The day Israel used a boy aged 13 as a Human Shield

as usual browntwn and chaso you leave the issue to discuss the person, let us try to discuss the issue, are you both saying Zionism did not offer Nazism to collaborate with them?

 

ahh, so when Ben-Gurion said "Arabs in Palestine" he meant Saudi?

nope, I do not think so, cos he said:

 

why Saudi? not necessarily.
Saudi, Hashemi, Alawi, Syrian, Egyptian, Shabak, druze, bedouin, Christian arabs, aramaic, and all other tribes from which arabs immigrated to palestine.
It is zionism who made all these unrelated tribes unite and re-define themselves are "palestinians". This is the sad history imad.
Ironically, what defines "palestinians" is: the people who got screwed by the zionists. This is the only thing common to all palestinians. Not religion, not race, not origin, sometimes not even langauge. Nothing else!

Imad, meet reality:

50% of the "arabs of palestine", who lived in 1948 in "palestine", now "israel", immigrated in the previous 20 years to work for the british in building houses, railroads, etc'. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine#Demographics.2C_1920

Here, have an introductory reading about the history of your own people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#History . amazing.

Houston, we have a problem. Imad is HALLUCINTAING. S.O.S. Help him!

 

here we go again. more useless conversation.
you two[and your people] need to stop this. the key is not finding whose fault it is. this is a distraction. the issue is finding a compromise. all these symbolic things that you want is meaningless. it is time to for legalizing the issues not symbolizing them. all your concerned should be dealt with in legal matters. as long as an understanding is there that how all these things are going to be resolved, the negotiation should miove to formalizing process.

 

Thank you Chaos for giving me yet another chance to prove that wikipedia is very inaccurate source, despite there is no need to prove after the co-founder admitted so, but I can see that you insist in quoting from it, let us examine together:

you, or wikipedia says:

which means if there was 500k Palestinians in Palestine in 1928, there should be about another 500k Arab ( Muslim + Christian) immigrant to palestine during 1928 till 1948

let's see:

so who was immigrating like crazy then?

more details from British mandatory:

 

Imad, you are wasting your life and our time with quoting only from palestineremembered.com. Is palestineremembered.com your new quran?

Anything else you could elaborate about the interesting table?
In which year was it publish? which official signed it? in which method was the information gathered?
The table doesn't even mention "palestine" or "israel". this could be the count of immigrants to transjordan or syria..... lol. palestineremembered.com wouldn't surprise me if this is the case

your table is in terrible contradiction with this whole chapter in wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine#Demographics.2C_1920

so, which one is correct, imad?

 

Well it's time you realised that the occupiers, absolutley reject the right of return no matter what.

 

it is time for you to realize it is better to actually return than have the right to return.
it is important to try to exercise this right by making it possible for palestanians to have a country and return to their country asap.
right of the return should be considered as the right of return to palestine. not to their previous home. with this interpretation right of return can be exercised.
as a matter of fact with this interpretation the israeli acceptance is irrelevant and not necessary. just like what israel is called is not palestanian provocative. both issues can be resolved like this.

 

LOL. I am glad that you are not a doctor.

Doctor (pizzaman) to patient: I don't need to know the cause of your illness, I am just going to cure you without knowing if you have a flu or cancer. In my opinion, examining the cause of illness can slow down the healing process.

 

the sickness is already diagnosed. it is time for treatment. i hope my doctor would move to the treatment stage.

 

You've got to be kidding me... 20 years ago? Come on Julian. I doubt you've ever been out of your mom's basement, let alone Canada. Try 40 or 50+ years ago, and those signs said, Colored or Black, not Nigger. I used to think you just exaggerated. The truth is you are a liar and a BS artist. Keep in mind a great many of those signs included Irish, and Indians too. 20 years ago? Julian, you are so full of it sometime you stink the entire forum up. I can only assume you typo'd or just full of it as usual.

You are one of the biggest anti-semites here. Supporting Israel is neither a phenomena, nor is it "new" as you would suggest. Its as old as the hatred of the same. Nothing is going to change that on either side of the isle. There will always be people like you that hate Jews and America. Fortunately our side is blowing away the majority of haters with pride on a daily basis.

 

No it is not. The sickness is not about this right or that right and this religion or that religion. The stalemate is about a situation that none of the parties can win and no one has the desire to compromise. Remove the obstacle of compromise, namely USA support of Israel both economically and military and you will have a compromise and peace in less than 1 year.

 

I know that is worthless to try to teach anything to a trailer park trash but you can at least try to learn to read. I said the support of Israel is the last 20 years and those signs from my childhood which is about 45 years ago.

 

What you and your buddies fail to realize is that there is no "compromise" with a group of people hell bent on your destruction.

Compromise to you and your terror buds is the total annihilation of Israel and her people.

What you also fail to realize is that for Israel, is not, nor has it ever been about winning. Its about surviving.

My suggestion to you son is that you spend some time studying up on the holocaust.

 

the best you can hope is US supporting a plan like what i suggest. or you can wait 600 years. or even 60. palestanians need to evaluate this realistically. i do not think the palestanian in refugee camps want to wait. and i think they would be willing to accept something similar to what i said. but of course you can not and should not force any one to do what they do not want. so as i said a referendum is a good idea.

 

It is interesting to see while the leadership of Republican party collected the big bucks, they just needed to give couple of dollars in social assistance and couple of beers to red necks in trailer parks to brain wash them to believe and parrot anything they told them.

 

I don't care one way or another as long as they don't make problem for the rest of the world. None of your plans make any damn difference as long as there is no will to compromise. There will be no will to compromise as long as one side (Israel) has the upper hand.
You live in the dream land of let's be nice to each other instead of noticing the hard facts and reality on the ground.

 

@MIA AND @GWORLD
please do not pollute this thread with your usual pity arguments about each other. pm this garbage.

 

both side are ready. they are stuck in their usual frame of conversation. this needs to be changed. George Mitchell might be just the right guy for the job. on the other hand this is a webmaster forum with a large membership. the members here can do a lot in providing the right international attitude for a peace agreement.

 

In other words, what Gworld is saying here is that there will be no compromise until every last Jew is dead and Israel is gone.

Nice...