Yes, it is a program from Ken Evoy (look for him in google and you will find tons of material). It was an interesting program about of 3 years ago and helped newbies to build a Website optimized for Search Engines. Also it included an interesting affiliate program. Currently it seems to be quite around this program, I guess it is not any more up2date.
You will also see their robots on your site eating your bandwidth selling your marketing data to their customers and not helping your website with traffic one little bit. Agent: SBIder/0.8-dev (SBIder; http://www.sitesell.com/sbider.html; http://support.sitesell.com/contact-support.html) While the bot will hit your robots.txt file, it seems to ignore the: User-agent: SBIder Disallow: / directive. I've written many times and they ignore all requests I've made, as far as I can tell, to keep their bot off my server. Anybody else add some insight?
Disclaimer: I am a member of SiteSell's technical staff. I was directed here by my employer with regards to the bug report. The SBIder is based heavily on Nutch, as such it also has many of the same quirks as the Nutch open-source spider. Bugs do exist and we attempt to correct them where possible or report them upstream if we are unable to do so. Specifically, we run the 0.8 development series. I've taken the liberty of adding an exact copy of aeronautic.net/robots.txt to our regression test suite temporarily and can confirm that no URLs beyond robots.txt were touched during the sbiders execution within our test environment. Note that we did not hit aeronautic.net at any time during this test nor will the test suite do so at any time in the future. I retrieved the robots.txt file via a standard web browser. There was a case that was previously not in the test suite (multiple user-agents with a single Disallow) so I will create an permanent test for this case for our automated hourly regression runs to ensure it does not become a problem at any time in the future. regards, Rod
Hi Yomick, I've been using SiteSell for about two years now on one site and I've just started another. I originally purchased it to host my wife's site because they have really good tools for people who have no experience putting up websites but after watching what she did with it and seeing what else was included, I purchased one for myself. Even though many of its tools are geared for newbies, not all of them are. As a pretty experienced programmer, I found that it didn't limit me in any important way. If anything, it saved me a lot of time by doing mundane stuff like submiting to search engines, making site maps, automatically checking keyword densities, automatically checking broken links, making RSS feeds and providing pretty comprehensive stats on keyword placement in all search engines. The stats give me more detailed information than, say awstats in cpanel. Probably the best thing I like, is the keyword analysis/site concept stuff. WordTracker is included as well as proprietary tools they have for keyword analysis that goes beyond just supply/demand numbers. I've actually not seen anything similar anywhere. That's what actually pushed me over the hump and buying it for myself. I'd say it's a pretty good value. Our site is making good money, and that's why we started this in the first place. Hope that helps, Tony
My server hosts more than aeronautic.net. I'm not in the business of providing your firm with market data via my bandwidth without compensation. I allow the search engines on my sites because they bring me business. Your firm is a leech - you take from me and sell the results to others. I had my e-mail exchange in October 2005 with Shawn Ellis. However, in the interest of accuracy and fairness, the bot does appear these days to respect the robots.txt files on my domains once it hits them. I don't even want that contact, however. OT: The Cerberian Bot is much worse. They are content filter police. On topic - my read is that sitesell is very MLM like. Be original and create something new to attract and keep your visitors.
sitesell.com is not MLM. it is a hosting company with a few other info products. wow, i m in love with this forum! You can't tell the truth in other marketing forum, or you will get flamed. In other marketing forums I hear people sing and praise about sitesell.com only to find out that it is not as good as they claimed.
Hi all I run my own site via the Sitesell's "Site Build It" (SBI) system and thought I'd like to add my own perspective as a customer. I'm not a techie so I can't comment on the robots issue, however there are certain things I can comment about from a user's point of view. MLM - Sitesell is most certainly not an MLM company. they do run an affiliate program whereby members can promote Sitesell's products, many online companies both large and small do the same thing, but that doesn't constitute MLM. Free Tools Elsewhere - Agreed, you can indeed find free tools scattered around the internet that can accomplish some, not all of the same features that SBI offers in one place, but who the hell wants to spend weeks hunting down the best tools? I've certainly got better things to do with my time, and I certainly don't have time to learn all that techie stuff. Get Rich quick - There's no such thing as get rich quick, well in fact there is, it's called the lottery. Sitesell make it very clear that to succeed you need plenty of motivation and passion. they lay out a step by step method to achieve atainable goals and build a solid business, in fact their main push is on solid business building, not web site designing. http://actionguide.sitesell.com the above link takes you to the place where SBI members follow the 10 step plan to getting their internet business off the ground. SBI isn't a hosting package, that is just a small part of a complete set of tools to build a business, not a website, anyone with a free hosting package can build a web site, but who's going to visit it. If I could take a moment to give you an example of putting up a site versus developing a business? this is from my own personal experience. I had my own business site hosted with a regular hosting company for over 3 years and achieved a fair amount of traffic for my nitch. I'm a mobile DJ in the UK and the demand as far as keywords are concerned isn't great. What's more, I am competing with large entertainment/dj/wedding directories for search engine placement, a flaming hard battle. My monthly visitors averaged around 350 a month, but I was receiving enough bookings from it that I wasn't complaining. I'd heard about Sitesell and SBI about 5 years ago when SBI was at it's early stages, but I was a typical price shopper, meaning, why should I pay $299 a year when I can build my own site and pay $50 a year for the hosting. In December 2004, I changed from my regular hosting package to SBI as they offered a money back guarantee if it didn't suit me so what had I got to lose. Why did I move? Well my traffic had plateaued at about