Black Label Ads Low On Inventory?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by shortbusgeek, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. #1
    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed Black Label Ads running low on ad inventory on their sites? While browsing through my site lately I've noticed more and more entire ad spaces will show "Your Ad Here" ads, and sometimes it's every ad zone on that page. I'm trying out JuicyAds at the moment and considering switching to them for those zones leaving only the interstitials at BLA if BLA doesn't have enough inventory. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
     
    shortbusgeek, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  2. GMC

    GMC Member

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    I am about to leave juicy ads

    I have run them alongside BLA for about 6 months now, and I am making a lot more from BLA than I am juicy.

    My site makes about 10.50 a day with BLA and about 1.50 with juicy (these ads show on the same page - Juicy in the better position!)

    I also went the same way as you - though BLA wasnt doing the right thing by me, but I have found Juicy not to be the way for me

    I am looking for another (Thats why I signed in tonight - lol)

    Good luck

    GMC
     
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  3. shortbusgeek

    shortbusgeek Peon

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    Well, BLA seems to be hit or miss to me. Some days it performs really well, but others it just plain sucks. For instance, for the last few days before my original post above, I was making about 10% of my better days take on BLA. Juicy seems to be performing almost as good as my better days on BLA so far.

    Seems that Juicy, at least for me, is at least showing a lot more relevant ads as well. From BLA I tend to notice a LOT of ads targeted towards the gay male niche, but an amateur site such as the one in question probably isn't the best place to advertise for that niche. I also haven't seen any placeholders or blank ad spots from Juicy yet either, which is also a good sign. I really hate seeing a huge spot with just a "Your Ad Here" banner. I'm hoping that Juicy will help me sell directly to the advertisers a bit better than BLA, which appears to have a better payout than just the run of network / filler ads.
     
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    shortbusgeek, Oct 14, 2009 IP
  4. Steupz

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    Totally and completely hate those Your Ad Here viewings
     
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  5. Mr.Notty22

    Mr.Notty22 Peon

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    I have been using BLA since August and I will never switch from them.

    If you are getting the Your Ad Here ads on your page it is because you are turning down too many text ads or CPC ads.

    Recently I rejected any and all CPC ads in favor of only CPM ads and I got those Your ad here ad's all over the place. Just accept them all and turn of automatic approving of ads. BLA gets a lot fo gay, crosdressing, transgendered ads you need to be able to manually approve every ad that comes through.

    I also used Juicy ads and to me they are a joke compared to BLA. I make and average of 2.76 on BLA on juicy it is only a few cents. Since august I have only made 88 cents.

    Also I actually had someone buy adspace on my site though them and I got a measly 84 cents for one whole month of it running and having been clicked 216 times.

    One new issues is their new traffic tear program if someone from a non English speaking country clicks and ad all your ads get pulled for having the wrong kind of traffic.

    Meaning I can have 2k us visitors to my site and 1 visitor from Africa and if that African visitor clicks an ad all my ads come down since and African clicked the ad.
     
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  6. GMC

    GMC Member

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    Some good info here

    I also do not approve the gay porn on BLA

    And I found out the hard way by selling direct ads on Juicy - sold an add for $2 for a month - and this space makes that a day with no ad sold

    I have manually upped my prices on Juicy and have NEVER sold an ad - even though it is less than I make for "filler" ads

    By the way - I also hate the your ad here ads on BLA - BUT I changed mine to advertise my other sites - so its not such a bad thing!

    Again - Good luck with all this
     
    GMC, Oct 15, 2009 IP
  7. Mr.Notty22

    Mr.Notty22 Peon

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    Exactly Juicy ads serves great banner ads that are well designed and very attractive, but you get the short end of the stick money wise. I am experimenting right now with ero-ads on one of my smaller sites to see how that goes.
     
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  8. shortbusgeek

    shortbusgeek Peon

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    I tried Ero not long ago but cut the cord after a week. Earnings were in the toilet. The thing I like about Juicy so far is that if an ad space sells (which I just sold my first one), that it's at least just a quarter of that ad space, as I can put lots of smaller ads, which appear to be working better than the large single banner ads. I'll try turning off the auto approval and see if I can go in and tweak BLA a bit. If it's possible to tweak it as you say, then I might be okay with sticking with them and maybe just have it show Juicy when they don't have any inventory instead of the large Your Ad Here.
     
    shortbusgeek, Oct 15, 2009 IP
  9. piratesbi

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    I love to use BLA & never use juicyads
     
    piratesbi, Oct 16, 2009 IP
  10. tigermedia_ca

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    #10

    First, our NEW system does NOT remove all the ads if you have too many foreign clicks. That was the OLD system. The new system has only been running for a few days.

