Successful Clickbankers, difficulty finding REAL winners?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by groc, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. #1
    Just wondering for the people out there doing good with clickbank, do most of your sales come from just one product or is it just a combination of lots of products?

    When I get into a new niche in clickbank, getting traffic seems to be difficult (use bum marketing myself, I hate paying for traffic...), on average I do about 3-8 sales a week for any new niche/product I promote which I guess is not that bad at all, but is it normal?

    Sometimes it disappoints me after putting in all the effort because when I start in a new niche I set my goal to be around 5 sales a day just for that product and then just usually end up with just 5 a week.

    There's been times I hit it big and pick a product that does 5-10 sales a day for me (only happen 3 times), but after a while the competition starts creeping in and sales drop.

    Depending on how big or little a niche is, it takes me about anywhere from 30-80 man hours (rough estimates) to complete my promotions which ends up making me 3-8 sales a week. So just really asking, am I setting my expectations a little to high when doing this?

    Thanks
     
    groc, Sep 29, 2009 IP
  2. Michelle.

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    Hey,

    I'm actually a newbie, just getting started so I don't know if you'd appreciate my feedback but I think you're doing really well making 5-8 sales a day. It may not be a lot compared to what your goal is but the fact you're making sales is a good sign.

    Since you're spending a lot of time (30-80 hours) on bum marketing have you thought about outsourcing the article writing? I guess you should have a fair idea of the products that are converting... that's what my plan is anyway, find the products that convert and then use the money earnt testing the products to hire article writers....
     
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  3. PiNKAPPLES

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    Combination of products... now about that traffic... buying traffic is A LOT better... not only better quality but you get more of it. I ran a little test recently...

    I did all that boring ass SEO stuff and got ranking first for the keywords I wanted... the title and description read like an ad, etc. and I noticed the traffic sucked. Took the same title and description and used it for the ad copy of my Adwords ad then I started bidding on the exact same keywords...

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    Traffic from Adwords (CPC) is quickly approaching DOUBLE what the natural SEO traffic brought in (and continues to bring in)... never again will I waste time on SEO or bum marketing BS. So many hours wasted and so little traffic when compared to buying traffic.
     
    PiNKAPPLES, Sep 29, 2009 IP
  4. mlord10

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    bum marketing can work, but you have to focus on balancing quantity and quality. In my opinion, writing 1-2 articles a day will not cut it unless you are very good at backlinking your articles to rank very high in google. Then again writing 30 crappy articles a day with no keyword research will not get you anywhere either.

    I am starting some new niche campaigns, I am going to build a list in each niche, and have article marketing as my primary traffic generation. My goal is to make $100/day per niche, hoping to become successful in 3 or 4 niches pretty soon.

    I started in the IM niche, which is just too crowded in my opinion, unless you really know what you are doing. :)
     
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  5. hamidap

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    3-8 sales a week isn't bad for a new product. How many articles do you write per product per day? The majority of my sales come from one product (converts at 1 in 10) and I have about 5 other big converters - I submit most of my articles for those 6 products. After that I have a few products that make only a few hundred a month so I don't really focus that much on those.
     
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    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    Go after more expensive products/bigger payouts. If you hit it big ever again it's not time to watch it die out, it's time to 10fold your efforts. Making ANY sales a week is great if it's free/time, however once you have resource (money) you'll find your time to be more valuable, and buying traffic/partnering with people for bigger efforts makes a lot more sense/dollars.
     
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  7. Skagenweb

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    My product is performing very well. Low refunds, high conversion rates!
     
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    "backlinking your articles to rang very high in google" can you share more about it? thanks
     
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  9. dreampower

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    Hi...
    It is good, you can sell every week with free traffic.
    I have tried to generate traffic by PPC ads adwords and Facebook by direct link. Many clicks come, however only 1 sales / 2week in average. I am still loss. Now, I put squeeze page with opt in to collect email. Now , I am still running it and can not judge yet whether it works succesfully or not.
     
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  10. Thedoper

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    how many bum articles you right to get those kind of sales.
     
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  11. groc

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    I don't use ezinearticles, but a lot of web 2.0 social sites I post my articles on. If I find a good keyword I get 10 articles written on that keyword and spread them all on different sites and and do some backlinking, I usally get one of those on the first page but often I have a couple on the first page and the rest sprinkled all over page 2 and 3. So like I said depending how big a niche is I can end up with 5 keywords (50 articles) or 20 keywords (200 articles)

    Maybe that's where I'm wasting to much time on, getting 10 articles for just one keyword, but than again that gives me 9 more chances to get at least one or some of my articles on the first page. What do you guys think?

    I know this bum/article marketing is real labor intensive if you really want to squeeze a good buck out of a product, but right now I don't have enough money to play with PPC. Currently I'm trying to do $300 a day with just bum marketing before I move on to PPC, which I probably wont do because after I'm done with my bum goals I going straight to working on my adsense income, so I may never actually get into PPC atleast not anytime soon. I'm about half way there now doing about $100-$150 a day bumming, but all that goes towards the mortgage and I have 5 kids to take care of so while it may sound like a lot to some of you its only enough for me to get by.

    Thanks
     
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  12. dreampower

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    good choice to post in social web 2.0... as an alternative of ezine directory...
    I posted an article in EzineArticle.com, need more than 2 week to review, and if we have to revise, it take 2 week more, so totally more than one month...
     
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    I like using squidoo lenses then I funnel all my traffic from articles and classified ads and similar sites.
    I just link everything back to my lenses that way my squidoo lenses rank well and get good organic traffic, also if the articles rank well they provide good traffic I usualy use ezine articles, go articles, article base isnare and usfreeads I also link straight to the product page from the articles, ezine dont let you do this but they alow redirects I just buy a .info at godaddy they cost just over $1 it looks alot nicer than a hoplink too I am a full time student at the minute and probably only have a couple of hours a day to do work but I find this little system quite effective usualy brings in about $150-$200 a week which does me just fine :D
     
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  14. grayth

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    Wow did Mlord ever drop the bomb and everybody just glazed over his comment
     
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    #15

    Maybe you need to focus on your demographic and certain age group...Split test your images with different images...
     
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    Its always better to have multiple campaigns on different products that generate multiple income instead of a single product that generates a lot.

    Reason being is of security/reliability (Never put all your eggs in a single basket) -its easy for a niche to eventually dried up (because of competition, etc) so if you have multiple streams its even better.

    If I was just getting started I would focus on generating different income streams (Focus on them one at a time) and then the next step would be to scale them up to generate as much as possible from each. But remember to have different streams, because its too risky to depend on a single one.
     
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    Yes once you have found a good niche that is converting you need to stay on top not just take it easy!

    Even the products that do well for me take a lot of on going work to keep them ranked etc...

    Chris
     
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  18. GeorgR.

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    constant trial and error. And yes, most of my sales are from ONE product.
     
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