peoples are automatically rejected ? So .. the editors who got that privilege and offer their '' cough cough '' add spam sites ... who added those editors it's guilty more short words ? SPAM ! do you understand that word ? I`ve reported till now two links one of them was spoke here on DP ... other one on RZ forum , I don't wanna report others ... why ? because you guys don't deserve from your ignorance any help the damn it directory it's full of spam , easy like that to understand ... I don't give a damn about the dmoz directory because peoples who control it are too ignorant . Keeping like years to say on public forums same garbage's over and over like for retards it's not a way to consider yourself '' honest '' and '' human edited '' and '' volunteer's '' you know .. What I can consider to help everyone , editorial staff / webmasters / directory average joe visitors ? an full cleaning , and that's will start with the dinosaur's who control it ... unfortunately I`m not in charge and I have zero interest to help on cleaning it ... why ? just because I was threat like I was on the past when I asked innocently some really quite good answers and I got on face just some BS.
questions sorry . LOL ... the reply when I edited got some words cut from the text , and left the '' answer '' in place of '' questions'' just because I had to delete some other words ... ( * i`m trying myself to avoid to get more infractions & a possible ban lol ... and the words deleted before from that phrase was quite '' ugly '' if you know what I mean .. )
If I agree with you, mind explaining why you (YOU, YES YOU, NOT ANYONE ELSE, YOU) have called it a QUEUE as well, up to a few weeks ago? Go on, call me out on the order I did suggestion pool in... and YES, I did approve them IN ORDER, so YES, it was most certainly a QUEUE to me. But we are not talking about YOU... and the FACT YOU HAVE CALLED IT A QUEUE up till a few weeks ago. So yeah, turn it back on me again... everyone else sees exactly what you are trying to do. You are little more then a troll that posts Anonymously. If you want ANYONE to prove ANYTHING, why don't you step up yourself and give proof you are an editor. You keep going on about my time in the ODP, and I can certainly back up that I was an editor. Can you? I didn't think so... no, you are just a troll that does nothing more then follow me around and disagree with me... even when strangely enough you are saying exactly the same thing I am.
Well, you know he posts Anonymously because he's too afraid of what's out side DMOZ and what's inside too.
Well you have the DMOZ and the Google directory that many believe are authoritative sites. then you have thousands of other sites that download and use DMOZ directory information.