DmoZ

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by crunchy2001, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. #1
    HI all, As I am new to this I have heard that DMOZ is one of the best places to get your site list. Is is possible that any of you out there can help with this. What is best practise for this site.
     
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  2. tcyonline

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    Hello crunchy2001,
    It's true that dmoz is the best place to get your site list.
    Before submitting any url please read the link and follow guidelines carefully otherwise your website will not be listed.
    http://www.dmoz.org/add.html
     
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  3. caprichoso

    caprichoso Well-Known Member

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    Crunchy dear, all you have to do is read a couple of threads in this forum to learn that DMOZ is far from being the best anything. Being listed there won't give you much traffic (as many people with sites listed there said). And won't significantly change your pagerank in google nor any other search engine.

    Furthermore, DMOZ traffic keeps falling down for the last eight years. And most categories are abandoned and full of out-dated sites. Other categories are run by corrupt editors who won't let you in if you compete with their sites.

    Finally, you can submit but don't put much hope in it.
     
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  4. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    that's totally wrong :) if you are looking half of hour deep on dmoz you will find sites witch aren't following any of those '' guidelines '' , so the way how they are adding sites here are totally '' not understood '' by loads of peoples including me . Those guidelines if was respected an important number of the sites listed here have no place so far ... still they are here and doing what they can better :D
     
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  5. makecashnow

    makecashnow Peon

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    It takes forever to get listed there and they never tell you if you get accepted or not. I hear its taking as much as a year to get in.
     
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    Sometimes more than a year. Depends when a volunteer editor chooses to build that category using the suggestions. It is right to suggest and forget and there is nothing more than anyone can do after suggesting the site to promote a listing.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Not all editors use the submission pool... so there is a chance that a suggestion will NEVER be looked at.

    By promoting the site in other ways is the BEST promotion for a listing, as many editors do not bother with the suggestions at all and find their sites to list by other means (such as sig links, forum posts, blogs, phonebooks, billboards, search engines, etc...) so your post is a half truth at best!
     
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    You are right Q, my intention was to say that there is nothing more at dmoz that could be done to promote the site. As you know continually suggesting can be seen as spam and also some editors, I usually do this, when looking at the suggestions pool do look at the oldest first, and offering a site again overwrites the first and puts a new date stamp on the suggestion. Neither do I list sites simply because someone draws the site to my attention in a forum by asking a question about why it has not been listed or whatever.
     
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  9. peppy

    peppy Active Member

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    Everything about this is true except the part about not getting pagerank. The ONLY good thing about getting listed in DMOZ your link appears in the Google directory. The Google directory is just a "clone" of DMOZ and if they stopped doing it this way, DMOZ would be essentially useless.

    The only thing that matters is getting into the Google directory, then you get lots of benefits and it's a MUCH easier battle implementing your SEO and getting to the top of the Google search rankings.

    Other than that, everything else about DMOZ is aweful: the quality, the rampant link rot (linking sites that no longer exist or are not relevant to categories), almost zero traffic except from other webmasters and editors clicking your links. Editors will even refuse to list your site just because they don't like you or agree with your arguments, no matter how great of quality your site is.

    If you are thinking that it doesn't make sense why Google would use them, you are perfectly right, it doesn't make sense that Google would choose to use their own directory as a "clone" of an extremely broken down low quality mess.
     
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    But how much pagerank? My sites' home page have currently a pagerank of 4. Will them change if added to DMOZ?
    Will it be different from any other link?
     
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  11. alsatech

    alsatech Peon

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    When it comes to dmoz you have 2 choices
    First: forget dmoz
    Second: submit your site and then forget dmoz because if you’re lucky, you will be listed in one year from now on the same day you are mulling over renewal of your domain for another year or dropping site you had lost all interest 11 months ago

    :D
     
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    Yeah, I pretty much gave up after 2 years...I will just stick with blogging and free advertising in different forums...
     
