Are Dmoz Editors Credible? Is there any Transparency in Dmoz?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Jin, Sep 11, 2009.

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  1. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    #21
    they will never give any reasonable answer don't worry , so practically Jin have right at this moment with hes words ... even if is looking like hes trying to '' accept '' it :) ... things are clear for most of us I think ... the guy worked hes a$$ to build the site , lucky he got the link , one of the editors saw the possible market on hes niche and busted him out , and of course in order to protect hes other links and business hes trying to '' go back and have hes silence '' . Jin only reason for what your link was added and taken down I think now can be clear , actually we all know on their guidelines and faq`s it's state '' no link it's supposed to be here forever '' so they have a cover ... don't expect the one who take off your link will say the truth ... lol ...

    Well we will have most probably Jim coming and giving us one of hes famous replies using few words quoted from context and a copy/paste from hes '' story '' ... other one will come most probably and will give me an infraction or some negative rep for my post and we are happy with the situation ... Agent000 you forget dude DMOZ isn't editors site :) so from your sentence I understand editors are feeling like they want when they want and how they want , well the directory was supposed to be build from passion for it , not LIKE YOUR SITES guys to act and do with it WHAT editors want ... they was supposed to follow same rules like others are FORCED to follow . What dmoz owe to webmasters ? at least respect ... AT LEAST respect they owe , not garbage's like Jim giving with so much passion copy/pasting same craps over and over everywhere where he can , most of them being only '' general '' lies and covers for the mess what it's now on the directory.
     
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  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #22
    It's not a lie... You CAN accept money for putting a link up on your own site, and MANY sites do just that. He didn't say you DO accept money, but you most certainly CAN....just like DMOZ can ;)
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #23
    That's incorrect. Please quit flooding the forum (especially with incorrect info or info you've already posted) just to pad your post count.

    Participation = good
    Flooding = not good

    Thanks ~
     
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  4. Master Directory

    Master Directory Well-Known Member

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    #24
    im ever register as a editor, but my application reject.
     
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  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #25
    My?? are you the owner of DMOZ? And how should people believe you without any proof? Post your edit log and the list of domains owned by you, so people can judge themselves if you are part of DMOZ mafia or an honest editor. ;)
     
    gworld, Oct 3, 2009 IP
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    Agent000 Prominent Member

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    #26
    I guess I am going to have to type this again really slow for your benefit as you have demonstrated yet again that you are not particularly bright and you have lied yet again.

    I AM NOT A DMOZ EDITOR!

    Did you GET IT this time? Or did I type it too fast for you?
     
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  7. snooks

    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Without seeing the url and looking at the site, it would be impossible for anyone, be they an editor or a non-editor, to gauge as to why it was removed. As such, we can only work on your statements......

    Lets be fair, not many people will believe anything the editors say, why is everyone so keen to support you and believe what you are stating? If the site was removed, then there would no doubt be a valid reason. Sites do change and evolve and often, what was compliant can become non-compliant, resulting in it's removal from the directory.

    If you do believe that it was an abusive action, then surely the commonsense thing would be to report it through the appropriate links. It would be looked into and investigated by a meta and i assure you, despite the wild accusations that abound in here, abuse reports are taken very seriously.

    Posting in here will achieve nothing, taking appropriate actions will.
     
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  8. Jin

    Jin Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Although i value your input, yet i don't feel comfortable filing a complain as i don't want to trip the editor who might remove my other listings as well! By saying that, i don't mean the editors are evil and egoist etc, i just don't feel comfortable challenging the editor, may be you can say i am paranoid? But i would say that i just want to play safe.
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #29
    LOL. That is exactly the kind of reasoning that most individuals refuse to testify in courts about the crimes committed by Mafia members. :D

    The problem in DMOZ is even worser than the original Mafia since the judge who gets the abuse report is also most likely a member of DMOZ Mafia. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Jin

    Jin Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Lol, well i don't mind giving my url and all that given that they assure me they won't remove my other listings. I believe that one in hand is better than two in the bush :p
     
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  11. snooks

    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Well i'm afraid that if you dont wish to file an abuse report and have it investigated, no one can do anything. :(

    I do however find it sad that this thread wil now be claimed to be "proof" or "fact" of absue, when nothing has been provided but your words......and there is always two sides to a story.

