China’s Muslim Uyghurs Forbidden to Fast During Ramadan

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  1. Gooseman

    Gooseman Peon

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    #21
    I give up...:rolleyes: You win... :(

    There is no persecution of other religions in nations where muslims are the majority... What was I thinking???:eek:
     
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  2. new

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    #22
    There is persecution of minorities all over the world
    Muslims can't be singled out and blamed for it, they face the same treatment in west

    just yesterday there was protest in London against Mosque
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8251598.stm
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #23
    i searched for some video to see both side as like everything else truth lies somewhere in the middle
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBDMEYAd0g
    i wondered if you knew this. this was interesting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m733y6gPnA0&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JywjF_eiI&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuSlgLoQszk
    this also has some interesting things in it. like a church from first century
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1aopdeswGc&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkmHf3jZUo
     
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  4. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #24
    With Saudi Arabia, it's illegal to to even distribute bibles, it's probably one of the most religiously intolerant places in the entire world - perhaps as bad as china. Here's what they are teaching in their religious textbooks to children in Saudi Arabia, just to keep the hate going:
    As far as China forcing muslims to eat during ramadan, against their religious beliefs, I believe that's wrong as well.
     
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  5. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #25
    saudi arabian govt needs anything and everything to blame but themselves
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    we need better friends for sure
     
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    #26
    Or, In other words, persecutions, murder and deportation of christians and other religions by Muslims done all around the world every day, is just as bad as a demonstration against the building of a mosque at the heart of the united kingdom, one of the most important chistian nations....
    This is new's world. :confused:
     
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    #27
    Totally agree, not just regarding Saudi Arabia, but China as well. I'm boycotting anything and everything from China, forever. The latest news I read about China, they advised all their citizens that if they have more than one dog, or a dog over a certain size, that they need to kill their own dogs. The Chinese government is forming groups of people that beat dogs to death, and if they have to beat your dog to death, you will be fined by the government.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #28
    this is just crazy about the dogs. [​IMG]

    what can you buy that is not made of china?!
     
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    #29
    I just do my best, don't shop at walmart, and read the label on everything. Ironically, even many dog toys and dog treats are made in China, yet it's fairly common to skin dogs for their fur and eat dog meat there. The culture may change eventually - I think a lot of the younger generation in China don't like this custom.

    Muslims should boycott China as well...
     
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    #30
    i got a rep that i would like to answer here. a question was put as to why i do not blame people that do the bad things as oppose to blame the west.
    first of all i do not blame but look for a solution to the problem.
    if one is looking to make a change and not just complain then he/she should try to change the things that are easier to change. one should ask the people that agrees with him to help make these changes. there is no point in asking the saudi govt to change. it is like trying to push a wall. but asking americans and europeans to withdraw support is more doable and has a much better chance of success in ultimately changing the saudi govt. i hope this explains my approach.[like it happened in south africa]
     
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    #31
    i do the same thing in regard to oil. don't own a car. rarely use AC and try to conserve energy whenever i can. i hate the people that drive SUV in the city. one person in a gas guzzler, just stupid if you ask me. i wish they would tax these cars out of the road. i think city should charge a $30 toll for a SUV to come to the city with one passenger.
     
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    #32
    Right now, not driving is not an option for me. It takes me about 45 minutes to drive to work, and then the same on the trip home. With the economy the way it is, I really don't want to search for a new job, so that's just the way it is. I tried riding the bus before, but it took several hours each way, and the last time I took it, I was robbed - it was really scary. Eventually, I would like to earn enough to work at home - I would probably be happy just being a hermit, sitting at home, and would hardly drive anywhere. I better go work on my blogs, so I can eventually join you in the oil boycott.:)
     
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    #33
    i take the subway 45 minutes to an hour each way. i read the news the whole time and don't mind it at all.
     
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    #34
    OK, i know I said I wasn't gonna post here but I just have to.

    Listen, Muslims are divided into sooooo many groups that it isn't even funny anymore. Each and every group has its own belief, its kinda messed up. The reason why Muslims get pumped up so easily is because one group does something stupid and all muslims are blamed for it. Not even international media distinguishes which group did what, they just put headlines such as 'Terrorist attack by Muslims......' etc etc...

    As for Talibans (all suicide bombing crap), they are a group of their own. I can't remember but there is a very popular religious politician in Pakistan (*cough* *cough*) who teaches talibans how to blow up and stuff and how west is so bad. Ironically, his own children are studying in US universities. Well, everyone is greedy.

    Sorry, i'm no professional to give a huge breefing. If one is interested, please do look into which group Taliban falls under, I don't wanna point fingers. Please don't blame all Muslims for what only one group believes in. Muslim groups within themselves hate each other enough. I hope this solves some misunderstandings.

    Although, I was born in Pakistan, lived their for my first 8 years. Moved to Canada since then and been visiting back ever since. I had no experience with people with other religions being targeted, not in the area where I lived in at least.

    I hope i'm not provoked to post here again. Sorry for any spelling mistakes, lol ;)

    -Thanks
     
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  15. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #35

    Your post is very much appreciated. I think more people like you need to keep isolating the few people who are giving all Muslims a bad name. Every Muslim I have ever met has been a wonderful person who is nothing like the Muslims I see committing horrible acts of violence (mainly against other Muslims). I just wish Muslims themselves would do a better job of clarifying who is perpetrating what thought and what beliefs so that all Muslims are not assumed to behave in the same ways that one small group of Muslims act.
     
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    #36
    yet, you chose to support mass murder of Muslims.
    be it in Afghanistan , Iraq, Palestine

    and chose to ignore the all the dirty politics and games which have been played on Muslims by cia, neocons and zionists in past 60 years, toppling of govts, murder of popular leaders, coups and what not

    This is so cute, how innocent you want to appear with that

    Yes, You want Muslims to fight within themselves , just like in iraq the sectarian violence was fulled and exploited by US
     
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  17. justinlorder

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    #37
    So what are you trying to say ?
    Do you mean China should be seperated into pieces and countries, just like what you did to other countries .
     
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    #38
    An absurd post for your 666th post here. I have no problem whatsoever with Muslims.

    Here are the people I have a problem with:

    1. People who tell me to covert or die.
    2. People who tell me that they will try to convert me by force.
    3. People who think their God commands them to fight me.
    4. People who think their God authorizes the killing of people who leave the faith.
    5. People who think marriage or sex with a girl under the age of 12 is appropriate under any circumstance. (personally I think a much higher age is appropriate but I used a young age purposely to cover only the real sickos)
    6. People who think it is okay to give women fewer rights than men. This is in all aspects of life.
    7. People who think their God is right and that they can tell other people what to do.
    8. People who believe in any God who hates other religions.
    9. People who believe in any God who is intolerant.
    10. People who hate other people because of a book.
    11. People who hate other religions because of a book.
    12. People who think they are superior to other people.
    13. People who try to get others to convert to their religion.

    I am sure there are many more, but that is a start for you...
     
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    #39
    how conveniently
    You again forgot to have a look in your own backyard

    further, right now rather than Muslims it has USA and zionists who are following

    People who think what it is them who chose what is right and that they can tell other people what to do.
    People who think they are superior to other people
    People who want to force their own way of life on others
    People who want to force others that what laws should be formed
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    That list does not refer just to Muslims, it refers to assholes of all religions. :)
     
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