Is it better to think with morals or religion?

I don't believe in religion and see it as something that was developed hundreds of years ago because people were scared of afterlife.

Religion tells us where we're going but not where we came from:

People are scared of afterlife because they don't know what it is and this comforts them to know if they devote their lives they will live in eternal bliss.

However people don't question why religion doesn't tell us where we came from before we were alive? If there was nothing before our lives then why should we believe in an afterlife?

That's my thought on religion anyway and explains why I think with morals instead of religious views.

 

Thinking religion more than morals can get a person caught up in a ferver. Althought moral thinking suggests a level headed approach that does not necessarily go towards level headed thinking.

 

What kind of question is this. Religion IS morals. How can you have morals without religion or the other way around?

 

You just answered your own question... if you see religion as morals then your answer is religion.

Where as I don't believe in religion and I believe morals.

I know how to act in society without reading a book telling me how I should act by following "commandments" etc ...

 

It's clear that the OP is bias. However, just a little food for thought. If you can't go to your God and get the appropriate answer, perhaps you're serving the wrong God.

 

When religious people say, "How can you have morals without religion?!" it always makes wonder, if it were not for them having religion, would they be out killing, looting, and pillaging?

 

Creating your own personal moral system is good, but not outsourcing that duty to a religion.

 

Didn't they do that even when they had religion?

 

Leaders used religion to scare and control uneducated people. If you can use your own brain and think for yourself then you don't need religion.

What is moral depends on each individual, there is no general rule.

 

I'd rather have my Conscience guide me! The notion of morality and religion have been created by us humans.

 

I kind of see morals as how you believe you should act so it kind of is my concious.

 

Morality is innate in nature.

Morality is the cheetah being full from the gazelle he devoured earlier, seeing a herd of gazelle running by, and having the decency NOT to attack other life when his own life is not in danger.

Much of the time those attacking religion are as childish as those defending it.

Oh wow, you're against religion because it was made to give people hope.
That's the most idiotic basis of disliking something I've ever heard of.

Oh wow, you're for religion because without that we are soulless creatures.
Humans do things that our barbaric animal cousins wouldn't DREAM of doing. We torture and rape and pillage, the animal world kills for continuation, not for the sake of removing life.

Morality is all around you, and you knew right from wrong when you were a child.

You just choose to ignore it.

If you'd live how you knew you should, selflessly and without an ego; not only would you fulfill the true essence of every single religion and philosophy in the world, Luciferianism included (Don't even get into satanism, i'll spank you with how Lucifer=Christ=Energies within you)

 

What about cats bringing prey mice as gifts? There are many instances where animals kill but don't eat their prey.

If death is good in religion then why do we mourn death and why not just kill ourselves to get to heaven faster.

If life is found on another planet (or bacteria in outerspace) then how would religion explain this.

If we found inteligent life forms years ahead of us who had figured out the meaning of life then would they still believei in religion and if they didn't would we still.

 

The animal is hunting for you. It knows that you feed and take care of it, and as appreciation, would like to return the favor.

The only right to kill is for self defense (for food is included in this; self preservation). If you press upon another, you are immediately at fault. The one who attacks the Self is at fault; there is nothing that can defend you from your ego except for your Will.

We mourn deaths because we are foolish. The sinless return to sinlessness. Our egos mourn egos that have left us, egos that have learned to control themselves and do good for others instead of focusing on immediate self gratification; funerals are supposed to be celebrations of the true Self of the individual.

This is my favorite.

Those that attack religion are those that understand it the least.

Especially the Atheists who use organized religions' example of God as proof God doesn't exist is the exact same thing as using Disney movies to prove Mickey Mouse isn't a real mouse.

It is nothing but ego to think you've "discovered" the "flaw" in religion. Everyone knows that the myths are FICTIONAL stories; but there are 7 levels of meaning to each symbol, to each myth.

How silly it is to waste your life trying to disprove a story intended to fool initiates of religions in his exact way...

From the Holy Script Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."

If our creators were singular, that's not what they would say.

The Elohim, collection of 'gods'/angels/creator spirits; you are a part of them.

The Nephilim, the men of greatness, we create them with our egos once we comprehend the mysteries of nature and the nature of the Infinite.

Magic doesn't exist, but we are sorcerers. By putting together the holy musical notes into words, we illicit chemical responses in the brains of others. By simply saying "hate," you trigger the fight/flight and adrenal responses.

You realize that the most secretive part of the Vatican is their Astronomy and UFO departments. There are reasons for this explained in the holy texts.

