Bingo... More to the point, it means someone that believes in something other than X. In this case and in the context of this conversation, Islam.
If it is like this , then what is the problem with calling non-believers( who believes in somthing other than Islam ) like infidels ? browntwn : p.s. Do you enjoy thinking that non-believers are infidels? And thank you for your time, helping me with this
Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him and his family, said that "there will be 30 liars, each of them claim to be a prophet, while I am the last of the prophets, no prophet after me". So far I know 7 liars. 1. Musylimah 2. Al-Aswad Al-Ensi 3. Elija Mohammad 4. Mirza Gulam 5. Ali Mohammad Ashirazi (the originator of Bahai religion). 6. A sufi person in the time of Abbasi Kilafah. 7. Rashad Kalifa.
I agree with him that the Quran is enough for us (to know the truth). I agree with him that worship is to obey the source of the order. I agree with him that the angels were not worshipping Adam when they prostate before him, but they were worshipping God who order them to do so. Now, since God is too High for us to know, we need Him to open a way for us to know Him and to come near to Him. The way is the messenger He assigned for us. (i.e. prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him and his family.) Thus, it is either ignorance or dishonesty to say that "if you prostate yourself for God because Mohammad orderd you to do so, then you are worshipping Mohammad, the source of the order". Because obviously, when it comes to the messenger's order, then it is God's order. He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allâh, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you as a watcher over them. (80) So, why the false messenger Rashad Kalifa didn't follow the Quran? Finally, I agree with Rashad Kalifa when he said at 50:00 that "if you follow Dr. Kalifa, then you are not right."
These 2 links are blocked for me, so can you please quote for me what you wanted to show us. Also, Jihad is mentioned in the Quran, all people know that, even the disbelievers. There is indeed no barbaric commandments in the Quran, there are high walls (limits/laws) made by God, no one transgress them but the barbaric, and when the barbaric transgress the limits, they fall down dead. In this link, the so called quranist say the following: Marking the hand of the thief is stated in 5:38. The sura and verse numbers add up to 5+38 = 43. The other place in the Quran where "the hand is cut" is found in 12:31. This is where we see the women who admired Joseph so much, they "cut" their hands. Obviously, they did not sever their hands; no one can do that. The sura and verse numbers add up to 12+31=43, the same total as in 5:38. This gives mathematical confirmation that the Quranic law calls for marking the hand of the thief, not severing it. Now, I wonder! If they claim that prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him, was forbidden from interpreting the Quran, how can the so called quranist be allowed to do so? Are they better than Mohammad who received such Book from God? Why they supposed that the women didn't cut off their hands, but marked them? Is it mentioned in the Holy Quran? Remember that you want me to follow only the Quran, and I accept that, so why do I need to interpret "cut" as "mark"? BTW, It is proven by NLP that you can walk on fire (even though it will damage your feet) without feeling any pain, by focusing your mind on something else while walking on it. The women were focusing on prophet Joseph, peace be upon him when they were cutting their hands, so they didn't feel pain that during that time. Also, in 5:33, the word "cut" is mentioned, but when we add 5+33 = 38 not 43, so the mathematical miracle is not here. Remember! we must not pick up one part in the Quran and ignore the other. Imad did a good job in explaining this issue for people here. May Allah guide you and me to Himself a Straight Path. The prophet was afraid upon you from such people who use the Quran ignorantly or dishonesty to mislead you. This fact is mentioned in the Hadith.
Why are those two links "blocked" for you? Does your country and government block you from freely reading anything you want?
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/filtering/saudiarabia/SA-S.html The whole submission.org domain is blocked by the government of Saudi Arabia.
browntwn, just in case you missed the story behind alwiser+submission.org vs. polite teen + saudi arabia debate: alwiser+submission.org are shi'te muslims polite teen + saudi arabia are sunni muslims. Saudi Arabia is predominantly sunni, and hence the bans on the shiite submission.org website, according to the highest standards of the Arab intellect and freedom of thought. I guess that this page pissed them off the most: http://submission.org/hadith/ The war between Shiites and Sunnis are the world's bloodiest at the moment. The members of the "religion of peace" are very good in killing first and foremost the members of other Islamic and sub-Islamic sects (i.e shiite, druze, bahai, achmedians, shabak, and many more), and lets not mention women and the "disbelievers".
And it is interesting that Abdullah Bin Saba' who had a big hand in igniting the sect of Shiia was jewish hypocrit (as it is the nature of many jews who live among other people).
Obviously, any bad Muslim is really a Jew. There is no such thing as a bad or evil Muslim. Anyone who is Muslim who appears to do wrong or evil is really a Jew. This is why 9-11 is so obviously a plot of the Jews. You guys and your hate are so cute. Hopefully, you figure out a way to live in peace with the rest of the world before you kill yourselves out or force the rest of us to do it in self-defense.
Come on browntown, you know as well as I do that its those of us that disagree with this hateful crap that are the ones that are spreading hate
I didn't invent that, it is recorded in history. Some shiia deny it, and they claim that sunna invent such claim to let people reject their faith, but actually shiia deny what they don't like, they don't deny with evidence. If they read their books, they will find such fact is mentioned. And Yes, the jews do/did ignite war between people. How many times you mention the western vs Islam when the topic is about you jews? How many jewish claim to be christian and spread hate in the name of christianity? There are bad muslims and bad christians, and there are some good jews. We don't deny that. we are reading the history, but you deny it without evidence.
I don't know what exactly you are asking. But here is my response: 9-11 was an attack on innocent US civilians by Islamic extremists. You are free to think otherwise, but I will judge you accordingly.
LOL. I went to read in Wikipedia about this dude bin saba. According to his wikipedia page, nothing is clear about him. Everything is controversial and his existence or inexistence is a matter of belief, not "history". In the whole wikipedia page about this dude there is only 1 thing which is not controversial about him, namely that "He should not be confused with an identically-named Jewish scholar who resided in Medina at the time of Muhammad"..................... In the "Sunni view" section, he is a rabbi from Sana'. But there is not even 1 reliable source to support this. Namely, the "Sunni View", is actually a fairy tale. So, Polite teen, now it's your turn to make a contribution to humanity and add to human knowledge! (LOL) , click "edit" to the wikipedia "Sunni view" or the references therein, and introduce the "evidence" you were talking about there. (or : most jews are bad) Need I add anything ? I just feel sorry that this forum is not moderated anymore... Anyway for me its enough polite teen is sure polite but damn primitive and ignorant. It is just a tragedy to see how the glorious Arab nation who played a such a major role in the development of the human culture and science turned in just 300 years into crowds of hateful ignorants who can't even tell the difference between complete opposites.
I have explained why is that. BTW, some people on here don't believe that Jesus, peace be upon him, existed at all. There are always people like that, but usually they are ignored. The Land you are living in is the land of Arab, you stole it for a religious reason. (in case you want me to deny the truth that God, Glorified and Exalted is He, is the Owner of Earth) But if we are going to be noble and believe in the Truth, then we would admit that the Earth is God's, not yours and not us and not the Arabs. God doesn't like mischief makers and never He welcome such people, so there is no land for me if I am a wicked enemy for the Truth and The Owner of Earth. So, if you think disbelief in God is right (I am against this option), then get out of the land you are living in, it is not yours, you are from Iraq the place of prophet Abraham, peace be upon him and his family. Thus, Israel and those who support it are real criminals, theifs and oppressors. They are against huminity and the huminity must finish them in order to survive. But If you think believing in God is right (I am with this option), then obey Him and respect His Rules and live in peace or get out. Thus, Israel is a hypocrit country and no one support it but the biased people.