I want my website to be get listed in jewelry section

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by bhavatmaj, Oct 6, 2009.

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  1. #1
    hi,
    I want my website to be get listed in shopping>jewelry section
    my website is 3 years old, and I update my website frequently, and has unique and good content.
    I have already submitted my website 3-4 times in the last 3 years , but no listing
    I need help, any editor who can get it added please pm me.
     
    bhavatmaj, Oct 6, 2009 IP
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    Anonymously Notable Member

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    #2
    You do yourself no favours by submitting more than once.

    You have read on here that it can take from a few days to a few years to get a review.

    You have suggested your site, thank you, you have now done all you can to promote your site at DMOZ, work on promoting it somewhere else.

    Don't believe what you might read on here that you can buy your way in, offering a bribe is the way to get your site banned forever.

    Submit and forget is a good maxim.
     
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    Agent000 Prominent Member

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    duh? Which bit of the guidelines that you agreed to about not submitting more than once did you not get? You have only been hurting your chances of a listing with each submission and only have yourself to blame.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    For DMOZ, my advice is fire and forget. Great if you get in there, just forget about it if you cant get in there.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Shopping section of DMOZ is heavily controlled by DMOZ mafia and there is almost no new editor in that section that can add your site by chance. If you really want to get listed, you have to pay the DMOZ mafia through freelance sites. ;)
     
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    bhavatmaj Well-Known Member

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    #6
    thanks to all for the reply . I got it.
    any place where I can contact/find the editors?
     
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    You obviously dont get it :mad:

    Do not listen to foolish posts like the one above from Gworld. You were told previously that once you have suggested your site, you can do nothing else.

    Your site suggestion may or may not be reviewed in due course. There is absolutely no need to attempt making contact with an Editor. Any intentions of attempting to buy a listing will result in a lifetime ban on all your sites. so please put that out of your mind.

    Move on and focus on other ways of promoting your site.
     
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    bhavatmaj Well-Known Member

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    thanks snooks
    I agree with you, I will forget the dmoz.
    I myself also dont give much importance to it.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #9
    If bhavatmaj has a physical address, then they could easily and with encouragement submit to the regional categories...

    Likewise, there are MANY sites within the ODP that have multiple listings. I have to assume that many of them have been submitted by the end user and/or webmaster (unless all of them are owned by editors)... so deep links are most certainly permissible, though generally not the norm.

    The editor application process says that if you have not heard anything within a certain time period you may wish to re-apply as things glitches happen and applications are lost... that implies the ODP is glitchy and as such resubmitting after a year is likely not a bad thing.

    As the "suggestion pool" is not a "queue" over-writing your previous suggestion is a moot point.

    Good! Submit to the other 30,000 free directories and hope for the best there... and don't fret if you are not approved in them, as you have pretty much the same chances, and a link from them is really no better or worse then the one you will get from DMOZ... though I do strongly suggest you mix up your keywords and descriptions in ALL of the directories you submit too, as that will help those 30,000 not fall under the duplicate content issues that the DMOZ clones all have to deal with ;)
     
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    Deeplinks and multiple listings is at editor discretion and is usually done when an editor feels that a multiple listing is warranted. Is your memory getting short from your editing time Q?

    Here again, we have consistently said that some editors, and I am one, usually edit when working the suggestions pool by date order, so that if we do not have time to deal with them all we deal with the ones that have been hanging around a long time. Others do not do that, others don't use it at all.

    Using the terminology of a queue suggests that at some point the site will get listed and that at some point it will be dealt with in date order, neither are true but both may be true. I think that we try not to give any false impressions about this being just a wait with an end in sight. When sometimes I will use the suggestions because one will stand out, it may be a good description, not taking up ten lines to say how good the site is and review that one against all others. You remember doing that, Q, don't you?
     
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    I am not sure whether you are disagreeing with me or not... you point to my failing memory which indicates I have said something wrong based on previous examples or experiences, yet are saying pretty much the same thing I have just said.

    As for the use of queue/suggestion pool...

    YOU of all the posting editors here have used QUEUE nearly exclusively until the term was changed by makrhod... so *shrug* way to go with that one!

    Also note, if you look up QUEUE, it does not indicate that all entries in the queue are approved, but it does indicate that all of them would/should potentially be reviewed....and note, it's QUEUE not Q which is what you've generally called it ;)

    What is the next word DMOZ plans to change?
     
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    I think that editors here have recognised that people have inferred from using the notion of a Q that if you waited you would get listed. That is not the way that we look at suggestions and don't want to give that incorrect impression and so the idea of calling it a pool, which actually describes it far more accurately was born. That gives the correct notion that editors dip in and out, and mostly we have indicated that changing a date stamp is important when editors look by date order. Some times we will go into a category that has sites from three years ago and simply try and get rid of some of those old suggestions by either listing or rejecting them. As you might or might not remember, campaigns are run to get rid of reds, spelling mistakes or updates (and many more) in which some editors join in and some don't, sorting out categories which have many and long standing suggestions may be a corporate or an individual decision. Then a new submission may cause further delay. I and most editors, if not all, usually point this out when making the statement about delay. Far more important is that multiple submissions can mean getting banned.

