Forced Vaccines Refused By Nurses In New York

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Briant, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #21
    What authorities?

    To save time, when you make unsubstantiated claims just assume i'm going to ask you for your sources and post them without me having to ask, there's a good lad.

    I don't know what jab he had, and neither do you. the difference is, you are the one claiming to know, which is a lie.

    Why would drug manufactuers want you to die at 60?

    briant, they are no more "forced against thier will" to do it than bakery workers are forced against thier will to wear a hair net. They havnt got to do it, but if they don't then they can't do that job. It's a requirement of the job.
     
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    #22
    Hair nets are agreed to and understood when taking the job as being part of the job. Also, hair nets have no health risk to the individual wearing them. Apples and oranges here.
     
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    #23
    It's not apples and oranges. The risks assosiated are irrelevant because we are talking about whether it's "forced against thier will" or not, any assosiated risks don't effect whether it's "forced against thier will" or not. You are doing a briant here, decide what it is you are arguing against before trying to argue against it. Are you arguing that people are being "forced" to do something "against thier will" even though the nurses have "refused" the vaccine or are you arguing against the assosiated risks of vaccinations?
     
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    #24
    Err. No when people take a job, their is an agreement between employer and employee. They made no agreement to take these vaccines and the hospitals have not made it a requirement. The government did--after the fact. Once again, if the government makes a rule stating that you have to have sex with your boss or lose you job--it's forced. No two ways about it.

    I notice that you haven't bothered to address the issues with respect to the vaccine per se. It's the point to having freedom--taking on the issues of the day and not letting some bureaucrat following his masters' orders treat you like an animal.

    For anyone who actually cares, I would recommend those links I posted especially the dailymail link, which is to the point.
     
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    #25
    I think that is the stupidest point anyone has ever made on this forum.
    that annalogy is so rediculous i'm not even going to address it. it's equivolent to saying making people wear hair nets where food is prepared is the same as demanding sex from someone. I think you have demonstrated just how facile and ludicrous your argument is.

    Yeah, fight the man!! from your parents basement. :rolleyes:
     
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    #26
    I don't think you're that stupid. So I suspect you are just being disingenuous. Making someone put something into their body against their will is wrong. And if you think a coerced vaccines or sex is analogous to a hairnet, you have the problem. Take the red pill--soon.
     
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    #27
    It's not against thier will though, that's the point, hence the fact that nurses have, according to the very title of this thread, REFUSED to do it.

    If you think abusing ones position to demand sex is analogous to requiring health workers to be vaccinated against a highly infectious virus while working with vulenerable people then you have a problem, unfortunately i don't think there is a colour of pill which can fix that level of detachment from reality.
     
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    #28
    I understand now stox, you're saying even though it's not an up front requirement, it's ok to require it because it's for safety concerns of nurses passing a virus to people who could die from it.

    ...oh and it's not being FORCED on them because they're not being physically held down and given the shot ROFL...

    Are there any studies to back up the claim that this H1N1 vaccine helps in any way? Are there any studies on the mortality rate of those given the vaccine? NO? ok, good enough for me, who needs to back up any reason to actually make them get the shot anyways? ;)

    If my brother was held @ gunpoint and the guy said I had to give him my wallet or he would first blow my brother's brains out and then walk away, he wouldn't be forcing me of course to give him my wallet, it'd be my choice to give it to him. I'm sure a judge would not charge him with theft because I CHOSE to give him my wallet and he never FORCED me against my will. OH WAIT!

    I understand what you're saying, I just think it's way off as do the others in this thread. The biggest problem is you either don't understand everyone else or you're so extremely pig headed you will argue till you die because you've already chosen a position.

    Requiring a hair net for food workers and requiring an H1N1 vaccine for nurses IS apples and oranges and not a valid comparison. I can't believe I'm even spending time on such a pointless arguement.
     
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