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    Many years ago DMOZ was a quality directory with a noble cause. IMHO, that is no longer true. I am the majority owner of two different businesses in the same industry. One is more active in system sales. The other is more active in system rentals. There are about 15 companies in my category. Neither of my sites are listed. There have been no changes to the category in 6 years even though at least a dozen companies have entered the industry.

    It's too bad really. But then again, who uses a directory anymore? It's time is passed. (IMO)

    /*tom*/
     
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    jose Well-Known Member

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    You may simply write : The Google directory is just a pure duplicate content of DMOZ.

    You are right about DMOZ, excepted for webmasters. Even Google directory has probably a very limited direct traffic, since google gradually put it at the bottom of its services basket (about 6/7 years ago, the directory was at about the same level in the basket as the keywords search engine)

    However, thematic directories have still amount of direct users.

    On the other hand, both general and thematic directories appears in the results pages of the search engines. I am convinced that the bulk of visitors to the google directory come from SERPs.
     
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  15. alsatech

    alsatech Peon

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    LOL man, you forgot to mention the most favorite places for links collection,
    public washrooms and bus stops shacks followed by etc.

    :D
     
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  16. crunchy2001

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    HI All and thanks for the help. I guess what you are saying is not too really bother about the site as I would be waste time and may not really help at all!!!!
     
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    Gee... another coincidence? :p
    "Alsatech"... the poster that seemingly exists solely to bump Fastreplies threads (including one 9 months old), rescue Fastreplies from other posters (4 times), praise his Amray directory, salute Fast's "integrity", and say he 'likes his style'... all in less than 30 posts (?!)... just used another of Fastreplies' standard putdowns:

    Fast's version here (1):
    "Please keep in mind information you picked up from Public Washroom walls doesn't count."

    Fast's version here (2):
    "Lots of stuff listed on walls of public washrooms... I'm not sure if it does any good either"

    Fast at v7n:
    "Google doesn't care if link to your site come from Yahoo or writting on the wall in some Public Washroom because G crawlers (bots) set to look for links and not where they are coming from."

    Alsatech version:
    "LOL man, you forgot to mention the most favorite places for links collection, public washrooms and bus stops shacks followed by etc.​

    Oddly in the entire history of DP only one other guy typed the words "Public Washroom" into the DP forum. Most say bathroom, men's room, washroom, restroom... but Fastreplies/Alsatech are joined in the history of DP by only 1 guy to type the phrase "Public Washroom", and our pair used it in the context of the same putdown.

    Don't you two find it crowded sitting in the same chair? :D
     
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  18. alsatech

    alsatech Peon

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    Oh boy, I knew I shouldn’t plagiarize and know man who apparently knows a lot about public washrooms cut me doing that. As some kind of an expert on that subject you should know that public washroom is linguistically correct description of such a place and if my being grammatically correct is all you have to build your case, then you just flashed your point dawn the drain.

    If you start making funny or making some sense posts, I promise, I will plagiarize them too.

    BTW, you’re highjacking this thread. If you have something to say to me, then as Rules of this forum prescribe, do it in PM and stop spamming thread that doesn’t belong to you.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    The question isnt is it correct, just whether it's odd that you "two" are apparently the only ones that use it. Of course if that was ALL I had to build the case I wouldn't have started with...
    Feel free to explain why almost every post you've made at DP was supporting the same directory or it's owner despite the fact that you only "discovered it" here in your 3rd (and one or two subsequent) posts. Rather interesting that you first discovered it in a 9 month old thread. [ You're quite the voracious reader. ] You've even said you submitted to that directory, yet in all your posts you've consistently plugged Amray without *once* mentioning your own site. That doesn't strike you as a bit outta the ordinary?

    Darn... first fastreplies alter ego named "ranter" gets booted from v7n forum ... now this. Rough week for duplicate IDs. ;)
     
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  20. titanium1357

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    It 's really hard to get submission in DmoZ. But i think you should try. Read guidelines carefully before you submit your website . That's a best advice i give you.
    Regard.
     
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