    Second, you are in charge of your pricing at all times. The prices are based on your clicks. If you have low clicks, you'll have a low price. So either set your price higher, or place your own ads and get your clicks higher.

    If you are only getting 1 click from Africa out of 2k of traffic, you've got a problem anyway ;)

    People give up wayyy too easily. We have a lot of happy clients, sell lots of ads and traffic daily. We are always here to help.

    I've heard tons of complaints from people about BLA who then switch to us and are happier than ever. It goes both ways and not everyone is happy with any one solution.
     
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    Our strength is our direct sales.

    We actually don't put "Your Ad Here" links/images on our zones.. they look pretty ridiculous. If there are no ads you'll see a blank space.. which, I know isn't great but in some cases preferred.
     
    tigermedia_ca, Oct 17, 2009 IP
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    Where are your earnings coming from? What's the breakdown?

    I'm going to guess that you're earning that on Interstatials.

    We don't offer them because people hate them, sorry.
     
    tigermedia_ca, Oct 17, 2009 IP
  13. GMC

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    funny - I ran a poll at my forum - and the vast majority didnt mind them

    2 secs of their time for me to recoup server costs was ok with them

    Good luck with your model - its just not working for me
     
    GMC, Oct 18, 2009 IP
  14. tigermedia_ca

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    #14
    That's fine, and you should always do what's best for your website.

    But its misleading to compare one network's income (which is primarily interstatial (popup) based) to another network that doesn't even offer them. Its apples and oranges.

    Quote from just one study:
    "Click rates are, on average, five times those of banner ads. However, consumers find interstitials twice as irritating as banners. "
    http://www.clickz.com/118931

    Interstatials are great for making money.. they are not great for retaining customers and surfers.

    Perhaps we will add a float-type in the future. I'm always open to suggestions.
     
    tigermedia_ca, Oct 18, 2009 IP
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    Jasonb Well-Known Member

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    I have to say I actually use both BLA and Juicy and the thing I like about Juicy is the a) easy to use system b) the fact that you get decent control over your ads c) the fact they get some really good direct sales. My Juicy ads are really good thats why i give them the best position and also... Juicyads give you superb support, live chat and email support its amazing, Juicy are one of the best adult advertising companys out there i have never had a problem with them. BLA i dont really make much on at all to be honest, im not saying there bad im just saying i dont really offer them much space i offer them 1 slot only and Juicy i offer 6 so obviously i make more on the juicy ads
     
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  16. shortbusgeek

    shortbusgeek Peon

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    So far I'm rather happy with Juicy. I'm using BLA for interstitials with Juicy as the banner ads. I have to say, Juicy's ads look much better than the ads I had from BLA, and I like having the ability to create a set of 4 small banners in one, with stats on all 4 in one place for earnings. (Such as top of page, left of image, right of image, etc, but having 4 small ads in each of those for a total of 12 actual ad spots in 3 places.)
     
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    with blacklabelads we had success with the full page ads, way better than $0.1/click
     
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  18. GMC

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    Last two days of Juicy ads

    zone 1 - 60 clicks, Zone 2 - 1 click = total 61 clicks Income $0.422
    zone 1 - 52 clicks, Zone 2 - 1 click = total 53 clicks Income $0.361

    Grand total 78c for 114 clicks (Less than a cent a click)


    :(
     
    GMC, Oct 26, 2009 IP
  19. tigermedia_ca

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    Honestly, most people are so hung up on earning the most "per-click" that they completely ignore RPM (revenue per milli) .. that is, the earnings on 1000 impressions which is a benchmark that is more accurate.

    Would you rather get 60 clicks at half a cent...
    ... or 5 clicks at 5 cents?
    (If you chose 5c per click -- you earned less money.)

    - We pay for all traffic from all regions. Not all of it is "equal" and is not paid equally. This is reflected in lower per-click earnings.
    - We optimize all campaigns for your individual sites. This means that sometimes, the campaigns that have a lower CPC will earn you more money than something that has a higher bid but is less clicky.



    We want you [the publishers] to succeed. We want you to have good ads. Because the better you do, the better we do. Our goals are the same.

    Your job as a publisher is to do what is best for yourself.
    But you need to know that JuicyAds is always listening, and working to make things better.. so if things aren't working for you right now, you should try again later :)
     
    tigermedia_ca, Oct 26, 2009 IP
  20. ggnshare

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    i like Juicy ads now since they added they pay via paypal feature. id rather use juicy ads due to the fact that i dont think its worth it to wait a net 60 for BLA. not to mention the fact that BLA the clicks basically we get alot less. Even the banners for cpm dont even cut it. With juicy ads every 1000 views i get at least 10-15 clicks due to the fact their ads are more attracting then the ones with BLA.
     
    ggnshare, Oct 27, 2009 IP