Geez, I am not a fan of DMOZ and everyone knows that but Amray to DMOZ in comparison ? Freaky Friday. A popularity maybe that stems from an honest desire to be at par rather than from the steely-eyed, I will-straight-up-cut-a-bitch-like-it's-the-commissary-line-in-women's-prison ambition of a thwarted ESPN announcer and Miss California also ran disqualified and ate a banana...... In other words...who gives a crap.
You can google "web directories" if you like. And DMOZ still not showing. And major directories appear for that query in the first page. dmoz just to the end of the second one.
1. Start by reading post I replied to 2. My point was: You don't have to be listed in DMOZ to do well in SERP 3. So is other 10,000 sites that try to use the same keywords, but AMRAY is the one on Page #1 So, what was your question again? fastreplies
Beside popularity, show me how DMOZ is more effective than AMRAY You can start with 4 links AMRAY gives site owners all of which included in Google's Index. How many backlinks your site is getting from DMOZ? fastreplies
Well it's more like an '' deceptive advertising '' for newbies ... once included on dmoz listings it's growing a little the value of the domain just because when the owner will looking to sell the domain will have to say something to the seller '' how to make this moron to buy my garbage '' you know ... it's '' something '' in plus what you can have like an extra point . Some traffic of course since loads of geeks monitor always the '' competition '' and of course will get some hits from that too ... but that's all That's false totally false .... if you need traffic you need to go up on serps , and dmoz will not push you here .... you need MORE , much more backlinks for that
Sadly, the ODP is not fully HUMAN... and I'm not just dissing the editors this time, lol. The Topix site has over 10,000 listings and NONE of them were added by a human, unless of course you count HUMAN as the guy that implemented the bot to automatically list them As for calculating a sites worth, more and more sites are dropping their ODP listing option, or keeping it but not applying an special modifiers for it. LOL... yeah, it's certainly worth the time it takes to submit. I know my listed sites have gotten like 5 visits each from the ODP! That's like a whole two more then the next directory I bothered submitting too..pretty good for 3 years isn't it? More traffic indeed!
All directory listings increase your relevance to google and there is a simple reason why if you spend that much time on resisting on all those service your site must have some valid content otherwise it would not been approved. And about Qryztufre's comment it is always easy to proof that something is not working but you have no tests to compare to as you do not know how you pagerank or alexa link would be like if you have not placed that link.
Ummm... I've not gotten ANY traffic from the Alexa clone of the ODP.... If you are referring to Alexa rank, then heh... yeah, I'm sure my occult site being close to the top 200K has something to do with the 5 visits I got from the ODP. as for page rank, I had a PR3 before I got listed, and for two years after the listing... so yeah, certainly effected that MANY MANY sites NOT listed in the ODP out rank the sites that are listed, so what proof is it you are actually seeking here? Oh, the glass is half full? Half Empty? heh... there are also many sites listed in the ODP that out rank sites NOT listed. Still isn't proof of anything other then maybe getting a listing does nothing but give food for internet forums like this one
And I don't want to know because I don't give a fakk what Alexa ranking or PR site has or might be if I placed one more or less link. I can show you sites with 10 backlinks and PR 5 and 600 backlinks with PR 3 Any good site depends on SEO and how Google sees it If you build SE Friendly site it will be noticed and promoted in SERP regardless how many backlinks that site has. Build high quality web site and backlinks will come to you without you're asking for any and vise verse sh*tty site nobody cares about will give you nothing but headache originated by stench of poop. fastreplies
DMOZ is not an automated directory so that one can understand the algorithm and cheat it. Its a manual directory where the website submitted will be checked by the manual editors and check the qualities of the site. Then if the site is approved based on their guidelines only they will place it in the category. Even if the site is good enough also, they should submit in the related category only, then only it will be easily identified by the editors and approved. The benefit is most of the search engines will look through it and index it which is very much useful in getting the good SERP.
If you look at sites that do not get a lot of movement, the rate at which they are indexed is VERY slow. This is the case with the ODP in many cases, as most of the categories have not been updated in MONTHS. This pretty much results in DMOZ being a HORRIBLE way to get your own site indexed... which is given proof by the fact that in most cases only your main page will be listed in the ODP, and chances are if you have not been indexed before you made it into the ODP you are already doing something HORRIBLY wrong As for getting good SERP, have you tried to see how many times your DMOZ listed site is listed in the SERP under ODP clones? If you are lucky it may pull up one or two... but in many cases you'll not find any... so if the clones are not making it into the SERP, what makes you think the listings on those clones are doing much to help? A link is a link is a link... it's worth the time to submit. It's worth the effort to try submitting to the rest of the free directories...but to submit with the hope of miracles, well... it would take a miracle for any one of those free directories to do much more then offer one or two visits over the next three years. The days of directories being the BEST way for SEO out left about two years ago...
Link age is one of the things google likes to see... more so it's said then being in a .gov or .edu, or rather, according to many those two domains are often "better" because of age rather then URL. DMOZ has been around for a looooong time, to have a link in it from the beginning is likely better then getting in there yesterday.
No one is sure what Google does... I'm just saying that many believe that link age is important in linkage
I see. But I guess it most probably they will take domain age into account. Let's say it would be better having a link from an ten years old domain than a two years old. Google could take into account the time they have the link registered in their DB. That could be.