Why the "prophet" Muhammad never learned the alphabet? Even fools know it ...

What is???
Who are you referring to??

 

TRUTH AND HONESTY ARE NOT IDEALS IN THE QURAN FOR ONE TO ASPIRE TO.

I know perfectly what are you talking about since I know at least 15 muslims from different muslim countries. Almost all of them feel comfartable lying. They just don't feel bad if they lie to somebody.

 

This will answer your doubt. Truth777 please, again I repeat please, watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Frb6uFYvU&feature=related

My dear friend, can you show me where did you took that statement from?

I learned Islam from reading Quran, I learned Christian from reading Bible.... And you learn form people.... Lame ..

I challenge you to get a Quran, sit down spend some time reading it. Unless you do so, don't pretend that you're smart enough to conclude things that you don't know.

Where did you get that source from? Let everybody read the whole picture.. You just so naive boy..

 

Did you read what Rebecca was replying to??? Spare us the pain. Please tell us what the Quran says about jesus's inability to read and write?

 

Some coward guy gave me rep with this message:

I don't think I should answer that without knowing who this coward person that sent me those message, really was. Don't you have balls. Come show yourself, be gentlemen and ask me those question yourself. Otherwise you're just no different that some bastards around here.

 

I didn't leave you negative feedback, in the few years I've been on DP, I've only left a negative about twice. You're not alone though, I got one last night. In another thread I managed to piss off both christians and muslims all in one fell swoop. My red rep said, "Eat on this, bitch!"

At any rate though, your response to me in this thread indicated you didn't even read my post. Someone had said jesus couldn't read, and I simply quoted religious text showing that was false. You can read it again here.

 

This dean show is very funny because it is selling Mohammed like a piece of jewelery on Shopping TV.
When I saw your movie I couldn't stop laughing at the beginning where the intro song was: "peace peace peace peace". I guess the Christians in Pakistan are not laughing either from the "peace peace peace" song.
You video reminded me of this: Religion on Shooping TV

I tried, but I stopped in the opening speech, Surah 2, when your book called me "evildoer with a sick mind" and a couple of more nice nicknames.

 

What? You want me again to bring up all the proofs just for you?

Sorry man I can't read for you. Don't you know that muhammad married his step son's wife? ISN'T THAT BREAKING UP SOMEBODY'S MARRIAGE UNION?

If you don't know that .... read the quran, I won't waste time on everyone here who don't want to put efforts to read.

He married a child you have to find that too in the quran ... sorry I won't do it for you

He killed people in the wars he was involved in. He was also responsible for the beheadings of young boys and the beheading of about 600 PRISNORS OF WAR all together. This is considered by the human sociaty these days as A WAR CRIME.

Since when a person responsible for these actions is called "most noble, merciful, compassionate"?




I watched the video you suggested and learned nothing new, sooooo boring.... wasted my time.
I would rather watch something about Indian Guru than read, listen or watch something similar again.

Only praises to muhammad .....

The proof he was a fake prophet is overhelming. You believe in whoever you like I'll do the same.

 

Huh.. as expected.. the same old lame answer.. you are just wasting my time boy.. go and read your comics and believe what ever you want to believe.. that would suits you better..

For us religion is not only about faith alone, but the faith only comes upon evidence & proof.. no other religion that could offer both.. except Islam. Study the whole book before making lots of lame questions & answers.. Otherwise you are just making a fool of yourself dude..

Thousands upon thousands of people are coming into Islam everyday. Nobody force them to do so, they just did one simple thing.. study the book.. and not letting them self fall into words from people like you..

 

huh.. show us which ayah, let everyone here knows and we could discuss that openly.. dont just wasting your bullets, shooting everywhere blindly.. grow up boy..

 

Don't worry that post was not meant for you then..

Well if I commented your post without looking into it deep enough, I apologize on that.. my comment was rather a general response to that particular statement your made..

 

"..... Thousands upon thousands of people are coming into Islam everyday..."

Born by 12-14 year old muslim girls..... who were sold by their parents to older men to settle personal debt or just to improve their finances.

BTW who wants his mother to be 12 year old? How much she can teach you? How much she knows about life? How many years she was in school? What is her inteligence level?

And what is the benefit of having 10 brothers and sisters when your parents can't give you enough care? Most muslims I know grew up IN THE STREETS. Why was that?

You may keep beating the drum that Islam is " DA BEST" but facts show that muslim countries are not among DA BEST in the world in Education, Democracy etc.

 

You should be well aware that who is producing more kiddy moms

It is not the Muslim societies, the teenager moms are coming from your own beloved western societies
That too without any bond of marriage
truth77 what do you say about this moral collapse of western society ?

