A little about me first and then I will jump into my main reason for posting this thread. I am currently working on developing a Vacation Rentals website and would like to eventually own and operate a massive amount of sites that I can use to retire with in the future. (But wait isn't that the goal/s of everyone here, NOPE!). So in short I want to establish something and make sure it last a long time and hopefully achieve steady growth which leads to the following question: To buy/use xRumer or not? I have been poking around and running my own little tests to see what is ultimately the best way to achieve SERP ranking. I have concluded that there is no one single answer to that question. Yes I know link building is a key factor but at the same time juicy unique content will also generate you traffic from search engine as I proved with my sex related blog. Simply by putting new content everyday I see my traffic and SERPs position increase almost immediately in the first 30 days. I am not saying I have 1 million hits a day but I do have 10 hits a day coming to a site with ZERO back links and no promotions. On the flip side I have promoted my vacation rentals website by doing a mix of blog comments, press release, forum posting, yahoo answers, article writing/submitting, unique blog content, social networking (i.e., Facebook, and Twitter, and Squidoo pages), and social network tagging (i.e. Digg submissions, and StumbleUpon submissions) using these things I was able to achieve Top 10 rankings for a keyword that has only 500,000 search results so a fairly less competitive keyword. Most of the back links that were made in promoting the second site were back links that lacked any relevance, which in most cases means it wasn't a travel/vacation related page that my back link was placed on. In in lieu my findings I belive that it is a mix between back links and unique content that will ge you ranked. So I wanna ask the Dp'ers of today what they feel about xRumer! A few questions that might be interesting to bring up is whether or not GBot,Ybot, BingBots know the difference between a xRumer left comment or not? Will running 1,000,000 xRumer blast on a new site ban the site from major search engines? Comparing xRummer "sign-up" blasts to Angela and Paul's Back link method. Which one will fair out the best? [I feel that they the xRum is very similiar to Angela/Pauls method because both sign up to a site (one manually one automatic) and create a profile with a back link to your site in it.] *** Newbie's read below and learn from experience: Also some DP'ers will say: "What PageRank (PR)..." well guess waht PageRank is Bull S**t if your talking in terms of SERPs, but if your taking in terms of markiting your web site to buyers on an internet forum such as this one then PR is going to play a very vital role. PR does not equate to SERPs directly period end of discussion. *** End of newbie's lesson *** Summing it all up what is your take on the xRumer back link building method? Is it worthless or is it worth looking into? Please don't hate on the Newbies, I migth still be considered a Newbie but hey we were all there at some time or other.
This is a rhetoric question Of course, xRumer, is a black hat tool Soon, or very soon you'll be out of search engines Gaining so much links in a very short period is a big mistake Also your host might suspend your site if they detect spamming things
I've heard this conversation a few times now. I suppose it is possible to get de indexed for building a million links in one go, but isn't it possible to use xrumor to build one hundred links per day? This would increase your serps very quickly without getting you penalised.
getting banned for building links is impossible, you might get sand boxed for few months but it will come back. otherwise anyone with xrumer would blast their competition sites to get them banned and take their serp place.
no, never use xrumer on a whitehat site, xrumer should only be used on black hat projects, if you want to build a quality, lasting long term project, then a few targeted forums links are better than the 1000's of spammy links that Xrumer will produce, most of the spam will be removed on moderated forums and if the forum is not moderated, your travel site will end up on a page full of hundreds of VIAGRA, Drugs and Pills black hat links, every page which has such links is automatically recognized by Google as a spammed page and it's link force will be nullified. don't waste your time. most people who buy xrumer know what to do with it, and i can assure they are not using it for some random spam posting, (at least not the guys who are actually making money with it )
vacation rentals is a tough search but black hat link spamming is never the answer unless you're a hardcore black hatter. and if youre in DP asking questions like this, then you're not, and the answer is always NO.
