What kind of niche are you satisfied with?

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by Alsuran, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. #1
    I'm not exactly sure on what people look for when analyzing a niche. Well, obviously, high paying keywords, lots of searches and if possible no competition, but I'm guessing they usually settle for less then that.

    What is the minimum keyword bid/number of searches/competition power that would make you build a website for that niche?

    What I saw in my own behaviour, i usually look for a minim 6-7000 searches/month for that keyword/combo of keywords when looking into that niche. I also seem to be satisfied with a 70-80 cent maximum bid on that keyword if the competition is low enough. My very small list of ideas to launch in the future seems to point to this kind of behaviour anyway.

    How do you do it? :)
     
    Alsuran, Aug 11, 2006 IP
  2. Alsuran

    Alsuran Peon

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    Damn ... can a mod please move this to the Adsense section? Thanks.
     
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  3. Ozzie

    Ozzie Active Member

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    Hi Alsuran. I'm also interested in how others decide on their niche. I haven't decided on one yet and could use ideas and opinions too.
     
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  4. Travis

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    I write down what I would enjoy spending a lot of time doing it (Websites aren't 1 hour projects, after all). Then I check out the competition, modify my plan based on that data -- Then I go for it. I don't like mainstream sites, I'm not at that level yet, so I would rather make some extra cash doing what I enjoy, and I'm not doing bad at that plan -- so far.

    If you enjoy what your site is about it, it is more likely to grow as you will put more time into creating the content, more content is more visitors, is more potential clicks, is more potential earnings. So in the end, everything leads down the same path.
     
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  5. Alsuran

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    Finally moved to the Adsense section :D ... anyone?
     
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    i think we shoud choose high paying keywords, at the same time we like the job, and know a lot.
     
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    6-7000 searches a month is nothing for a whole niche.
     
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  8. Alsuran

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    You guys are missing the point of the first post ;). I`m interested in how exactly is everyone choosing his niche. Minimum number of searches, minimum keyword bid .. etc ... what are you looking for when you research a niche.
     
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  9. Trisha

    Trisha Active Member

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    I chose my niche on the basis that it's my hobby and I love it. I think it's sad that people are basing their websites on keywords and searches and ignoring quality content. I'm beginning to wonder if AdSense is a good thing after all. The other day I tried to search for something on Google and I couldn't find a single website with any informative content. It was nearly all links to other links sites and google ads. If this is the future of the internet then it's not going to be worth having. Rant over. I'll go back into my little niche now and keep quiet.
     
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  10. mobilebay

    mobilebay Active Member

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    i don't choose niche markets i go for large markets, then if possible deviate slightly, and try and out perform them for less, mainly because big companies spend a lot of on getting noticed therefore smaller guys can get in especially if you use ppc to generate traffic for your adsense and or sites,
     
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    I just have my sites about what i like and know and can handle or know it will be usefull not building for "payed high keywords" olso in my opinion a good site with good trafic can make good money in any domain .
    Regards
     
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    Creating very tight niche sites means you need to create a lot of other niche sites or go for a broader niche. Very few tight niches have sufficient searches done on amonthly basis.
     
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    chachacallis Well-Known Member

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    minimum number of search is the best thing to go by then again you should choose something you really like to base your site on.
     
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  14. Alsuran

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    #14
    I'm not trying to ask how to find a niche here guys :) ... just curious on what do you base your new projects ... don't tell me you don't research them at all before you start them.

    Do you have a minimum number of searches/ minimum keyword value, etc, when you look for them? :)
     
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    What is it your really trying to ask? It's a weird question. Some people base it on making money (in which case they will do research)... Others do it for hobby (if the hobby interests them then they have been doing research for years because it is what they love). I don't think it's something you force (unless you are trying to make quick money).....
     
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  16. Kitarist

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    well actually yes when i want to find a good niche i first check how many searchers for my nicher are per month and then i analyze that with seomoz (so i can see how difficult is to get my site to the top) well thats it ehe :D
     
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  17. Alsuran

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    It doesn't seem weird to me. There is so much talk in these forums about finding a niche where you're alone if possible that i find it unlikely that noone is actually properly researching that niche before launching a project where they have to put so many hours of hard work to make some money.

    As I see it there are those that make just websites about what interests them the most (exotic cars in general for example), and then there are those that try to find a niche in what they like, and talk only about Pagani cars let's say. My question was directed to the guys in the second example, that are trying to find a niche. Just curious if they research it and what kind of results they look for when they decide if it's worth spending months of work on it.
     
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    My guess is that most people don't do the kind of detailed research that you are looking for. It's done more on gut instinct and passion. As for myself, I do research, but I don't have specific numerical parameters that I use. If the topic has the right general parameters, my personal interest in the topic takes over and determines if I actually do it.
     
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  19. MarcP

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    Hi,

    I don't want this thread to die away so easily (, because I am highly interested).

    We are here in this forum because we want to make money, otherwise we wouldn't care about SEO, optimizing the CTR etc. In the different threads has been mentioned the word "niche" very often. Many DPlers recommend to "Think niche, niche niche." and "find a good niche, and build traffic, you will succeed" etc.

    However if a niche is so important to everyone than we should find more than only soft factors like "to choose something you like". Everyone who mentioned that please take my apoligies. I do not want to be rude nor offensive. ;) These factors are important but there must be more.

    What are criteria that define a niche that is worthwile going for?

    * Number of searches per month
    * Strength of the competition
    - number of competitors
    - Number of Backlinks and their quality
    - Pagerank
    * Number of results for google
    - search in quotes
    - intitle / inurl
    * Commercialisation
    - number of advertiser
    - Avg CPC of at least the first three advertiser

    What more do you consider when you are looking for a new niche?

    How do you weight each of these aspects? What is more important and what is less important for you?

    What are acceptable values for these criterias? Especially for the number of searches per month. I am aware that the worth of a niche is a combination of the number of searches and CPC (what itself is only a weak indicator for what you can get). However I have found many keywords with 20 - 50,000 searches per month? Would that be sufficient for a niche or are you going for higher numbers?
     
    MarcP, Aug 17, 2006 IP
  20. Kitarist

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    well clicks must be at least 0.25-0.50 per click and that theres not so much competition and searches per month are reasonable. Its very hard to find that kind of niche but if you search for some information you can find it
     
    Kitarist, Aug 17, 2006 IP