Too Bad .. UN also Find isreal responsible for war crimes

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  1. iggysick

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    #21
    You think like a nazi. I didn't ment literaly nazi. Grow up or go away. Kid.
     
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    #22
    Nope, I don't think like a nazi either.

    You are obviously looking in a mirror. Let go of your hatred, find peace, look for love - a love that would put others before you.
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #23

    Another clear indication that moderation at DP still SUCKS!!!

    Wow... having been told the stories by my grandfather of how the Nazi's treated him as a POW in WWII, its pretty clear to me that you have absolutely no concept of what you are attempting to describe.

    Its amazing how nonchalantly several people here throw names and labels around without consequence.
     
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    #24
    Your confusion is reflected everytime you try to pinpoint me with something you believe.

    Do you really think there is something similar to an anti-Israel group and anti-abortion? One group bent on killing someone and the other on stopping the killings... Sorry I don't really care about the lunatics who don't believe that the holocaust happened or someone who wants killing stopped whether by religion or any other group. They are welcome to voice their opinions. But if a group is all about hatred, the a company has the right to delete their page. Cry all you want...
     
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  5. new

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    #25
    I never knew that you can kill someone with facebook group :rolleyes:
    I should be careful!

    stiil
    if you don't like the abortion group we can leave it, there are still many others
     
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    #26
    I am assuming you are responding to my post, but again you sound confused. Did you think I said you can kill someone with a FB group?

    Read what I wrote then show me where I said that... Or how about get to school, dropping out at such a young age to ramble on the Internets is not helping you any.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #27
    The only one doing any bashing here is you NEW...
     
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  8. ChaosTrivia

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    #28
    PHEW! Damn infractions! new imad and the rest of the mujahideen, your nightmare is back!

    Allow me guys to tackle new with some words directly related with the topic and not with his disgraceful personality and pittyful education. This is not since I expect him to react to words of sense, but the goal audience of the following is you, the decent intellectual people of the modern liberal free world :)

    I made a 20 minutes online research on the Goldstone report. Here are my findings:

    1)I found the resolution who started the whole Goldstone affair on the website of UNHCR - The UN Refugee Agency.
    The "Human Rights Council" called in its original January 12 resolution for an investigation of "Israel's human rights violations" - and only Israel's.
    And this is the title of the resolution:
    "S-9/1 The grave violations of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, particularly due to the recent Israeli military attacks against the occupied Gaza Strip."
    (sounds pretty much like a book title, or a final verdict, no?, what about the words "alleged", "suspicions", "possible"?)
    In the voting in favor or against the resolution these were the results:
    In favour: Angola, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bolivia, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Chile, China, Cuba, Djibouti, Egypt, Gabon, Ghana, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Madagascar, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mexico, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Africa, Uruguay, Zambia.
    Against: Australia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Cameroon, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Republic of Korea, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
    Abstaining: Canada
    So, as you can see in favour of the resolution we have all of the world counties which stand in the front line fighting for human rights, esp' of their own citizens, and against the resolution we have a list of the world's biggest consciousless criminal countries known for their everyday violations of human rights, and this is why they rejected this kind of fair and unbiased resolution, just to protect another criminal friend .... ;)

    2) Given this one-sided mandate, many were mystified when Goldstone agreed to head up the probe. Lets not forget that in 1980 Goldstone accepted the racist South African government's offer of a Transvaal Supreme Court judgeship (the juristic arm of the apartheid). He later claimed that it was "the most difficult decision of his career". When South Africa was on transit to a democracy he was offered a place in the Constitutional Court in South Africa. But errrrr oops, the human rights warrior declined the offer, and preferred instead to start working for the War Crimes Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. Also for the latter case, in an interview I found with the "The Human Rights Brief" he said, quote: "It was a difficult decision". Allow to me guess that in one not too distant day, judge Goldstone will say that accepting the job of leading this disgraceful mission was "a difficult decision" :D (source1, source2, source3)

    so now that we saw who are the real protectors of human rights in the world...let examine another one
    3) Before Goldstone, former UN high commissioner for human rights Mary Robinson was offered by the UN to head this mission. She declined the job, describing the council as "......guided not by human rights, but by politics" and specifically citing the resolution's exclusive focus on Israel (source1 (full robinson quote) source2)

    4)Due to its one-sided nature, Israel boycotted the Goldstone mission. Israeli officials and soldiers were not allowed to cooperate with it. Israel have co-operated with previous such UN inquiries, where the Truth and not politics were the real goals of the missions. This include for example the "jenin massacre" mission, which declared crystal clear that the Palestinian allegations of a deliberate massacre are One Thousand and One Nights.
    Therefore, all of the content of the report of this "fact finding mission" is just the writing down of Palestinian allegations on paper without any interaction with the other side. The members of the committee were not present in Gaza during or before the fightings, and didn't get to hear the other side. They don't even speak any of the local languages. I simply DO NOT understand how could they possibly for each specific event tell truth from fiction?.......?

