Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me". John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". holy water can hear and speak?? p/s: Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present onearth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet..........
It is not Mohammad for sure. Mohammad never preached "Love one another, Love your enemies". Mohammad hardly ever talks about Jesus. Mohammad never did any miracles to prove his Divinity. Mohammad was a warrior. Jesus was a healer and a dedicated servent of God. No one was ever hurt by Jesus. Mohammad was responsible even for the beheadings of young boys of a jewish tribe who unconditionally surrendered after the 25 day siege. (These days the murder of POW is called WAR CRIME!) Mohammad married a girl of a very young age, for nothing else, but personal sexual pleasure. Holly people don't indulge in these kind of activities.. (Please don' t repeat the ridiculous excuses that the 14-16 years old boys had to be beheaded because God wanted it, or that Mohammad's marriage to Aisha was ordered by God.) These actions for me and many others are not pure and holly. Muhammad is in no way the Spirit of Truth. Unless we accept the crooked and twisted actions of somebody for something good. I am not saying Mohammad did nothing good to anybody.... But you will never recruit any humane person to believe he was "an all good and holly person".
btw,I didnt even mention that it is Muhammad(pbuh) but you have to know some infos and facts about this man; ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA confirms: "....a mass of detail in the early sources show that he was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others who were like-wise honest and upright men." (Vol. 12) DIWAN CHAND SHARMA wrote: "Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him." (D.C. Sharma, THE PROPHETS OF THE EAST, Calcutta, 1935, pp. 12) GEORGE BERNARD SHAW said about him: "He must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much needed peace and happiness." (THE GENUINE ISLAM, Singapore, Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936) He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numerous social and political reforms, established a powerful and dynamic society to practice and represent his teachings and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and behavior for all times to come EDWARD GIBBON and SIMON OCKLEY speaking on the profession of ISLAM write: "'I BELIEVE IN ONE GOD, AND MAHOMET, AN APOSTLE OF GOD' is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honor of the Prophet has never transgressed the measure of human virtues; and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion." (HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRES, London, 1870, p. 54) Muhammad (pbuh) was nothing more or less than a human being. But he was a man with a noble mission, which was to unite humanity on the worship of ONE and ONLY ONE GOD and to teach them the way to honest and upright living based on the commands of God. He always described himself as, 'A Servant and Messenger of God,' and so indeed every action of his proclaimed to be Truth777 said about him: "err..." The Prophet Muhammads Message of Peace Who is the Prophet Muhammad?
Also check History's 100 Most Influential People http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100 Excerpt from Hart's book:
Citing Hart, that is funny. In 1996, Hart addressed a conference organized by Jared Taylor's "race-realist" organization, American Renaissance , on the need for a racial partition of the United States.[2] Hart proposed a three-way division with one part for white separatists, one part for black separatists, and one part left as multiracial nation. He said that that a peaceful, voluntary partition is the only way to prevent violence.[3] At the 2006 American Renaissance conference, Hart, who is Jewish, had a public confrontation with David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and former Louisiana state representative, over Duke's "antisemitic" remarks.[4][5] Hart organized a conference held in Baltimore in 2009 with the title, Preserving Western Civilization. It addressed the need to defend "America’s Judeo-Christian heritage and European identity" from immigrants, Muslims, and African Americans.[6] Invited speakers included: Lawrence Auster, Peter Brimelow, Steven Farron, Julia Gorin, Lino A. Graglia , Henry C. Harpending, Roger D. McGrath, Pat Richardson, J. Philippe Rushton, Srdja Trifković, and Brenda Walker.[7] Hart sounds like a real asshole and a racist bigot as well. Why would you cite some asshole who hates Muslims and blacks? Did you post about his book because you thought he was complimentary of Islam? You goofed. p.s. Influential does not equal good. Hitler is often cited on most influential lists. It is not because of his good acts.
