Goodbye Englan, hello Britanistan

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by hextraordinary, Aug 14, 2006.

  1. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #41
    You obviously didn't read my post

    No, I guess Irish Americans would be giving them money and the US administration would be turning a blind eye
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #42
    Everyone's fault but those who are responsible. Welcome to Eurabia, Matt. A PM position is awaiting for you in your new country ;)
     
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    #43
    Yeah yeah, join the line with the rest of the nutcases ;)

    So, what is your solution, apart from,

    No comment on the terrorism comitted in the name of Christ either? I guess you're conveniently ignoring your countries history of funding terrorism. Or does that raise some painful questions?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #44
    When all else fails, reach for the smoking gun of moral equivalence. Is the IRA currently involved in plotting threats to the UK? I didn't think so. That'll teach that ol' naughty GTech that it's not politically correct to be aware of a problem! That's the way to sweep the problem under the carpet Matt! Welcome to Eurabia where denial is the first order of business ;)
     
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    #45
    Oh so because it was a few years ago that makes it acceptable? No, Because the terrorists blew up a underground train a year ago that make it okay - No
    It just makes me laugh that you sit their on your ass being all outraged when you and your countrymen funded terrorism not 5 years ago.

    As I said before (you obviously have short term as well as long term memory problems) I'm quite happy to accept there is a problem, though I also offer solutions and a way forward, something you don't seem to be able to do.
    Any solutions yet, or would you rather not air those publicly?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #46
    So they are not a threat, but you feel the need for moral equivalence to justify the current threat. That's what I thought, but I wanted to hear it directly from you. To suggest I've funded terrorism as your excuse to sweep a problem under the carpet is about as laughable as it comes!

    Inaction as the best course of action is not a solution. Do you have anything else to justify the problem?
     
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    #47
    Not justifcation, terrorism is never justified, just happy to point out your hippocracy.

    Again, (short term memory problems surface again) I didn not put forth inaction, but dialogue.
    Pray tell me your ideas, you seem to being rather elusive on the issue ;)
     
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  8. RH78

    RH78 Peon

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    #48
    it's funny that the main "crooks" in this topic is the "West" and Muslims. There is terrorism all over this world. Africa. Asia. South America. The problem is the attention the media gives to the West vs. Muslim issue. And really, no one is right. It's a vicious cycle of "you hurt me, I hurt you". It's the fanatics on both sides that make trouble for everyone. The average muslim doesn't strap C-4 to themselves and blow up a market of innocent people. It's the freaks that are inticed by some power hungry person in a position of influence, deluded and misguided in their own teachings. And yes, the "holier than thou" christians do it too. Ya'll hear Robertson say "Nuke them for Jesus"? WTF!?

    This kind of thing has been going on for centuries. And I'm sorry to say that it isn't going to go anywhere. Whenever you have two sides that see their way as the only "right" way, you're going to have conflict because of human nature. Is it right? Hell no. But it is what it is. Maybe one day, when this whole planet has gone to shit (or we're invaded by aliens or find proof there of ;) ) we'll realize that all of our trivial problems don't mean shit in the bigger scheme of things.
     
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    #49
    That's the problem, it's what they believe in the US, the only good Muslim is a dead one :rolleyes:
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #50
    It's everyone's fault, but those who are responsible. Now we've expanded the excuse making for terrorism in the UK to the US. I don't think I could even ask you to do a better job of making my points than you are doing now.

    When you find yourself in a whole, the best thing to do is stop digging ;)
     
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    #51
    Still working on your idea for a solution yet GTech, three times I've asked, I guess you're just all mouth and no action ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #52
    Are you going to start your little sissy games like you did last time, asking for something that already exists, because it's all you have left? Was that successful for you last time? Gotta reach way down to pull out the last trick in the narcissist's bag? :D

    Awww, poor wittle Matt :D Inaction is the best course of action, always. It's not politically correct to be aware of problems. Welcome to Eurabia, Matt ;)
     
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    #53
    Translation -

    I don't have a clue, I'm just going to sit here being all outraged without offering anything construtive at all.

    Translation 2

    Kill all the Muslims

    Translation 3


    Something incredibly cunning, but you can't seem to write it down for some reason

    I wonder which one it is? :D

    I remember when you actually used to offer somthing in a debate. Nowadays you just recycle the same old phases over and over. I guess you've been taking lessons from Latehorn, though at least he offers something construtive to a debate and his posts are all different. I never though I'd say it, but I miss the little guy. When does he get back?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #54
    Do you have any more excuses to make, or are you content with Eurabia?

    I've tried to cut back on repeating the same things. Forunately I can make a single post and refer back to it time and time and time again, and it holds just as true today, as it did then. And I can't thank you enough for proving my points, over and over again! Even those broad sweeping generalising terms, like "it's what they believe in the US, the only good Muslim is a dead one" can be re-exposed, time and time again.

    Did you want the last word, Matt? Unless you have more excuses to sweep the huge terrorism problem sweeping the UK and how it's turning into Eurabia, I think you've used up all your cards. The "all card," the moral equivalence card, the demanding an answer to a question answered card. Was there anything else? Any more excuses to sweep terrorism under the carpet and pretend it's not a problem?
     
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    #55
    So, that'll be a no then? You have no solutions?
    Only a final one ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #56
    I've already noted a solution. Educating those who defend terrorists and make excuses for them by trying to sweep the problem under the carpet because they believe being aware isn't "multi-culturalism."

    So in essence, for you (at least), there can be no solution, because you are too busy putting the blame on everyone, but those who are responsible. This is reinforced by your "inaction is the best course of action" philosophy.

    Thanks for helping me prove my point again. Go Matt, go Eurabia!
     
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    #57
    i just had a thought ....

    back when the arabs had actually the supremacy and every single person
    who wanted to search for enlightment went to their lands
    did they start calling their countries ararope ???

    when they got attacked by crusaders and burned in europe did they start calling us terrorists....

    when we invaded and colonised their countries after WW1 (wether we want to use these terms or not , it is the truth...) did we ever ask ourselves the resources we are using are not ours,....?

    after all history is the best teacher , civilisations are juged by their history ,and ours (westerns) , let's say is not as white as we pretend...

    and history will definetly be very harsh on the USA , that during 1 century have engaged in more wars than a country can engage in it's whole existence
    ....

    still hoping for world peace ........ yeah i know ,simple minded i am
     
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    #58
    when was this? :confused: If you mean the persian empire; it barely stretched into turkey and was summarily defeated by some westerner, can't remember who now.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #59
    Remind me, what sparked the crusades? Christians fighting back against whom?
     
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    #60
    you know when europe was in the darkages
    and the muslims had all the science and then passed them on to europe through spain (it's in every history book)
     
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