    5) The UN mandate for the Goldstone mission was required to file its report by the end of September. But hmmm...the report was already finished two weeks before that and released just 3 days ahead of the UN general assembly. Coincidence? depends on who you ask

    6) As PM Netanyahu pointed out today in his exciting speech in the UN, from 2001 to 2009 there were 8,600 rockets and mortars fired from Gaza at Israeli civilians. The rocket amount increased ten-fold after the withdrawal of the IDF and the settlers from Gaza. From 2001 to 2009, targeting the Israeli civilians by the Hamas did not earn any denouncement or even a reference in a UN resolution. I don't like Netanyahu but when he stood there on the podium and said (in a much more "refined" diplomatic language): "the UN is a joke on humanity and its resolutions are not worth the paper they are written on", I could not prevent the wide smile from spreading all over my face. looking at all those creeps there and telling them in the face: "you have no shame? are you with Israel, or with the terrorists??" ! He is my man!!...

    Goldstone just did the job for those who paid his salary, delivering them what they expected him to deliver.

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    Side comment for point (4):
    I think that despite all of the above, Israel should not have boycotted the "facts finding" mission. Israel's lack of cooperation was interpreted as admittance of guilt. It was a stupid, untypical mistake. This time we should have behaved against any principle of self-respect, humiliate ourself and co-operated with the tainted committee.
    Unlike the arabs, our goal is to survive, and not just have foolish pride, and to achieve this hard goal of maintaining the existence of our democratic liberal oasis in this desert of backwardness called the ME, we have to continue to outsmart them, and not to think like them.
    Instead of boycotting the committee, Israel should have bombarded Goldstone with the overwhelming amount of evidence gathered during the operation, proving that it was Hamas who committed crimes against the Palestinian people, in accordance with his tradition:
    Here is a drop in the ocean:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhs9ihSmbU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LGubwghyEw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uOug-mN3Tw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vHDyuSTneA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI1q3etFX2k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sznMP3dnCg
    (look at the magic of the UAVs, Israeli-made, I took part in the development of some of these incredible machines *proud*)
    It takes no more than two brain cells to understand that without abusing the civilian population and hiding behind it, the Hamas wouldn't stand a chance against the IDF and in especially not require 21 days of battle! The fire powers are so unmatched in this David vs. Goliath case. If Israel and Hamas were fighting in a "civilian-free" region, as Israel called Hamas to do (and smsed and called the civilians to leave but the Hamas just wouldn't let them), Israel would have crushed even 10,000 Hamas warriors in 10 minutes. You don't have to have a fancy military education to understand this kind of ABC! If the Israeli Airplanes/Tanks/Soldiers don't have to think twice before they hit the trigger ("is this one from the good or bad guys?"), the area with the terrorists is flatten, and the game is over in 10 minutes!
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    This reports brings the UN back to its dark ages. It is not much better than the denouncement of the Israeli attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor built by Saddam Hussein, aka biggest murderer of muslims in human history. Because of the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi reactor a country called "Kuwait" still exists today (oh.. and they didn't bother to thank us, instead they continue educate for jew-hatred like the rest of the Arab world. Naturally, they denounced the bombing as well...). It is not better than the UN resolution equating Israel and Racism either (My god). The Goldstone report is a shame for "international law" or whatever is left of this meaningless term. And worst of all: effectively meaning that terrorizing civilians with 8,600 rockets can pay off, this report is a legitimization and a reward for the terror.
     
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  9. robjones

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    #29
    ROFL. Holy shit, this thread should be taken out and shot.


    Oh well... my general opinion is that the UN is NOT the lapdog of the US. I see it more as the pet rat we shouldve told the kids not to bring in the house. It is a nuisance and frankly most of delegates are either spies here for surveillance, criminals that'd be kicked outta the country if not for diplomatic immunity, and assholes thatre here so they arent bothering anyone in their own country.

    The reason some think the UN is our lapdog is that we, like the other founders, have a veto. The founders were the major powers on the winning side in WW2, plus France, who skated in on political correctness and somebody's inability to explain to DeGualle that not only did France NOT win the war, they'd capitulated about 10 minutes after the Germans gassed up the first Panzer. They'd be speaking German now without our intervention, but they find it fashionable to hate us except when someone is rolling across their border in tanks. Probably the hate has something to do with California having their own wine industry.

    Anyway, the only certainty about the UN is that with any issue more important than changing out the wallpaper in the reception area, at least one founder will exercise a veto. The silly powerless little delegates bluster around in the UN passing resolutions against us, then remember that without us to enforce 'em they're pretty much just paper and a neat videotape for the guys back home. So they ship the video home with a t-shirt commemorating that they are "standing up to the Great Satan". Then they leave the building and practice breaking our laws and then flashing a diplomatic passport. UN Delegates are clowns, only in worse suits and without the neat haircuts.

