Page Rank not flowing to the second page! why?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Z33M@N, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi guys,

    "bingoliner.co.uk" the page rank is not flowing to the second page called default_full.asp. It use to have a PR 3 but now it shows N/A.

    Could any one tell me what I'm doing wrong or is it out of my hands :confused:
     
    Z33M@N, Oct 12, 2009 IP
  2. TwiKam

    TwiKam Greenhorn

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    #2
    Could be any number of reasons, usual one being no incoming links pointing to the second page and poor site structure or poor use of inbound links.
     
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  3. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #3
    Hmmm don't think we have problem with links pointing to it, Our main page which is PR 3 actually points to that page. Strange don't know what to make of it.
     
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  4. TwiKam

    TwiKam Greenhorn

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    I had a look at your site, and it probably breaks down to just a simple content issue as there isn't anything for google to gets its teeth into... Looking at the source code there is so much code and clutter which does not get indexed so is it any wonder why its not getting the PR...

    I am not sure but did hear something about Google ditching PR after a certain time so maybe the front page has kept it and the second page will simply never update?

    Perhaps another user can explain a little more on the issue as I am not too familair with it off hand.

    At the end of the day, see it from Googles perspective... they are trying to index sites most relevant to their users searching for information. Your site does not fit into what they are looking for at the moment. I know its hard with that type of site.
     
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  5. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #5
    Thanks for the reply,

    I heard the same about Google going to ditch the PR and something about the page rank will no longer flow, meaning you won't be allowed to manipulate page rank.

    Sad thou :) but then again we should not rely on page rank anyway.
     
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  6. affiliates4seo

    affiliates4seo Peon

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    Try to improve the inter linking.

    Use content links from your multiple pages.
     
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  7. robconors

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    Good question. As far as G is concerned nobody can tell why, how and when.
    Firs of all you should wait. It could be many reasons. The main , I think is how old this link is. It can take 6-12 months if ever to see some changes in PR. Go figure!
     
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  8. Dan Schulz

    Dan Schulz Peon

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    You have a canonical URI (Universal Resource Identifier) issue -- your Web site is serving up not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR VERSIONS of each Web page.

    If you were using Apache, I'd tell you how to fix it, but since you're apparently on IIS, I'll have to ask someone how it's done on that end with the web.config (Microsoft's alternative to .htaccess) file.
     
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  9. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #9
    Thanks for the reply, but could you please give me more info I know about the "http://bingoliner.co.uk" and the "http://www.bingoliner.co.uk" issue I'm busy fixing that but what else is serving the other pages?

    thanks for the help! :)
     
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  10. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    What Dan was saying is that the search engines index URLs, not sites, not web pages... They generally treat each unique URL as a different page in their index. You are serving up the same page/content under different URLs which leads to duplicate content issues and split page rank/link juice. To fix your URL canonicalization issues you'll need to determine some rules for coming up with the canonical (preferred) URL for each page on your site and 301 redirect all non-canonical URLs for each page to the canonical version for the same page.

    As he mentioned, if you were running on Apache this would be simple using Mod_Rewrite. Under IIS if you have a dedicated server or a virtual private server where you can install your own applications, you can purchase ISAPI Rewrite from Helicontech.com to do the same thing. I use this on a farm of 30+ web servers and love it. It's about 99% compatible with Apache's Mod_Rewrite.

    NOTE: I am in no way affiliated or paid by Helicontech.com. Just like their product and am suggesting it as a "possible" IIS solution.

    Also if you're hosted on IIS 7.x it supposedly has a more robust built in redirection module somewhat similar to Apache's Mod_Rewrite, but I'm SURE it's not nearly as good. Microsoft is usually decades behind Unix/Linux in developing "useful" software for webmasters. LOL
     
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  11. Jude Vihervaara

    Jude Vihervaara Peon

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    Just like TwiKam said, there is nothing in your content for Google. Actually I'm quite surprised that the PageRank of your frontpage is so high as PR3.
     
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  12. alldaylinks

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    How new are the second pages?

    Google hasnt updated PR in many months now...
     
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  13. Dan Schulz

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    Actually it has. It updates the actual PageRank data constantly. It's the toolbar data that's a few months old by the time you see it.
     
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  14. Z33M@N

    Z33M@N Peon

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    #14
    The index page and the second full page is older then a year. Like I said the second page had PR for a long time and all of a sudden nothing the same for our other site.

    Thanks for all the help I will do a 301 and see what happens. :)
     
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  15. alldaylinks

    alldaylinks Active Member

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    Okay, so it is quite old... it won't be a time issue.

    PR3 is quite low... sometimes not enough for PR to flow to subpages.

    Alternatively, have you exchanged or sold links on the page?
     
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  16. Dan Schulz

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    Oh, it's flowing. Probably not enough to register, but it's flowing.
     
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