What do you think about the relegion Islam(specialy non-muslims)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Aqeel Qureshi, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. clade

    clade Peon

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    #181
    Not necessarily, I said.

    Sugarcoat it all you want but it's time to call a spade what it is.
    At least for the sake of argument eh?

    America is not bombing Iraq? That's the furthest you can go from the truth. Bombs WERE used. Where? Iraq. Were civilians killed? YES.
    Were there weapons of mass destruction? NO.

    but that's an entirely different discussion by itself.

    Taking another man's life. and YES I'm comparing both cases. Try to open your mind. I'm not asking you to marry off your 9 y/o child, just consider situations that it might be justified.

    I know, so what gives you the right to dictate YOUR opinion upon others?

    In your country maybe. Stop being so ignorant and look at Africa, and all the other 3rd world countries.



    In some west coast street gangs, "in the box" is the only "way out".
     
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  2. ChaosTrivia

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    #182
    Thank you polite teen for your honesty.
    I think that its amazing to see somebody who can access the internet and at the same time believe that marriage of a 10 year old is not only acceptable, but also positive.
    I didn't understand what you said about the 20-50 marriages in western culture question I raised, but nevermind. its cool.

    To conclude I just hope that Islam will join judaism, hinduism, shikh, druze, scientologists, mormons, bahai, catholicism, buddhist, protestants, and ANY other religion on earth and ban marriages with 10 year olds, although mohammed did it. I
    'm sure that a modern interpretation can "explain" this terrible thing and make it suitable with the knowledge and sociology of the 21th century.

    "the glory of the family"..... :)
     
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  3. Polite teen

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    #183
    Escaping my question, :rolleyes:

    16 years old man (child in the west) was a leader of an army that goes to the Roman Empire.

    This child was great because of the touch of Mohammad, peace be upon him.

    Don't insult the Roman Empire, it was powerful and great, but the touch of Mohammad was more great and converted little things to Big ones.

    We can see now that Mohammad is the true Super Man, so all people love to stay with him.

    Super Man is for all people, and if you are super man, you should give a chance for children to enjoy you as well.

    Of course, pedofile are wicked and never instructive, you (due to your mental illness) doubt that. Thus you judge Mohammad the Instructive Human according to the image of one of your ancesstors.

    Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things. (40)

    Now back to the question,

    As a (so called) christian, can you explain what is your reference for what is right and what is wrong?
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #184
    You still don't get it do you?
     
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  5. Gooseman

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    #185
    Source please...
     
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  6. new

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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #187
    Ok, I'm officially out of this discussion on the Islam discussions. After Obama's praise, endorsement and embrace of Ramadamn and Islamic principles and ideals, I am sold. You guys win. I'm siding with my pres... Islam rules and the world is so much better because of it.

    Alah ach bar or whatever... Shizzle my fatwah jizzle, etc..:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Gooseman

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    #189
    Its your choice, you are free to Not take these words

    However for Muslims, What Quran Says is Final
     
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    #190
    It makes me laugh when the religious talk as though unquestioning obedience is a good thing.
     
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    #191
    Well... It not really a matter of choice but rather confusion. Personally, I don't pay much attention to the islamphobes on this forum and their (mostly) dumb arguments, however, I have always been astonished that so many people could follow a religion based on the ramblings on one man. George Bush said during his presidency that God talk to him. No one (normal) believes him. If mohammed was alive today no one would believe him either.
     
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  12. Polite teen

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    #192
    For example, if I came to the occupied Palistine (Israel) with my duaghter, I would search for a noble and handsom man and marry off my daughter for him so that when I die there, my daughter will be protected by her hasband.

    I don't prefere adoption, because I like my daughter to be mine and to carry my name and to be pride rather than a child.

    Of course, it need a noble man to understand me and accept her in that manner, and this is what I want, a noble merciful man.
     
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  13. Gooseman

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    #193
    What about what your daughter wants???? Tell me something, why do you think you need to marry her off in the first place? Why does she have to be married? In otherwords, what is the purpose or motive behind getting her married?
     
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  14. northpointaiki

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    #194
    Interesting, to me. Does anyone else not see a similarity, the kind of blissful language, slumber in an idealized dream?

    I recall reading medieval reportage, literally a kind of early journalism, on German peasants - the language used was very much the blissful language of children, when the universe was scripted, ordered and set in place by a divine agency acting in the minutae of daily life. Interesting, to me, the mind-process that takes place, how the language really shows their simple worldview, unaffected by life as it was (damned "nasty, brutish and short," in the case of the average German smallholder or peasant).

    Sadly, my interest stops at the door of human abuse, here and now, with monsters taking children into their bloody maw, to chew them up and spit them out as permanently damaged beings.
     
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    #195
    I got it. I've been raised to be pedo-friendly because I happen to be from a Muslim family.. damn me. It was never NATURAL for any man to like young women. All girls from all over the world have the same educational opportunity and will graduate college. They mature at the exact age of 18.

    Thank god for the fairness to all girls all across the globe. There was never child rape or little girls dying from starvation.

    I win. :D Allah hu ak'bar
     
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  16. northpointaiki

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    #196
    Alwiser - The issue isn't 18.

    By your own admission, you would wish those of us with a serious issue with this are to be considered "closed minded."

    The issue is believing it's right and good to have sex with children, aged 7-10. The issue is treating women and girls with less dignity than a head of cattle. The issue is whether this is systematically, institutionally justified by reliance on some asshole cleric who says it's okey-dokey, or by some piece of paper that says it's swell.

    Nice try, though.
     
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  17. Mia

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    #198
    Now I am sure you are the next SUPER MAN! When is your Jihad starting?

    hahaha..

    And now I start feeling sorry for you, and all those who think like you. Instead to light and prosperity you have been led to darkness. Look at Saudi Arabia or just about any other muslim country and the mentality of the people there .... just like yours.
    Still believing violence, brutality, "honor killing", child rape are OK.
     
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    #199
    I see. I think it's wrong for an adult to have sex with children aged 7-10.

    I also think that 16 is the perfect age of consent for females.
     
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    #200
    As long as it is her giving that consent not her father... :mad:
     
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