the 350 mark or there abouts per month for over 18 months so I knew it wouldn't improve, and I was spending over $1500 a year on offline advertising and it wasn't bringing in the kinds of bookings I wanted. I spent over six months looking at SBI, customer sites, forum posts elsewhere, anything I could find. Where am I now? Well for the last 8 or 9 months, my monthly visitors has steadily increased and am currently at around 1600 to 1800 and it shows signs of going even further. Baring in mind of course I'm in a very tight nitch. My bookings have increased to such an extent that I'm ditching all offline advertising as my site brings me 99% of all new bookings, most of that traffic coming from Google and MSN. So, in chort I've had to spend $250 a year more on the web building etc, but saved upwards of $1500 in offline advertising, and that's a great return on investment no matter how you juggle the numbers. For the keywords I've targeted now I'm constanly ranked in the top 5 placings on Google, I even get placed above large directory sites which has never happened! also, since I joined SBI, they've introduced god knows how many extra facilities, including RSS and Weblog functions, forms Generators for Surveys, contact details etc and so much more, and the price has stayed the same. The SBI forums for members are some of the most helpful and friendly places I've seen on the internet, and I'm a typical cynical Brit. Pm me if you want to log in to the forums as a guest of mine so you can see for yourself, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and you'll get a good taste for the ethical standards the members achieve.. Not to mention, that Ken Evoy, the President of Sitesell is an active participator in the forum, and that's something you won't find everywhere Incidentally, so you can get a feel for what I'm talking about, my own site is at www.bigmixentertainment.co.uk Some useful links on SBI, no affiliate codes included... http://results.sitesell.com http://proof.sitesell.com and the main Site build It product page is at http://buildit.sitesell.com Take a good look and make up your own mind. Would I go back to regular hosting? Not a chance, SBI just cuts out all the techie stuff and lets me get on with what I do best, DJing. thanks for reading Darren Ps apologies if there are any typos.
I have a Site Build It site myself. My site is Romantic Oregon Coast Vacations (romantic-oregon-coast.com) I love the Oregon Coast. As a native Oregonian, I found it to be a great niche for me. I have been a web designer for 7 years. I work at a 4x4 salvage yard in Snohomish, WA and I design and maintain their site. I've also done a good deal of freelance work. I love web design, but all the extra SEO, optimization, marketing, blah blah blah was exhausting and the results were always mediocre. I gave SiteSell a try 3 months ago and was totally floored by what they offered and the way things are done. My Oregon Coast site is doing extremely well for something so young. I already get around 120 visitors a day and am really enjoying building a business for myself, rather than just a site. I plan to use SiteSell as my vehicle out of the 9-5 world and I'm going to continue to work until that happens. Has being a web designer helped me? Sure. Was it necessary? Nope. Knowing what I know now, I would never go back to doing things the old way. Too much work and not enough time to enjoy. I'm seeing great results this way. I would highly recommend it to you. Keep Your Toes In The Sand! TonyT
What's a fake signature? I can promise you that Tony T is my real name. Tony Thomas actually. Sorry about the live link. I didn't realize that was a no-no. Some other posts seemed to have many live links. That's what has me confused. My apologizes for whatever I did against the guildlines.
Oregon Coast Lover - I never saw the part removed, but if you read the rules you'll see you can only have a signature created via the User CP and then there are rules about how many posts you must have before you can add a live link to a thread or start a new topic. Again, I did not see it, but that may be where you ran afoul. It is a bit odd to those that are regulars here when two brand new posters praise anything. I see, of course, that a very experienced user sivainternet also says nice things. But OCL and DarrenH are brand new. SS (the subject company) makes no bones about the effort to gather intel about my business and sell it at a profit to their clients. I get nothing in return. I find that very unethical - just like the calls from D&B "to update your information." Not my actual credit mind you, just their database. Google and other SEs on the other hand send me business in exchange for the bandwidth they burn surfing my sites - and that is a deal I can live with.
Many of you here know me and know that I know my stuff. I'm very familiar with SiteSell both as an affiliate program (NOT MLM) and as a site building tool. My strong feeling based on lots of feedback from people that have been very successful with it is this: For n00bs or even more advanced people that want a short cut to success and a complete system that offers lots of features including site building, marketing, revenue generation and training - all built into one, Sitesell is one of - if not THE best program out there. If you are already a pro and know it all then maybe you don't need it. But when you look at how high their pages get ranked you just may think twice! Everyone has preferences. Some would say DreamWeaver sucks, cuz they like to hand code. That does not mean DW is BAD for everyone. I think SiteSell is an AWESOME product and I'm not a newbie here or being paid to give them a plug. Just telling it like it is.
I can understand that. Since I'm a web designer, these types of forums are regular stomping grounds for me. Google is my friend =] The only reason I praise SBI is because I know it works and, if someone asks about it, I love the thought of knowing that I will be sharing something with them that will make a huge difference in their life. If they asked my opinion on a simple host, I'd throw them a couple suggestions, they'd make their choice and that would be the end of it. SBI is a real business that is truly cool. No more trying to balance keywords on the head of a pin and all that other time-consuming stuff for me. It's really exciting and I have a hard time NOT sharing. Best regards, Tony
Tony, I appreciate you taking the comment in the spirit it was intended. Clearly, SBI has some fans. I'm not a fan of their corporate business practices. When they pay me for the market intel they are trying to take from me or provide some other tangible benefit to me, instead of to themselves, I'll have a different point of view. Unless you know who they are and pay attention to your logs they are happy to leech your bandwidth and data without so much as a thank you. Ethical? Not by my scale. Google sends me traffic. That's a classic exchange of considerations.