Going to Start a CPM Or PPC Network Need Suggestions

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by ggnetwork, Oct 3, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hey Guys im going to start a PPC or CPM Network soon since i have the right amount of everything but just want to hear the publishers side and their views.

    Give me some ideas in which you would like to see in a ppc or cpm network.
     
    ggnetwork, Oct 3, 2009 IP
  2. tonyriz

    tonyriz Peon

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    I'd recommend that you dont, especially if:
    a) you don't have a lot of capital (high 5 figures to low 6) or
    b) you are thinking of using a script, any script
     
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  3. ggnetwork

    ggnetwork Peon

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    A) i have 5 Figures to start with the company and i have alot of people i know for advertising.
    b) im planning on using a certain script that goes good with cpm and ppc.
     
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  4. tonyriz

    tonyriz Peon

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    Don't use a script. It's a recipe for failure. Use some of your money to get membership onto an ad exchange, and then build up a client base. Advertisers are more profitable, but publishers are easier to get and will give you a residual income base that you can use to build upwards.

    If you want some suggestions for an exchange or software, or you want to run your ideas by someone, I'd be happy to help over PM or IM as I ran a small semi-successful network
     
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    Good post for someone new here. :)
     
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    YugoSlavac Well-Known Member

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    #6
    I'm sick and tired of useless posts. Learn how to read damn it. There's literally NO guide for new people here in this thread. Someone's asking for suggestions. Idiot.
     
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    Someone can learn from suggestions made... Thank your for your polite comment!
     
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    And what script you want to use?
     
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  9. ggnetwork

    ggnetwork Peon

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    I was thinking ad manager pro since it basically has all the nicest functions around. Ive seen the demo for it. Geo-Targetting, Fixed Rates, and alot of other stuff.
     
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  10. tonyriz

    tonyriz Peon

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    That's murder. AMP is the most commonly used by networks that are just starting. There have been 2 on DP in the last month alone. vadvertisement.com and adstraight.com One of them is already dead. The other is still alive, but there's been downtime, support issues, malware ads. It's only alive through extremely hard work of the owner. Here are his stats : http://www.vadvertisement.com/info.php

    That's roughly 80K impressions a day, which for you, translates to $1-2. Knock off hosting costs, and you might be losing money.

    I realize I seem like a b*tchy detractor here, but I've been there, I've done that, and unless you have 6-7 figures or are an expert coder, or have 5 figures and go with an ad exchange, you're just losing money.
     
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  11. ggnetwork

    ggnetwork Peon

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    Thanks for the info Tonyriz. I Checking both sites out and from what i see the prices and and adveritising as well as backup ads are not enough. it doesnt really depend on the owner all the time. it really depends on the amount of advertising and how well the prices are thought up as well. Either way the script is most likely AMP but we might change it. We are thinking of using the same script as cpx and using a server but i want to see both sides and see which ones we can make the most profits and are easy to handle and use.
     
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  12. tonyriz

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    pricing doesn't really matter at all. You could sell ads at $0.05 CPM and still not get advertisers, for lack of awareness. CPX does use an ad exchange, Right Media. AMP will be cheaper to use, certainly, but it will only be barely profitable, at best.
     
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    Hello tonyriz, do you have any experiences with the Right Media ad exchange network? What are the membership fees?
     
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    i say from A Publisher Stand Point Especially if Your A New Network You Should Do Like net 15, Becasuse From my experience from personal and reading all these threads where new networks launch, people always loose intrest in them because payment, either its like net 30 which basically mean like 60 days to confirm payment, and i dont know about the rest but my ad space is valuable to me for me to experiment on a new network just for a maybe i rather just stick to the one im with, and have my payment for sure..... and with net 15 or something similar you will be able to to have people confirm payment quicker which will get more publisher willing to take a risk with your network once they know payment is confirmed and more importantly then confirm payment to me is longevity confirm payments.. And also paypal, Is A Must And The Minimum Cannot be Some Redicoulous rate, especially if your new.. becasue those who are gonna try you out is gonna be the ones who may take a lil to reach certain amount of impression's... good Cpm rates, and count every impression not just unique's

    So May two cents overview is
    Net 15
    Paypal
    Low Minimum
    Good Cpm rates
    And impression counted
     
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  15. World Class

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    Hi ggnetwork,

    I am happy to see that you will use AMP and I think its the right choice because making a custom script is not easy and its buggy also It will take time to make it bug free say like 4-8 months to make it stable so AMP is the right choice for you.
     
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    Actually, creating a custom script to do something like this doesn't take nearly that long if you hire a GOOD coder. :)
     
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    It takes that much time to make it stable.
     
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    Not if you hire a GOOD coder. I've created an advertising network in a weekend - from the website to control panel to the scripts that displayed the ads and tracked them. It's certainly do-able if you know someone smart enough to think through all the logic before they write the first line of code.

    I've also created a complete 800 number service in a weekend including billing system, number setup and even activating the number with a friend of mine. He handled the telephony part of it - SIP setup and configuration - while I handled the database / web interface side of things. We started Friday afternoon and by Monday had made our first sale.

    Anything can be done pretty darn quickly. Good, Cheap, Fast: Pick 2.
     
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    Can you show me your site ?
     
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    Sold the 800 number service back in 2005, sold the advertising network back in 06. Took a couple years off to get married and travel and play for a bit before getting back into the swing of things. I don't really want to run a company like either of those that require constant attention. The two projects I'm playing with at the moment require very little time and effort. When they hit a certain amount of traffic, I'll hire a graphics designer to spruce 'em up some to make them more attractive, but I earn a comfortable living coding for a fortune 500 company at the moment as well as currently starting an organic farm and horse facility for my wife to run, so I'm not really in a rush to make a quick buck that could be gone tomorrow.
     
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