I don't know what other views Hart holds, I have only heard about his book and his thoughts in book are quoted in my post above
As Gentle as Jesus In the early years of Muhammad’s prophethood there was fierce persecution at the hands of the polytheists of Makkah. Muhammad and the new Muslims suffered terribly from chastisement, ridicule, slander, an unjust boycott and physical torture. In spite of this, Muhammad remained steadfast, patient and took a non-reproachful attitude throughout those 14 years. Even some of his relatives took part in the vanguard of assailants. His uncle, known in the Qur’an as Abu Lahab, threw stones at him and forced his sons to divorce their wives who were two of Muhammad’s daughters. Abu Lahab’s wife, apart from shouting profanities at him, used to tie bundles of firewood and thorns and throw it in Muhammad’s path. Neighbors threw goat dung on his back while he prayed. In all cases Muhammad would never return abusive language, slander or ridicule any of them. He would invoke God for help and justice, and in many cases ask God to guide them to Islam. While the Makkan polytheists were torturing the family of Yasser, Muhammad comforted them. He raised his hand in prayer and said, “Be patient, you will verily find your abode in Paradise.†Although the voice of Islam was public, Muhammad advised some of his followers, particularly those who didn’t have a tribe or influential family to protect them, to conceal their faith. The Muslims were in a very weak position and it was in their best interests to show restraint from their enemies at all times. Muhammad taught love, restraint, patience and foreboding to all his Companions. These exemplary qualities formed the foundations of a good character for fellow Muslims. The Strategic Planner For the ultimate and long-term success of any mission it is vital to devise and implement a strategy. Despite Muhammad being illiterate and new to leadership, at the onset of his prophethood he got ahead with planning. Just one important example of this is how him and the early Muslims of Makkah made two secret pledges with the people of Madinah to instill peace and understanding between the Muslims of both cities. It was only after the second pledge - namely, the Greater Pledge of Aqabah - that Muhammad assigned 12 people to quietly dispel the message of Islam. This was 13 years after receiving his first revelation. It was through this gradual elucidation of Islam to the people of Madinah that mutual support, trust and sacrifice were fostered between them, preparing them for the eventful immigration of the Makkan Muslims to Madinah. Even the actual immigration of Muhammad was cleverly planned to escape the pagan Arabs’ assassination attempts. It started during the night leaving his cousin, Ali, in his bed as a decoy. Muhammad and his closest friend and supporter, Abu Bakr, at first proceeded south, instead of north, to further dupe their assailants. Trusted persons delivered provisions throughout their route. They where greeted by the people of Madinah more than two weeks later. Equality Pre-Islamic Arab culture was fraught with racism. Arabic poetry, the pride of the Arabs, boasted of their perceived superiority as a race. When Muhammad began to preach Islam to his fellow Arabs there was fierce opposition to most of his teachings including Islam’s egalitarianism between races, tribes and nations. The essence of this concept was embedded in the Qur’anic verse: “We have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.†Muhammad, however, did more than talk about equality between races. He never showed favoritism towards any tribe, and he befriended many of those who did not belong to a high-ranking tribe. Two of his closest friends were both former slaves. Bilal was from Abyssinia and Salman was from Persia. It is important to take the historic details into context. South Saharan Africans were commonly used as slaves and Persians at that time were a declining superpower vehemently hated by the Arabs. Muhammad cherished the companionship of both men. Bilal, who was one of the first Muslims, was given the honor of chanting the call to prayer, or Adhan: the same chant that we hear from mosques all around the world today. Salman was known as a member of the Prophet’s household, although this was a title only given to the Prophet’s kin. Salman was an exception due to his close friendship with him. Braving the Storm Although prophets throughout time held extraordinary characteristics, it must not be forgotten that they were prone to all forms of human suffering. The first revelation of the Qur’an descended upon Muhammad when he was privately meditating in a cave in the desert. He had no previous warning that he was to be a prophet. When the Angel Gabriel appeared squeezing his chest telling him to read, he was exhausted and terrified. Muhammad replied that he could not read and yet still Gabriel told him to read. After a third time he recited the words: “Read, in the name of your Lord Who created…†Muhammad ran shaking to his wife for comfort and some sense of the matter. He asked her to