All Google PageRank Is Fake

Discussion in 'Google' started by vitalous, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. #1
    How can I make such a statement?
    Simply because I know it to be true.

    How can this be true?
    By using the ‘scientific method’ I can proove it.

    The six steps of the scientific method (sciencebuddies.org) are:

    1. Ask questions:

    How reliable is Google PageRank? Could it be fake?

    2. Background research:

    Google alone owns the PageRank concept and alone controls its calculation.
    Google also alone owns and controls the Google Toolbar which displays the
    Google PageRank values. Therefore, when a Google PageRank value is
    displayed on the Google' Toolbar, Google alone is the author of, and soley
    responsible for, any value presented to us. This, as per license, is done
    with no third-party intervention.

    3. Construct hypothesis:

    Reportedly, Google PageRank can be spoofed allowing a false value to be
    displayed on Google's own toolbar. Apparantly, unscrupulous webmasters,
    SEOs, directory owners, and others can profit from these false values.

    4. Test hypothesis by experimentation:

    I myself and many of you have repeatedly verified that sites with a
    spoofed Google PageRank value will and do get uncontested display of this
    false and misleading value on Google's own toolbar. This false datum value
    is generated by Google-trademarked calculations, on Google-owned machines,
    then is transmitted directly to end-users for prominent display on
    Google-licensed utility programs, i.e. on the Google Toolbar.

    5. Analyze data and draw conclusions:

    It would seem that Google has made the decision to allow continued
    placement of the spoofed PageRank values on their own toolbar together
    with 'reportedly' true Google-calculated PageRank values, and has done
    so for quite some time. This alone makes the whole PageRank concept
    unreliable at the very least.

    But further, by not differenciating the calculated-to-be-true values from
    the known-by-all-to-be 'faked' values, any one Google PageRank value which
    is displayed to us may easily be considered a falsehood as well.

    Logic dictates that repeated mechanized output of falsehoods renders the
    machine itself as being 'false.' Therefore, the Google PageRank concept,
    its implementation, and its usage, can all be considered in general false.

    6. Communicate results:

    This article posting does just that.

    Full disclosure:

    The scientific method utilized above is incomplete. To be honest, I made
    two shortcuts, assumtions really, of which I have no concrete evidence
    or direct proof:

    1, that the Google powers-that-be know of this situation, and
    2, that Google could easily fix or rectify this situation.

    I estimate the probability of each to be truthful at over 99.44% and my
    reasoning here is quite simple. Google is a young and dynamic company,
    and as such I refuse to believe that no one in upper management knows of
    the ability to spoof a false value out of the PageRank system. There's
    just no way that every one of them could be that far 'out-of-touch' and
    still sucessfully run such a large company. The same could be said about
    fixing the system. I also refuse to accept that this spoofing cannot be
    easily fixed. Even if it couldn't be fixed, validity checks could be
    added to the existing system, either permanently, or temporarily until
    the sytem is re-written or replaced.

    On the other hand, they could just unplug the damn thing!

    Arguments:

    One might argue that since valid PageRank values are displayed most of
    the time, that its okay to keep using it just the way it is. That
    argument would be correct, and I'll even admit it.

    In summary:

    False Google PageRank values means the system itself may as well be
    considered false as well. Since anything false is also a lie, Google
    PageRank is indeed also a lie. And because any lie is also fake, all
    Google PageRank is indeed fake.

    All Google PageRank Is Fake.

    'All Google PageRank Is Fake' is part one of a three-part series.

    John
     
    vitalous, Sep 16, 2009 IP
  2. webcosmo

    webcosmo Notable Member

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    #2
    May be you could come up with a better idea:)
     
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  3. Kat

    Kat Member

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    #3
    Interesting look at page rank.
    However,
    You make one large error and contradict yourself.
    Your premise is ALL Google page rank is false.
    Yet, in your arguments, you state that "valid PageRank values are displayed most of the time"
    I would take that to mean that all page rank is not fake.

    :D
     
    Kat, Sep 16, 2009 IP
  4. banless

    banless Peon

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    #4
    This is a very strange theory. How in the world did you come up with this?
     
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  5. jamespv85

    jamespv85 Peon

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    #5
    Well if it's a fake, it's one of the most successful fake things so far on the Internet! ;)
     
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  6. World Class

    World Class Peon

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    #6
    If it is fake, Please remove your signature link and end the concept of making page rank.
     
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  7. xc06

    xc06 Notable Member

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    Pagerank is real only to Google. We see just one version of google toolbar.
     
    xc06, Sep 16, 2009 IP
  8. deccanbazaar.biz

    deccanbazaar.biz Banned

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    #8
    According to you google page rank is all fake.

    and hence proved!
     
    deccanbazaar.biz, Sep 16, 2009 IP
  9. gbancrig

    gbancrig Peon

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    #9
    Fake or not, it's still hard not to concern yourself with it.
     
    gbancrig, Sep 16, 2009 IP
  10. bhuvasona

    bhuvasona Guest

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    #10
    Yea to promote his site :)
     
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  11. Chancey

    Chancey Well-Known Member

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    #11
    I think that it is about time that you create your own search engine. From then on, try to convince to use it.

    When you have a lot of users then you could create your own page rank, LOL.
     
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  12. Legendary11

    Legendary11 Well-Known Member

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    #12
    your logic is... well... ermm.. wrong

    here:

    The true fact is that google page rank is not a recognised website authority within the browsers, all people and all websites therefore it is an illusion, and thus unreal, but influential.

    Besides we all like a good party trick.
     
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  13. teoxy

    teoxy Peon

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    #13
    nice way to promote your site... i wouldnt think of it. But you should have posted a press release to make some controversy... good luck though
     
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  14. Pixelrage

    Pixelrage Peon

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    #14
    Why does everyone care about page rank so much? It's such a dumb thing to waste your time on...
     
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    xeastx Active Member

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    #15
    If it's fake, why does your signature have anchor text? Lol.
     
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  16. tornado!

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    #16
    A wise man once told me that boobs and pagerank may be fake. Each require a simple squeeze to confirm. :D

    Seriously, spoofing pagerank is going to happen. But the truth is pagerank is real in most cases. You just have to know how to do a little research. Most places with high pagerank earned it while some bottom feeders try to make a buck off of buying domains in auction or spoofing PR.
     
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    dmvictoria Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Agreed, you just wasted a perfectly good press release.
     
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  18. Jinx3000

    Jinx3000 Well-Known Member

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    #18
    too much time obv
     
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  19. kambing

    kambing Active Member

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    #19
    Maybe Yes, Maybe No..

    if it fake, everyone ( read : webmasters ) still loving PR
    from PR, we can make and got $$$$
     
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  20. newlogo

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    #20
    its not fake bcoz google give pr
     
    newlogo, Sep 16, 2009 IP