Life only comes from life. There are scientists who are trying to show how this is not true, but that is going against the scientific DISPROVAL that ethers, mystical particles of "life", enter inanimate objects and create life.

Modern science is pure ego built on the idea that the flawed machines we create to observe the universe are infallible. Modern science goes conclusion first, then conduct experiments around that. This is why eggs are good for you one week, bad the next.

Religion explains that you are the EXACT SAME THING as a being on one of the stars you gaze at on a clear night that is also gazing from its planet right back at you.

There is nothing that separates us; physics is even proving this.

The universe is cyclic; physics has just caught up with this.

Randomness doesn't exist; there is quantum and only quantum.

Religion has known this forever.
Those kids that get high and ponder about bullshit are the true religious followers.

It is perfectly important to question, ONLY IF your questions do not carry conclusions in themselves and you're willing to accept what you once held to be totally fictional.

The only religion is to do unto others as you would have done unto you; conserve energy, perpetuate the universe. Every sin is something that reduces usable energy in a closed-system universe, and this SHORTENS THE LIFESPAN OF THE UNIVERSE. THIS IS THE MEANING OF SIN.

All know this; there is no name of this, no organization or temple built of mortar and clay that represent this.

Go sit under a tree and thank it for the shade it's given you, and wish it well on it's continued development.

Act like God, be totally selfless, be a herald and guardian of all that you see around you.

But remember, once you become conscious of all this...the standard to which you are held is superior to those or ordinary people. Once you no longer have doubt, once you no longer need "faith" and have seen God and understand what it is you are here to do, you are no longer "human." At that point you develop into the LITERAL biblical meaning of lower level angel or demon depending on how you use your energy.

Beautiful existence we have

 

"If the soul is immortal and from God, it must be at least part God. And since God is perfect, the soul must be perfect. Hence, re-incarnation theories – in whatever context – do not hold up to scrutiny because improvement in one’s soul at each go-around is baseless. The soul is already perfect."

Flaws exist in religion because we created it, nothing we create is perfect.

 

There's perfection in anything if there is a single source from which all things come. It would be presumptuous to think we can completely remove that perfection from something we create.

That said, the definition of religion here needs to be better defined as either the organized structures of Jerusalem, Vatican, Mecca, etc or the beliefs behind them that unify all of them?

That is perfect. The Will to create is perfect, not the creation that is a result of it.

In regards to the quote

, yes and no.

The soul is perfect, but learning to control itself continuously through stages of increasing Free Will.

If proven worthy of the power during a life, it will get more.

The limitations we have on our free will is both a curse and blessing.
No we can't become invisible and mess with people, but because of that we do not have to adhere to those standards.

In the next life, if we prove we can use the energy given to us in this wisely, we will be able to do that which we cannot do now. We will be tempted then by even greater lusts. Succeed in that and move onto the next step.

The soul itself though is perfect, blameless, and the direct connection with God; the matter which the soul controls is not. We are bound to this matter; we are beasts that have recognized our connection with the One and want to continue reducing the matter clouding our light so we can truly be free.

 

Morals are important in life and religion is man made. people measure faith and religion in the same beam balance which they should not do. you believe in God and that's your faith, you believe in the teachings of Christ and that's your faith and you follow the bible and other holy books out of our faith rather than the religious inclinations. but many do follow God from religion complications and they are more inclined to take religion as a ritual and there by not successful spiritually.

 

I voted morals, as not everyone can have the same religious views, but morals are often things which are present in any society, no matter what its religion is, such as dont steal, dont kill, etc.
Morals can normally be summed up into "Treat others like you want to be treated".

And also I dont think that having religion dictate you what to do is necessary in order to have morality. If this wasnt true, wouldnt countries which have a low rate of religious practice, such as Japan, China, Sweden, etc have people running around murdering, pillaging, etc ??

 

Of course you can have morals without religion. In fact, even most religious people disregard a lot of what their little books instruct them to do in favour of what they have decided to be moral.

even when religions appear to have what we would call "morals" they are simply saying what everyone knew to be right long before the book was written. Like not murdering and stealing, civilisations had laws against it long before any religion mentioned it.

Religions get anything which could be considered "moral" from society, not the other way round.

 

Historically, there is no instance, no situation, no history of any long-standing stable civilization that did not have religion as a moral basis. None. Nada.

Religion provides the basic rules of community interaction so that people don't steal from and kill each other. Geez, anyone that has even the most basic understanding of behavioral psychology knows that!!!

'most religious people"????

I think that you are not being honest here. How in the world would you know what most religious people do???