cover him with his mantel as he shivered from fear. It was after speaking to a Christian monk, familiar with the scriptures, that he learned he was to be a prophet. It took several months before he received the subsequent revelations and then became informed of his duty as God’s last messenger on earth. For Muhammad, delivering the message of the Qur’an was a daunting task, as he knew too well how his fellow people would react. He knew about their greed, violence, idol worshipping and pagan tendencies. He expected that they would chastise him and consider him an enemy. He needed exemplary courage and guts to stand before his tribesmen and women and tell them that their concept of God and that of the forefathers will only destroy them. Unquestionable allegiance to one’s tribe and family was sacrosanct. Never, in the history of pre-Islamic Arab tradition, written or unwritten, in conversation or poetry, did one publicly voice anger at a member of his tribe. Yet, in the Qur’an, there is the mention of the prophet’s uncle and his wife who will be thrown into hell for their denial of God’s Oneness and their aggressive ploys to stop Muhammad from delivering his message. Muhammad was not the type to voluntarily cross red tape, nor break the sacred taboos of his tribesmen. He actually respected the many of the traditions of his people and held to them as long as they did not go against Islam. His character was considered flawless even among the most uncouth of them. Considering this public rejection of his family and people was so unprecedented and yet out of Muhammad’s character, the Prophet’s people should have seen that these were not the words of their humble tribesman, but only of God. This well-respected man, nicknamed ‘The Trustworthy’, suddenly had to challenge all the laws and customs of his people that went against the Oneness of God. This required tremendous courage even if it meant cutting ties with his kinsmen. Model Father Figure Despite Muhammad’s duties as a Prophet and later as a statesman, his responsibilities at home remained within his priorities. Of his seven children only his four daughters survived, as his sons died in infancy. Although his daughters lived long enough to marry and have children of their own, only Fatima, his youngest, outlived him. Muhammad’s paternal emotions stretched beyond his own children and grandchildren. He fostered an orphan boy named Zaid and treated him as if he was his own son to the extent that he was called Zaid Ibn Muhammad. It was some time later after a revelation from God that he was told that only one’s natural child had the right to take the father’s name. Henceforth, Zaid was known as Zaid Ibn Harith. But that didn’t diminish Muhammad’s love for him. Anas Ibn Malik, the famous narrator of hadith, used to do errands for the Prophet when he was a young boy. When asked about his work with the Prophet, Anas said that the Prophet never asked him: why did he do this and why did he not do that. He never scolded or shouted at Anas. When Muhammad used to pass by young children, they would gather round to greet him. The Prophet would pass his hand over the cheek of every child making sure not to exclude any of them. According to all the Hadith, the Prophet was known never to have chastised, beat or ridiculed any child - nor any adult for that matter. So many of the aspects of nurturing children found in good parenting books today are embedded in the skills of Muhammad himself.
If Jesus, Mohammad or Moses walked among us today they most certainly would be locked up. At the very least a 5150 here in California. I have no problem with people believing in God. I cherish my freedom to think and believe as I want so I certainly think everyone should have that right - whether I personally agree with them or not. Otherwise what kind of world do we have where it is only okay to believe in "approved" things. Freedom of thought is perhaps the most precious of all.
hi brother brontwn.hm, What do you think i'm doing now?Am I wasting my time talking something i'm not sure about or did u see any benefit i got telling u about ths ancient stories?..Did you notice that sometime yr heart feel very empty.Here a story for your heart's brother; Those who disbelieve say: "This (the Qur'ân) is nothing but a lie that he (Muhammad SAW) has invented, and others have helped him at it, so that they have produced an unjust wrong (thing) and a lie." And they say: "Tales of the ancients, which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon." Say: "It (this Qur'ân) has been sent down by Him (Allâh) (the Real Lord of the heavens and earth) Who knows the secret of the heavens and the earth. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." And they say: "Why does this Messenger (Muhammad SAW) eat food, and walk about in the markets (like ourselves). Why is not an angel sent down to him to be a warner with him? "Or (why) has not a treasure been granted to him, or why has he not a garden whereof he may eat?" And the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.) say: "You follow none but a man bewitched." ...