    Example of why they are useless? Before we went after Saddam the UN had passed enough resolutions against that bozo that if we'd dropped all of them on Bagdad, the damned things wouldve been as effective as our first day of bombing there. That'd be when we finally gave up waiting for the twits in other countries (hello, UN?) to do something about the asshole, who people seem to forget was having his weakass jets fire missiles at our pilots in the "no fly zone" the UN created, we were enforcing, and he was violating.

    [Oh, and guess who was selling him parts for those weakass jets shooting at us? Hint... they speak French and have a veto in the UN]

    Frankly I don't think the UN is worth a bucket of warm spit. They need to disband it and make the place a shopping mall, gay bar, disco, or something else with a modicum of usefulness. A resort for loser diplomats & foreign intelligence agents isnt doing the trick. All IMO. I'm one of those noisy arrogant Americans you guys love to hate... and frankly I could care less. Go build a UN in your country and supply the military might for it and you'll despise them too.
     
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  10. LogicFlux

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    #30
    Welcome back, Chaos. :D
     
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  11. iggysick

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    #31
    Yes, you do. Keep crying as much as you please too.

    Yup, DP moderation suck us indeed. Otherwise you wouldn't be here in first place.
     
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    #32
    group bent on killing? what does that mean to you ?

    may be the egos of zionits and necons like you get killed when you are shown the mirror as otherwise you will try to downplay most absurd of things in 'freedom of speech'
    and I said
    abortion is just an example, if you don't like it than take another, there is a long list of hate groups

    how do you find the Islam hate groups ? they must be falling within the 'freedom of speech' thing and anything anti-you must be banned
    ( mia also wishes same for this board)
    and no problem you can throw personal insults, as this is all you are good at





    @chaos
    and it is no surprise that you find all the countries who vote on something against isreal as
    consciousless criminal

    do I need to say more ?

    let us see , once again those who are these criminals that have dared to question the chosen ones



    Angola,
    Argentina,
    Azerbaijan,
    Bahrain,
    Bangladesh,
    Bolivia,
    Brazil,
    Burkina Faso,
    Chile,
    China,
    Cuba, Djibouti,
    Egypt,
    Gabon,
    Ghana,
    India,
    Indonesia,
    Jordan,
    Madagascar,
    Malaysia,
    Mauritius,
    Mexico,
    Nicaragua,
    Nigeria,
    Pakistan,
    Philippines,
    Qatar,
    Russian Federation,
    Saudi Arabia,
    Senegal,
    South Africa,
    Uruguay,
    Zambia.

    oh that is quite a long list!
     
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    #33
    Seriously, you need to take English again, because you are really not getting it. You are arguing with yourself because what you think I wrote versus what I wrote are different.

    Then you compare your hate group to an anti-abortion group... you really show your lack of cognitive skills. How can you compare the two and be taken serious? Do you not know what abortion is?
     
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    #34
    is it me or you ?
    do you also have some problem in reading? why the word abortion has started giving you constipation ?

    didn't I mention twice that abortion group was an example?
    but you are deliberately ignoring the whole point of my post that how come trechcruch zionist wants FB to only ban anti-isreal groups while failing to mention other hate groups including anti-isalm groups
     
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  15. Mia

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    #35
    I sometimes wonder if these people run their posts through and Engrish generator.

    Maybe we're just mis-understanding what he and others like him are saying? I think a lot gets lost in the translation. :rolleyes:
     
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    #36

    It is not the English which is causing you problems, in fact you are having a hard time digesting (constipation?) the truth

    frankly I feel sorry for you, you have fallen so low that now you have to attack my language to show your bigotry,prejudice and racism

    but you can keep the insults coming. we know this is all that you can do :)
     
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    #37
    Are you joking????

    He is serious as so am I. It is lost is the translation. You are not comprehending what I write and it is obvious. It is like your sentence with constipation - it really doesn't work in our language.

    Typical... cry racism or bigotry... boo hoo waa waaa waaaaa

    Grow up some. Realize that there are language barriers at times.
     
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    #38

    interestingly you again forgot to address the point that we were discussing

    have a look again at what I said to YOU

    why abortion is stuck in your a$$ ? (clear now?)

    didn't I mention twice that abortion group was an example?
    but you are deliberately ignoring the whole point of my post that how come trechcruch zionist wants FB to only ban anti-isreal groups while failing to mention other hate groups including anti-isalm groups



    there are no language barriers, everyone understands the language of 'love'
    but yes, some people do try to fool around , when their foolishness has been exposed
     
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    #39
    Dear new, your English is pretty good, all you are writing is very good spelled and is good grammatically. Could you please answer one question: why you write Israel every time you mention it beginning from lower case, while Palestinians, Hamas, Islam, UN and so on from capital letters? You are very careful about that in every your posts. What and why you are trying to show this way?
    Thank you.
     
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    #40
    Good question. I'd be interested in the answer as well.
     
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