    I pointed to you not giving the whole picture about deeplinks and multiple listings, editors decide that, with the exception, which you rightly pointed to, that a site with a clear base, like a shop, should submit to the correct topical category and to the correct locality. Serving the US and based in New York gives a listing in locality New York not US top. But I thought you would have remembered about who made the decisions for multiple and deep links.

    I also tried to explain that you seem to have forgotten that we usually, if not always, add why the datestamp can affect when a site is reviewed so it is not a moot point.

    We would change any word if we believed that we were giving an incorrect understanding or a wrong impression of what we are doing. Unfortunately we are not all trained in law, so that terms can be used in a particular way so that contracts cannot be misunderstood, and there are people who genuinely get the wrong impression from terms that I use, there are others who deliberately twist words too.
     
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    When someone asks about a listing, or brings up that they submitted 100 times, or even asks a general question about whether or not a site is lisable, the answer generally is "read the guidelines" SOOOOOOOO while it is, in the end, the role of the editor to decide whether or not a listing is worth deeplinking too, the choice to submit IS up to the submitter...and as the guidelines DO allow for deep links, and submitters are seemingly required to read said guidelines, then I'm not sure I follow your comments there.

    Should submitters read the guidelines, or are the guidelines for editors?

    Submitting www.xyz.com only ONCE yes... but that also leaves www.xyz.com/this.html and www.xyz.com/that.html open for submission to the single best category.

    Or am I wrong, and submitters should not bother reading the guidelines?

    If an editor does not go through the suggestion pool in order, the placement of the listing is moot. I do not recall you mentioning 'datestamp' in any other post, so *shrug* that can't be all that important can it?

    heh... nice mindset. When you can't change the guidelines, change the meaning of the words within them!

    Brilliant I tell you, simply brilliant!
     
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    Go to scriptlance or some of other free lance sites and you will find plenty of DMOZ mafia members selling listings. The price was down to $40 couple of months ago but thanks to DMOZ mafia join effort the price has gone up to $100 again. It is way too much for this kind of listings but I suppose DMOZ mafia has to get paid some how for many hours that they to have to put in pretending to be volunteers. ;):rolleyes:
     
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    Don't forget that the penalty for trying to buy your way in is a permanent ban on the URL.

    I would have thought you would have read the guidelines,Q, when you were an editor
    http://www.dmoz.org/add.html
     
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    LOL... have you read the guidelines?

    Has ANY editor?

    There are HUNDREDS of sites in the ODP with more then one listing, in fact, there is one site with over TEN THOUSAND! So just who are you trying to fool.... yourself or those reading this thread?

    Deep links ARE possible within the ODP, and you know that just as well as ANYONE.

    Now stop disagreeing with me just to disagree... it's really starting to make you look like thats why you keep posting Anonymously :rolleyes: Or maybe you don't count as an experienced editor

    Are is the ONLY way to get a deeplink to be an editor owned site? Ya know, like luckymojo or topix?

    Seriously... do you have a point other then to simply disagree with me?
     
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    I will dissagree when you are wrong,Q.

    You have not changed your argument from
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    One says anyone is allowed by guidelines to submit multiple entries and deeplinks and changes to the same URL and the other that they are present. THE GUIDELINES ARE CLEAR THAT SUCH SUBMISSIONS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    But note that I said that several listings can happen and deeplinks can be listed BUT AT EDITORS DISCRETION. That's how we have them in the directory. I have multi-listed many sites, I have listed hundreds of deeplinks, none of them mine as I don't have a website, so you are also wrong when you suggest that only editor's sites are deeplinked. But there trying to put a bad spin on everything DMOZ and its editors does seem to be a speciality of yours. Try typing in BBC and see what is delivered.
     
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    I'm waiting for that to happen :rolleyes:

    I'm NOT talking about redirects or masking... I'm talking about deeplinks, there IS a difference, and deeplinks ARE allowed!

    OK, where then does it say that you can not also submit deeplinks? If Deeplinks can not be suggested, then, erm...

    http://directory.domaintools.com/internet-statistics/dmoz-listings.php?p=1

    Explain why sooooo many sites are deeplinked if no one submitted them?

    Then explain Angelfire sites, and yahoo groups, and, and, and, and, and, etc.

    Topix (a site that with editor discretion has been automatically linked over 19k times) has more links then the BBC ;) So I don't need to be putting a bad spin on things, you posting Anonymously is doing a FINE job at doing that.
     
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    I guess you have a great time but all good things come to an end. Thread Closed.
     
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