I read two random paragraphs of your big post (Section "Equality"). That was enough.... Wonderful and True. Nothing has changed since the days of Muhammed until the 21th century: The person's race did not matter, and still doesn't matter at all for Muslims, they are from all races. Islam does not differentiate people according to race. No religion does. But unlike other religions, Islam does differentiate members of Islam from non-members in the most obvious and non-ambiguous way. This is how it starts (Surah 1): (The "book of genesis" of the Quran) [1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. [1:2] Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe. [1:3] Most Gracious, Most Merciful. [1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment. [1:5] You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help. [1:6] Guide us in the right path: [1:7] the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have deserved wrath, nor of the strayers. Very nice indeed. A good start. Praise the GOD. Guide us. Most merficul. Cool, Makes sense. Lovely religion so far. But Then, Here is the 2nd thing the quran says (Surah 2) (or, the first thing the quran say after mentioning the existence of god): [2:1] A.L.M. [2:2] This scripture is infallible; a beacon for the righteous; [2:3] who believe in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them, they give to charity. [2:4] And they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain. [2:5] These are guided by their Lord; these are the winners. [2:6] As for those who disbelieve, it is the same for them; whether you warn them, or not warn them, they cannot believe. [2:7] GOD seals their minds and their hearing, and their eyes are veiled. They have incurred severe retribution. [2:8] Then there are those who say, "We believe in GOD and the Last Day," while they are not believers. [2:9] In trying to deceive GOD and those who believe, they only deceive themselves without perceiving. [2:10] In their minds there is a disease. Consequently, GOD augments their disease. They have incurred a painful retribution for their lying. [2:11] When they are told, "Do not commit evil," they say, "But we are righteous." [2:12] In fact, they are evildoers, but they do not perceive. [2:13] When they are told, "Believe like the people who believed," they say, "Shall we believe like the fools who believed?" In fact, it is they who are fools, but they do not know. [2:14] When they meet the believers, they say, "We believe," but when alone with their devils, they say, "We are with you; we were only mocking." oops. the very nice human-friendly religion is turning nasty in a very early stage..... The hate of the "disbelievers" comes before everything else. Before the moon, the sub, the spring, the winter, the flowers, the frogs, the birds, the agriculture, the sky, the women. The quran is obsessed with inciting against the "disbelievers", regardless of their race. I am not a religious person at all. I find all religions ridiculous and stupid. But Islam I find first of all violent and dangerous, and ridiculous+stupid in 2nd place. Unfortunately, the reality and the news reconfirms my view on Islam each and every day again and again.
Why are you posting all that crap to me? I don't care what you want to believe in. I just do not like when people try to shove what they believe in down my throat. Why are you being deceptive and not just coming out and saying that you think this line in the bible foretells the coming of Mohammad and Islam? This type of thread is why people are sick of Islam and Muslims. It is these repeated attempts to denigrate and insult other people and their religions that makes you really annoying.
.....none but a man bewitched." ... See how they coin similitudes for you, so they have gone astray, and they cannot find a (Right) Path. Blessed be He Who, if He will, will assign you better than (all) that, - Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise) and will assign you palaces (i.e. in Paradise). Nay, they deny the Hour (the Day of Resurrection), and for those who deny the Hour, We have prepared a flaming Fire (i.e. Hell). When it (Hell) sees them from a far place, they will hear its raging and its roaring. And when they shall be thrown into a narrow place thereof, chained together, they will exclaim therein for destruction. Exclaim not today for one destruction, but exclaim for many destructions. Say: (O Muhammad SAW) "Is that (torment) better or the Paradise of Eternity promised to the Muttaqûn (pious and righteous persons - see V.2:2)?" It will be theirs as a reward and as a final destination.
Quran was sent as a mercy for all creatures and as a warning,advises, guidance and direction for mankind comprehends the complete code for the Muslims to live a good, chaste, abundant and rewarding life in obedience to the commandments of Allah, in this life and to gain salvation in the next. . . . Indeed, there has come to you light and a clear book from Allah; With it Allah guides him who fill follow His pleasure into the ways of safety and brings them out of utter darkness into light by his will and guides them to the right path. (V: 15-16) Quran is about the truth n try to find at least one mistake in it if you'r the truth.Read back the verses and look at yourself.Didn't it turn to be truth enough..? peace
Nice speech. It is however not answering anything I said in my post quoted by you. You could quote any other post and give the same speech, that wouldn't make a difference. If you are willing to try and address my problem, that would be nice of you. I ask: Why the quran starts with inciting against the "disbelievers". Why not start with the animals, and the sun and the moon, and the flowers, and the birds, the agriculture, manners, hygene, and then, maybe, address the disbelievers. Why address the disbelievers at all? please, not another speech about the glory of Islam which was "sent as mercy to all creatures...", if you can't answer my simple questions, then just disregard this post, like you disregarded the post you quoted.
1. Because they are disbelievers like you and Qur'an teach us about disbelievers since its a book of knowledge 2. It started with asking everyone to Read and started with a scientific fact
Honestly, I didn't expect an answer........ and I didn't get any.... If there is a Muslim or non-Muslim here who happen to suggest some kind of answer to my questions from above or have any kind of philosophical theological thoughts on that matter, speak up
Answer was provided, but if your brain is very limited and can not understand it, then i can not help But i will try again to make more simple for you: Qur'an is a book of knowledge which teach us about everything which concern our life's and so it teach us about the disbelievers, i wonder if your brain can get it now
I bolded some words to make you understand my questions better. Question: Answer: Must be my limited brain who didn't see how the answer is related with the question. stupid me.