This explains why Muslims do what they do nowadays.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by clade, Oct 8, 2009.

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    http://www.quranalone.com/

    1. Jihad was never justified in Islam. http://www.submission.org/terrorism.html
    2. Veil was never mandatory for women. http://submission.org/dress.html
    3. All the barbaric hudud laws, were also never justified in Islam. http://www.quranalone.com/the-quran/appendices/appendix-37.php
    4. God never commanded anybody to kill apostates.

    The solution is simple, please stick to the divine Al-Quran, and disregard all the fallacious hadiths (even sahih bukhari's, those were compiled 250+ years after Mo.'s death).
     
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  2. believer1984

    believer1984 Peon

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    Asalaam wale kum

    A man named Muhammad-saw bought the religion Islam to mankind.

    His a example to mankind. His love , his affection , his justice etc. :)

    Now in other words they have been complied as Hadith.

    Quran + Hadith = True Islam.

    Has , Is and Will always be that way.

    :eek: Peace.

    w.s
     
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  3. clade

    clade Peon

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  4. clade

    clade Peon

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  5. Traditione

    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Oh hi Muslims, I'm Catholic.

    We really should leave the Jews alone, they do kind of own everything.

    We both made some really silly mistakes, didn't we?...How silly we were to let men control our beliefs and thoughts that were meant to be an intimate connection between only us and our inner Light and Creator.

    True Sharia Law is no different than any other code of conduct, and just as with any other code of conduct, an editorial process is needed to modernize the ancient dogmas and fears while keeping the central themes of cooperation and conservation of energy in tact.

    Doesn't it sound so mind boggling easy?
    That's because it is.
    It takes your strength to act as a Centurion/Lieutenant holding the banner for your frightened and lost Legionnaires/Corporals to organize and stand in unity.
    The weaker ones are looking left and right for someone to lead them, to encourage their progress towards inner perfection, to protect them from the curses of those who would wish to derail them from their path.

    As brothers in a fraternity older than this planet, we are held to the charge of the Archangel to gather His forces in preparation for the Great Cleansing of Aquarius. If it sounds New-Agey, re-read your ancient texts; this story is as old as time. We, the true followers, will prevail.
     
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  6. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    In 2009, humanity should be talking about outlawing religion just as all other kinds of primitive and harmful human instincts are outlawed, and not about a "unified religion for all the people".
     
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  7. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    isn't it funny how muslims spend a lot of time telling us that terrorism and the oppression of women isn't allowed in islam and very little time telling the terrorists and oppressors of women about this "fact".
     
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  8. clade

    clade Peon

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    It's funny that most of you guys that replied didn't even read any of the info I provided.

    Dr. Rashad Khalifa is God's messenger of the covenant.

    Looking at Islam after what he professed is really different, all the difficulties, problems, and flaws that we found in Islam previously, are all now solved.

    For example, pedophilia with regards to the prophet.
    Muslim apologists stretch as far as saying that it was "OK" at the time, but guess what, it just never happened. Muslims at that time made up hadiths, 250+ years after Mohammed's death to justify their barbaric pedophilia arab culture.

    I'll leave the rest for you to discover.

    Prophet Mohammed specifically said if you want to follow him, you follow what he said which is the Quran, nothing else.

    How about this as a Capital Punishment? http://www.quranalone.com/the-quran/appendices/appendix-37.php
     
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  9. Polite teen

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    Thank you very much dear alwiser for this vedio.

    I would like to see more if you have others, because there are many questions that must be answered.

    I agree with Rashad Kalifa in a number of things he mentioned, but I don't believe he is a messenger.

    I agree with shia in some things, but I don't believe their way is the truth.

    I agree with Sufi in some things, but I don't believe their way to be the truth.

    I accept only the truth, where ever I find it, then it is my religion.
     
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  10. clade

    clade Peon

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    Typical mistranslation
    3:19 The RELIGION by ALLAH is ISLAM
    Correct translation
    The ORDER by THE GOD is PEACEFULNESS
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Good point. ;)
     
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  12. Polite teen

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    I have some questions:

    1. What kind of messenger is that who depend on the miracle of other people to claim his prophethood?

    2. His saying that when you say:
    "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is messenger of Allah."

    This would be considered as disbelief, is non sense.

    We don't say that Mohammad is a god beside Allah, so it is not shirk (associating others in worship with Allah) as Kalifa claimed.

    3. Also, God said in the Quran what means:

    Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things. (40)

    So, according to the Holy Quran, Rashad Kalifa is a false prophet.

    Remember: we are only using the Quran as Rashad suggested, yet this method is against him as well.
     
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  13. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Muhammad(pbuh) is the last prophet .
     
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  14. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #14
    Yes, everyone thinks their religion is true and correct and everyone else is wrong. I have no problem when people what to believe in what every religion they want. What is really annoying is the constant effort to try and tell everyone else that they are wrong and only you are right. We don't give a shit who you want to pray to or revere. Just do it and shut up about it.

    I do not think Moses, Jesus, or Mohammad were anything but ordinary men. They did not speak to God. They are not prophets. They are charlatans.
     
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  15. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Do you feel your self better , and enjoying calling ppls, who are Holly for others with bad words ?
    It is just interesting. Maybe you ( maybe other atheists ) feel yourself better after doing this ?

    I wonder how do you live in real life, with all hate to those who do believe and mocking on them , and on what do they do.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    You are free to believe they are prophets, just as I am free to believe that they are just con-men.

    Why is it that you can be offended at my opinion, but I can't be offended by yours.

    It is this double standard that people are sick of.



    p.s. Do you enjoy thinking that non-believers are infidels?
     
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  17. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Yes , you are free to belive or not to believe .

    What do you mean with infidels ? I looked at the dictionary and it writes there
    1- Atheist
    2- Non believer
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #18
    Look closer at the full definition. Specifically "non-believer". Its the "non-believers" in the context of those that DO NOT believe in Islam in this particular context. Or rather those that believe in something OTHER than Islam.

    In that case, anyone NOT rooted in the believe of Islam, is by definition an Infidel. Including but not limited to those who also DO NOT believe in anything.
     
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  19. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, just help me understand it. So doesn't Non Believer mean Infidel ?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #20
    Here try this one, maybe it is more clear.

    Do you enjoy thinking that non-believers are Kafir?
     
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