 

I think you made a statement with no source and no proofs. I seriously doubt the west has more "kiddy moms" than the muslim societies.

It is sad though that young people engage in sexual activities so early. Education in schools on this matter must be greatly improved.

 

Curruption is everywhere, so forget that...

Back on topic, it was 1400 years ago. Arabia was almost completely ignorant.

You are right that God chooses the "Wise" but that time, the wise were the only ones who know to read and write, and those who keep making up scam schemes.

The prophet was chosen because from his childhood he tried to be honest. At the start of his adulthood he was named as the most honest and true person. People came to him for matters they wanted to ask/solve. God saw this, make him a prophet at the age of 40.

40 is not younghood. At the age of 40, the aging process begins. Like you cant tell a 40 year old man to learn PHP and start making cool softwares, the same way you cant teach a 40 year old man to learn something.

Still, the first commands revealed to Him as per what history tells us, it was the command to READ! to which He replied, He cant read but the angel (who ordered him to read) repeated. This incident shivered the Prophet (wat would happen to u if you saw a ghost which spoke to u, and u know it wasn't a dream).

So thinking why He never learned the Alphabet is because of the society. He was an orphan brought up by his uncle.

so as you quote: "Even fools know it ...", fools of this world know it. Wise men of the world 14 centuries ago knew it...



EDIT:
I read some above posts, saying where you stopped at surah 2 where you are called "evildoer with a sick mind", that is true, it WAS revealed. The people of that time were cruel, and passed death warnings to the prophet (to whom they previously called the most honest and true person, sent to have a blessing on them)
But after migration, and a few wars. Later Surahs cleared up the matter. If you read further, you would also find verses claiming to not make non-muslims ur friends either. But later it was revealed that not everyone was ur enemy. Call your enemy the one who calls u an enemy, aka the people involved in wars against you. If you know a non-muslims who is kind to u, does not judge you from your religion, you should not have any ill-fate against him/her.

 

how many sources and proves did you provide

your society is dying and collapsing, there is no family life, people dump their parents in old age home, kids don't listen to their parents, there are more and more single parents, gay couples, teenage pregnancies , women have just become a sex symbol, You have broken your relation with God, religion and spirituality have become limited to just Sunday church


The savior is Islam, Hence more and more people are converting to it, to seek Peace of Mind and the Truth of life

 

But people are also forgetting it. Many MANY people who call themselves muslims don't even know the basics.

Taking a well-known muslim country for an example, Pakistan, religion there is corrupted like hell. I know there are many muslims here from pakistan, which are likely to give me neg reps, but before you do giv, ask yoursef, am i not wrong? Well, maybe you are a good follower, are the people around u are?

Yes Pakistan was created for Muslims, in the name of Islam, by a Muslim leader...

Wait, did i just say a "muslim" leader? I'll just mention a small flaw (as others are those who no Pakistani here will believe) that he proposed his english friends daughter who was 16 at the time. Errr 16? It wasn't the old world, so age matters here. And she was a christian (well, marriage to a christian is allowed but wasn't he establishing a muslim state?). This proposal made his friend taken aback, it not only broke the friendship between them but he also forbade his daughter from meeting the leader.

Still, they used to meet secretly... Uhhh? secretly? A muslim leader meeting someone he shouldn't as per his religion? I see something wrong...

And once again, if you think abt leaving me loads of neg reps, i suggest you read the wikipedia of Muhammed Ali Jinnah

PS: sorry for getting way off-topic, but i just explained it to clear up the matter that corruption is present everywhere... Altho many people understand it and convert to it, many people don't know what it is...

PPS: I don't mean to flame ANY pakistani here. If you wish to make your country a better place, the start is from making yourself a better person and your society. I pray to God for peace in this world along with all religions

 

Was it like a contest? Who named him "most honest and true person"? I am curious, I had not heard about this before.

This is funny. I am not sure if you actually believe this or not. Many people learn much after the age of 40. If you think you stop learning at 40 then I feel very sorry for you.

 

Jinnah was never a hardcore Islamist or a religious scholar. He was a progressive leader who believed in western style democracy

And marrying a christan is no Sin, it is allowed in Islam , I don;t see any problem in it
and again , No human is angel (and love is bind ), He might have some flaws at the personal level, we should appreciate the good work which he did for Muslims

 

Yes, he did good getting a seperate country, but he should have had developed religious beliefs being such a big leader. Because of his marrying a christian (which is allowed), his daughter said "there were so many muslims girls, why didn't you marry a muslim?" and married a parsi follower (which is not allowed as per Islam?)

anyways, Pakistan is a completely different topic, we're talking about religions here