I think you guys have miss understood the point of this thread. I do not ever intend on using xRumer to build links to my vacation rentals site for that site we hired FunkyMario (had to plug in your services sorry). The argument that xRummer is a black hat method is very obvious to me, however the argument arises will G,Y,Bing ban you for link building on such a large scale? As far as the people who have responded that google will nullify the link force based on a page that is marked as spam... well xrumer has a url harvester that will harvest urls across the entire internet not necessarily producing spammy looking pages all the time. Now lets say that were true and all pages that xRumer's harvester would find are spammy... there is also the option of doing a "registration blast" or in other words Paul/Angel's method but automated. How does that fair in the eyes of the search engines? Even if the following was true: One blasts 100,000 of that only 10% actually go through leaving you with 10,000 profiles with targeted back links. And of that 10,000 10% were moderated and deleted, leaving you with 1,000 back links that will run between $25-40. Tell me if that doesn't sound interesting to us internet gurus?? Taking it a step further and to piece in a little info, xrumer comes built in with a spinning tool that will allow you to randomize the words and re-spin each posting making almost unlimited number of combination to make each page that you post your link on unique. I mean if the person doing the blasts for you sets everything up correctly or if you own xRumer and you take your time to set it up properly then you gave a golden egg in your hand in my opinion. Further more what if one was to implement this xrumer and direct it at a link wheel. One buys 200 domain names slaps them across a bunch of c class ip hosts, then runs link building to each one then blasts each one with content that links back to the main site that need all the juice. That was a quick rant as I am at work and need to actually focus on work rather the internet marketing.
xrumer doesn't work ! search google for xrumer, do a backlink check on nr2 (where xrumer orginates) nr3 king whatever. Check their backinks. This gives you an example if it works. It doenst, just 100 to 300 links at max, a big laugh if you hear 1 millions blast bla bla bla. Most of the links are no follow and without keyword. Most links are from pages full of spam. Did a blast through a guy here and an amazin 7 links showed up, no follow and from spam pages. For me xrumer doesn't works, just do your homework and do a backlink check on the domains promoting it. They all have done blast to promote their xrummer site and the results are poor. If their results are poor, what do you think your results will be.
sorry but, you failed doing your homework. some people fail to use xrumer to make money, they are the same people who sell crappy "xrumer blasts" because they have no clue how to use it to make real money. search google for: pretty much any kind of "made in chaina" product like: buy rolex / replica watches / replica handbags / replica bvlgari any kind of pharmacy/viagra any kind of mmorpg gold like: wow gold / eq2 gold / aoc gold in almost all the result pages 1-5 you going to see are xrumer blasted sites. with over 500,000 very obvious spam links. some of them are 3+ years old... they are not getting banned.
My offer, find me an operator that will deliver no links to pages full of spam, does deliver many links not 5-10 from a 100k blast. 5%-10% should be minimum. After the blast I will wait 3 weeks for the links to show up. analyse their quality follow no follow does the keyword stick and I will pay double the normal rate when they can achieve the targets. I will only pay when the targets are achieved.
Bbob, the point of me asking the question is not to help you find an operator it was an intelligent question from someone who was looking into using xRumer on a long term basis. You must first understand how xRumer harvester works and how each owner tweaks it to his/her best ability. I still stand on my point that xRumer does work it doesn't matter if your link is follow or nofollow. I am sorry to be a flamer but because you bought this nofollow/follow topic up I am convinced that you are new to SEO and have done very little reading in this topic. PageRank is the only factor being awarded when obtaining a dofollow link, which in my case is irrelevant cause I am talking about SERPs not PageRank. O and PR = BS
Justadam, again I keep repeating myself. Do a backlink check on some domains that promote xrumer and yes based on the links you will see they have done blast to promote their doamin. Check angela's page. You will see 10x more links from angela most good quality not full of spam. I reapet myself look at the xrumer links, most full of spam and just very litte. And again the only responce is that it looks like most people don't operate xrumer right. Well it almost looks like no one can run xrummer right. It's pure marketing we blast 100k or 1 millions links and than everyone thinks sure some even if it's 1% will stick. Really seems different. I still have to see a good example where I can check a blast where 1k of links can be seen through a backlink checker.
XRumer can be used in several different way to promote your site / blog or for the Serps. The majority of people Utilice a tool that makes use very poor who do not have to Offer XRumer account for learning curve that I classify as a university. I think more people use very little XRumer 100% Offer CAN do. All who buy XRumer do not know Explosions Thousands of forums, blogs ... Part one is being easier to handle in a tool. If they spend at the University of XRumer learning and much study in months and even years in testing. Sure will make money.
xRumer for one website in little competitive niche is waste of money. You have to build a bulk of domains in competitive niche, develop a strategy - Hot to not get caught by competitors and/or Google. And you must have some SEO experience and some time to learn from mistakes and some money to pay for mistakes.