    Cheers.
     
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  12. Jin

    Jin Well-Known Member

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    #32
    It is a fact, not saying that it is an abuse, the editor might have a legit reason to remove it and i am not denying it. In my opening post i did mention that its just my opinion! However, i don't mind giving the url to check given that my other listings are not removed due to this action. My intentions are not to trip over any body or spread false rumors.
     
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  13. donttrustthisposter

    donttrustthisposter Peon

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    #33
    DMOZ is really a Soviet style ran directory with the motivation of listing links based on some political and self serving notions. Really my suggestion would be to count your blessings that you at least have a link in there and to not count on it staying in as some editor will eventually for self benefit eventually remove your link.

    The only way is to become an editor yourself and that's a whole other nightmare but possibly worth looking into.
     
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  14. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #34
    Usually the law enforcement agencies offer witness protection programs to those who witness against Mafia, may be we should set up some kind of link protection program for those who fill abuse report against DMOZ Mafia. :D
     
    gworld, Oct 4, 2009 IP
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    #35
    Ask about the URL Jin, don't let these people who do not see the inside of DMOZ put you off. I can't guarantee that any of your other sites will not be removed, simply because we cannot give that guarantee to ANY site. But it would be a bit open if you reported one site and then another went off, when many of us can look at the editor notes and see if the same editor did both and what has been left behind. I don't think an abusive editor would dare do that because they would be caught and if your sites don't warrant listing anyway anymore then they may get removed anyway. So clear up the matter and submit a report and come back and tell us what happened.

    I cannot deal with the report or any such report as I'm not senior enough for that, just in case anyone wondered if I was biased or not. But I will be pretty sure that there is a good reason for the sites removal, but we do get a bad apple at times, (gworld claims to have been an editor once) but they are usually found before long, and if this is one such we want to know to get rid.
     
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    #36
    Sorry duplicate post
     
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    #37
    In another word, keep your mouth shut or face the consequences. ;)

    The editor doesn't need to remove the site personally, can simply ask his brothers in DMOZ mafia to remove it in proper time. :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Oct 4, 2009 IP
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    #38
    I don't think you are being paranoid. I think you are being realistic.

    They won't investigate whether your site was removed for a valid reason. Snooks said before:
    That's how DMOZ editors and metas think about your claim. They will never admit your site was removed unfairly. They will make some time thinking for an excuse that will make the deletion of your entry, seem correct. They will look for the rest of your sites and will remove them if they meet the criteria for your first URL. Then they will make new excuses for removing the rest of your sites listed.
    All this will eventually happen. May be not in a couple of days. But you will end up punished whatever it takes.
     
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    #39
    Gworld we are all corrupt, we all should be in prison for fraud ROFL You must write stories because you have a wonderful furtive imagination. I have 10 million dollars in the bank from all the listing I have done, well I wouldn't waste my time doing any for free and if I had that I wouldn't waste my time here. LOL

    If I sell fish and chips I would not easily say don't buy them they stink and are not fit to eat. Why would we want to labour so hard not to pay when we are all lining our pockets?

    If you don't come back and tell us Jin then I have to conclude that you are having a joke and just trying to stir the pot.

    Unfortunately we do have some ex-editors, booted for abusive editing, they keep popping up on here, I think that shows we run a tight ship. Unfortunately none of them wil come clean and say, yes I did edit abusively, well would you?, so they say DMOZ is corrupt and provide no proof.
     
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    #40
    Don't try to put a trap for Jin there. You would love knowing his/her real identity, don't you? You have a large history of proof denial. Why are you so interested in Jin's URL?
     
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