whats average time for a PR to be assgined to a new site?

Basically, a while back (first week of june) a new site was launched - but i am afraid something may have gone amiss with the SEO this time. To-date, it has no PR at all and the pages that it ranks on for SERPs are very sporadic at best.

Any ideas how I can check if its not penalised in any way as the site has some regional variations that need to respond to searches so a lot of content may appear duplicated. for example, office cleaners london, office cleaners manchester and the accompanying postcodes all get their own pages. there is a total of a little over 1000 postcodes / postal districts covered that are multiplied over the services and the sitemap grows exponentially...

webmaster tools claims to have spidered about 1.7k urls of the declared 17,000 in the sitemap...)

can anybody offer some insight? domain is www.cleaning-4u.co.uk
I have already tried to add nofollow on a lot of secondary and less-important postcodes etc so that the sitemap went down to about 700 urls. google's response was: 117 of 700 urls cached (i KNOW it has at least 1.7k... )

very frustrating - at the very least, it should be a PR1 or 2 site by now?

 

does the site rank for keywords?

 

You should have a Pagerank by the next update, don't have concerns until then.

 

Just wait. I have the same exact problem right now on my website trafficke.com

 

for some it ranks well but others - not at all.

for example, carpet cleaning london - not in the first 100 pages.
carpet cleaning ealing (which is a district of lodon) - page 2.
office cleaning (london or ealing, nowhwere to be found, which is a problem, any ideas?)
end of tenancy cleaning tunbridge wells - #no.1 (who cares though)
rug cleaning woolwich #2
cleaning southgate #6
domsetic cleaning southgate -> unknown, although this ought to be less of a problem than just cleaning?

etc etc. basically - traffic from google and all search engines is averaging something like 31% combined. it's had hits from:

google (site total 27%)

and rest split between
yahoo (2%)
bing
aol
ask
altavista

i know it's a waiting game but traffic has not been raising, it's been falling by 20% compared to same time 30 days ago... there is no external link building to speak of aside from links from my forum sigs and a few twitters they tried to do...

what gets me is that the companies that do rank no.1 for al these searches seem to have terrible organic seo and so many links that it is ridiculous, a lot of which are clearly irrelevant (barbados hotels site linking london cleaning services?)

anyway, thanks for any advice on how i can salvage this situation and fix it. msg me with any ideas that don't have to be public also.

 

There hasn't been a PR update yet so you will be unranked until then. Should come in the next few days.

 

PageRank does NOT equal google rankings

i would concentrate less on PR and start writing a few articles and keep going with the link building. if you stop building links then your ranks will slip. this might explain the 20% drop on last month. my guess is you done some link building - it showed up well - then you stopped - now things are slipping ??

 

Google PageRank keeps on updating all the time but you've just missed the latest export of it..

FYI, Backlinks count is one thing but the quality of the link / linking page / and the site it self is what really matters.

However, good luck with your site PR hope you will get rewarded by some green

 

As far as im aware pagerank is continously updating, i create a website a couple of months ago and received pr within 3 weeks.

 

that's what's bothering me. it should have showed up by now, things have always happened somewhat faster for other sites i have created... its as if something has gone horribly wrong

and yes, i know SERPs is what matters and not PR but the client tends to see PR as a semi-accurate measure of how important their site is and how it compares against their competition... which is why I'd like it to NOT BE 0 - if that's at all possible :/

 

I can make any page PR 0 within a week, but its not cheap. On the next PR update it would most likely become a PR 3 or PR 4. But PR is not the main focus, dominating the first page for your keyword(s) are. Both go hand in hand though. Otherwise PR will be exported to the toolbar about every 3 months. I think we are passed due for this PR update. Kind of funny that Google tries to crawl pages quickly but has old data in its toolbar. PR is probably just a ploy to keep webmasters talking about Google, and quite honestly it works!

 

bold statement, got any evidence to back it up?

 

Can you provide proof and do you have a service?

Im sure others will ask

 

Google PageRank Update should be about few times a year, no one know the exact schedule, however what you should do is keep providing quality contents and drive more visitors to your site without spamming.

 

This is actually true, here is the evidence: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=30314c43e0bb30cf&hl=en

I started this thread on August 10th, 2009 and it got a PR of 0. Though, I don't actually know how to do this, I just noticed it happen one day.

NOW for Google, this is another reason not to wait 4 months (going on 5 MONTHS now!! ) to do a pagerank update. This just makes the PageRankâ„¢ system look really crummy and crappy like DMOZ. You know what I mean, the laziness in updating things on time, old crap hanging around for most of the year. 2-3 months without an update is normal and fine, but after 3, 4 and getting on 5 months is really terrible and reflects badly on Google. There are people besides webmasters that sell links, that think PageRankâ„¢ is important in the visual toolbar. I mean actual visitors that know nothing about how it works and that it takes months for it to update and actually JUDGE websites and link to them based on this Rank.

 

what the hell has you dmoz thread got to do with this guys claim?

btw nobody cares about your dmoz problem, i would have thought you would have let it go by now

 

You asked for proof that Tornado! could get a PR 0 within a week outside of the normal update. Look closely at the PR bar on the thread I posted, it has a pagerank 0, yet I started the thread in August, well after the last pagerank update in May.

I was trying to show you only the PageRank of that page, not the content.

 

i asked tornado, not you

after all he is the one making the claim, so i would expect him to fight his own battle

and your post is still not relevant - what am i supposed to be comparing this data with? tornado has posted nothing to back his claim.

all you have proved it that google does not give a $hit about your thread

just get over the dmoz thing, i would have though the flaming you got in that thread was enough, yet you bring it to our attention so we can have a go. ok you asked for it

 

First of all, none of my posts in this thread had to do with DMOZ, I don't think you read through my posts carefully enough.

The link I posted was to a DMOZ related thread that I made at the Google forums. THAT post was made in August and it got a PageRankâ„¢ of 0 within a week. (Note that the objective is to look at ONLY the PageRank of that post, no need to read the DMOZ related content except for the date that the post was created on 8/10/2009)

This is relevant to the original topic of the thread (not just your curious "fight" and "battle" with Tornado!). Many members who are interested in this topic SHOULD be interested in the fact that this page went from a PR of N/A to 0 in a week during the month of August.

Remember, the last PR update was May 27th and we haven't had one since.

 

can you prove any of this?