Malaysia Muslims protest proposed Hindu temple

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  1. new

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    #21

    How ironic

    Muslims protest against temple = BAD
    You Protest against Mosques = OK
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #22
    muslims decapitate an animals head and parade it down the street before threatening to start killing people = BAD

    But don't let that stop you defending any behaviour, regardless how barbaric and abhorrent, on the grounds that it was committed by one of your "brothers".
     
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    #23
    where did I defend anything?

    I only pointed out the blatant hypocrisy
     
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    #24
    How is it hypocrisy? The two things aren't even remotely similar.

    if you can't tell the difference between raising issue regarding the amount of mosques in the west and decapitating the head of an animal, parading it down the street and then threatening to kill people there is little point you even attempting to enter into dialogue on the subject.
     
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  5. northpointaiki

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    #25
    New, was it wrong to kill the cow, to parade it around like this, and then to stomp, kick and spit on the dead animal's head, as a form of protest?
     
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    #26
    Central Idea behind both is same

    Muslims in Malaysia = Don't want to allow the construction of temple
    Truth777 at DP = Don't want to allow the construction of Mosques

    Obviously Malaysians were protesting on the streets and were in a crowd and in the rush of blood such things do happen, there are emotional speeches and far fetched claims

    However, deep down under both Trurth777 and Malaysian Muslims want the same thing i.e. to Stop people from Other Faith to make a place of worship for them
     
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    #27
    No they aren't both the same. The issue isn't the protest, it's the method of protest which, when muslims are involved, seems to always involve getting a sword out and cutting somethings head off and jumping around like a bunch of petulant children.

    By the way, north asked you a question, fancy answering it?
     
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    #28
    Yes it is wrong, to mock other religions, this is not what Islam teaches (cows are sacred to hindus )

    Quran says that (I don't remember the exact words)
    Don't make fun of their false gods otherwise they will make fun of your true Allah
     
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  9. northpointaiki

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    #29
    OK, thanks for answering this.

    Is there not also something about inhumane slaughter, degradation of the animal?
     
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  11. northpointaiki

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    #31
    Thank you for the cites, New. I had thought that was the case.

    As uncomfortable as it is, however, having read this:

    I will have to ask you. The issue of child marriage in Islamic society is largely being ignored; and because it seems to me, and many others, that child marriage is anything but "compassionate and merciful," I'd appreciate an answer as to your feelings on this? Will you please provide your opinion, as a practicing Muslim?

    I've asked this, because I loathe forming opinions based on assumptions, which breed bigotry; and yet outside of a few people (two, vigorously affirming that it is right, and Islamic, for a person of 7-9 to enter into a consummated marriage with an adult; 1, condemning it, and 1, saying it is wrong, but not yet explaining more).

    Your contribution will help reveal more of how Muslims think and feel on the subject. Thanks.
     
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    #32
    This is irrelevant to the subject. Stop changing the topic. Create a new thread if you have queries. And for all others that are 'going against' the other religions, this thread is simply for a simple opinion.

    You can easily say, 'In my opinion I think this is wrong because they took it to far'

    Not go in detail about how they shouldn't build mosques in the west (Something you'll never be able to stop). No one is asking you for such opinions..

    Its not that hard
     
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    #33
    Actually, I'll do what I please, and if you have an issue, I'd recommend you take it up with the mods - it is to their moderation I answer to, not yours, with all due respect as a fellow member.

    It is precisely relevant, because New made the following comment in this thread:

    It seems to me, it's a fair question to ask, "how does child marriage exemplify 'compassion and mercy of Islam for humanity,' because in my mind, if indeed the practice is very much in line with Islamic thought, I cannot square that with "compassion and mercy" for children, a big part of that very humanity. I will say, that he chooses to call me a "Muslim hater," while avoiding the question (along with most others), doesn't remove the question in my mind, or its legitimacy, anyway.

    Again, rather than making pretense to moderating the forum, I'd respectfully suggest you submit something that troubles you to the mods, as it's their job to handle stuff like that. :)
     
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    #34
    I cant for the life of me understand why people cant be tolerant of other peoples beliefs. When Muslims in that particular country(notice I didnt not say all muslims as i know many muslims that are kind, respectful and loving towards all people) act like this towards hindus just because they want to built a place of worhship they are acting no better then christopher hitchens and his band of extremist nutjobs when they try to redicule theism. That being said there still is no excuse for anyone to get violent over this. We have to learn more respect and toleratiuon in this world. It seems like there is alot more extremism whether its muslim, christian or atheism in this world then there should be.
     
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    #35
    Thats exactly what im trying to say northpointaiki. If one member is steering of course, doesn't mean you have to follow. Help the situation and make a new thread or stop the conversation there. You act like you cant do anything...

    Also, there's a reason there is a 'Report' button in the thread. These people aren't crazy. We all are smart enough to know that few mods can't control the whole forums with out help....atleast I hope you know that.

    Anyways this conversation is over

    Good day
     
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    #36
    in our india there are many temples besides mosques and we live as friends in same area but we never faced problem with religions we should not blame a whole Muslim community because of some bad people and countries for your kind information i am a Hindu,

    Good luck :)
     
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    #37
    I'm from shah alam,Malaysia..I want explain about this demonstration..The demonstration has arranged from somebody pro malaysian government party..Selangor government is from anti government party..The pro malaysia government try to make provoke..
    This is about dirty political minded from pro malaysian government party to take back selangor state.

    I'm muslim and i have many friends from non-muslim..That demonstrations is totally more dirty political tactical from pro government party..
     
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    #38
    Did the cows head have a beard? Because I know the muslems can be real sticklers for beards. I think if it had a beard then there would have been its... because, um, the Hindu Messenger, uh, um, no, uh, hmmm... Okay, what it is was that a cartoon once had a beard of what's the guys name Muslim. Muslim al Mohammed, yeah, and it was in a cartoon and I think some people actually died over this in some protests around the world and then those seven women in the Phillipines were raped and murdered. Well, all I can say is thank Goodness the cows head didn't have a beard or those hindus, well, who knows WHAT might've happened.
     
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    #39

    Good to read something that makes sense.
     
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