Nowadays there is so much emphasis on Democracy and political equality than how come UN itself promotes discrimination and has a 'group of elites' which can make or break decisions Please take part in poll
it's not like anyone is "allowing" them to have veto power, they just said, "OK, so, we have veto power" and that was pretty much it. And it's not like the other countries can do anything about it.
Should women be allowed to vote? Should women be allowed to drive? Should women be allowed to marry someone of any religion? Should women be allowed to have any job? Should gays be allowed to live their lives in peace? Should men and women of all faiths have the right to reject the faith of their birth? Should Muslim men have the right to reject Islam? Should the Bible and churches and the open display of the practice of Christianity be allowed in every Muslim country as the practice of Islam is allowed in every Western country including Israel? Should people be allowed to insult any religious figure, be it Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, Jah, without any official sanction of any kind? new, are you seriously going to tell us you are against discrimination and for equality? Give me a break.
Is there any need to drag Islam in it? It is not the backwards Muslims who has been preaching democracy and political equality. It is the hypocrite west and usa which have been dying to save the world to introduce democracy and to 'free' other nations and at the same time having 'veto; powers so why these double standards ? so why the contradictions ? since you are so cool person. and must be against discrimination of any sort , so do you support veto powers for anyone?
Thanks for confirming that you are a hypocrite. You have made it clear that you only care about demanding equality and fighting discrimination except from Muslim countries. Nobody cares about your bullshit complaints anymore. Nobody cares about fake complaints about discrimination when you support Muslim discrimination against every other religion. I am tired of hearing these types of hollow complaints.
do two worngs make a right ? is it OK for veto members to be hypocrite ? the UN is not Muslims vs World, last time I checked UN had a broader mandate . there are only 5 countries having veto powers, isn't this discrimination against other 100+ countries most of which are non-Muslims?
would you mind sharing why do you think so? why should be an elitist club allowed in UN? Are there any moral grounds upon which such powers can be justified ?
because they are superior to other countries in every way, you are even using the internet invented by one of those superior countries.. do you really want to protest against them? stop using and buying anything that this countries has to offer and lets see how strong will the impact be on the rest of the world, only then you can grasp the power and why nobody is protesting against their veto power - this countries actually run the world.
do you want to say that 'might is right' wasn't that considered the law of jungle rather than what civilized world follows or should follow ? so rest of us are all slaves?
Away from prejudice and the feeling of inferiority that some expressed by saying "we are superior", I think the answer should be found by looking at the history of UN and security council in specific, has it been working for the declared purposes it has been established for till now? I think no, it did not succeed in stopping wars or what leads to them, as in Iraq example, in fact, it created more conflicts like in Palestine case when they recognized the illegal Government of Israel as the ruling power in Palestine despite no country in the region, and no African or Asian country recognized it (with the exception of the apartheid then regime in South Africa), add to that the big failure later in not being able to solve the conflicts they created, by not implementing its own resolutions that call for an end for the illegal occupation, so I think whether with veto or not, the security council itself is not the following the purposes that been declared when established, maybe it was at some point, and later been hijacked to try to give a legal cover to illegal and criminal activities practiced by the member countries or their allies.
agreed It is not that abolishing veto power is going to make any difference but the presence of veto for a select few countries does stand out as a blatant and brazen display of double standards on part of UN and the so called world leaders and champions of democracy. Any veto member can stand against the decision of majority of world countries, how is that justified ? and I can understand that why many here. are irked on questioning veto, as well all know who has been main beneficiary of it
The UNSC veto system was formalized at the Yalta Conference, 4-11 February 1945,[1] and was established in order to prohibit the UN from taking any future action directly against its principal founding members; Wiki So Veto system was created to protect those 5 countries interests
Thanks, the wiki link says it all and puts it bluntly that veto has been established to safeguard the big 5 bullies against any kind of crime that they commit. really this is a horrible and shameful display of injustice and the interests of their cronies and it is very interesting that how no one can provide a reason that why is it OK to have veto powers for select few , yet the people are still voting for it
Guys, don't go that far. A political organization where countries like Libya, Cuba, Syria, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, or Myanmar have the same voice as countries like Switzerland, Netherlands, Germany, Poland or Canada, is a joke on humanity. The first are not countries: they are like a football club with an owner who is was never elected and normally couldn't care less for the well-being of his citizens, justice, or any other ideal other than his own well-being and survival as a ruler, usually passed from father to son like in the middle ages. The latter are countries in which the government represent the will of their citizens which are MUCH better educated as a rule. Due to this, since people as just the same people wherever they are, the differences between these countries are minor in comparison with the huge gap between the latter and the first countries. This is exactly why the veto exists: its role is to make the UN look a little bit more serious and not a total joke. Only a small joke.
The bold text , which you wrote, shows how do you think about those countries , like anhuman. Then in elections, not allow those who is not educated , who is poor, and who doesnt have power ....
The people everywhere are the same. Some people live in countries run by dictators and thugs. You are a fool if you think that all the freedom loving people in the world are about to let your dictators and thugs tell us what to do. If you don't like, overthrow you leaders. Personally, I don't give a damn what the Saudi King thinks, or what Kim Jong Il thinks, or what Chavez thinks. As far as I am concerned their voices are worthless. It is a shame that their people lose their voice in the world, but that there is no reason to punish the rest of the world just because those people live under the thumb of an oppressive ruler.
And some dictators has a support by other countries. Dictatorship is another topic. A terrorist regime ( israel ) is supporting by the rest of the world Why do Chavez is calling as a bad guy to the rest of the world , all of this is a part of game . After Chavez was elected, he had plans to use their own oil reserves for interest of own nation . And it was against interests of the USA , then there was a plan , to drop Chavez from the power, with help of the USA secret organizations. But the first plan was failed . ( it was about in 2002 ) Politics is a game