Whose Comitting War Crimes : Hizbullah Or Israel ?

So why exactly couldn't the Jewish people live amongst other people in existing countries? Why exactly do they have to have their own country? Are the mormons trying to take Utah and make it their own country or are they happy to be part of the existing country?

No, I don't. I think creating it in the first place was a mistake and now there isn't any good solution. Sort of like the war in Iraq.

 

I agree, your excitement couldn't be any more obvious on a report that suggest "may be." Who else would be first to post anti-Israel material?

No, actually with all the reporting in the article about your buds hiding behind the UN and recalling how UN members had been killed because your friends were hiding behind them, I mistyped. It should have been "injured."

And you are correct, you don't see any mention of hezbollah intentionally attacking the UN, because I never said such. So you might want to check your credibility gap, or conclude as I did above, that you mistyped. I'll let you decide which one works best for you

And while we're on the subject, let's take a look at what your buds are doing, yo!:

No, I'm quite happy with this report! It highlights what your buds are doing quite well. And even further, highlights my point well, that the UN remains embarrassingly quiet towards hezbollah, but jumps on Israel with mere speculation, always. I bet kofi's not angry that hezbollah is hiding behind the UN though, ya think?

How about anti-hiding behind the UN, or anti-hiding behind children, or anti-hiding behind women? Those are probably cool though, huh?

 

You mean like the countries where their land was stolen from? How about Saudi Arabia? nah, that wouldn't work. How about Pakistan. Nah, we'd have a problem there. How about anywhere in the middle east? Nah, they all stole those lands, so that wouldn't be cool.

 

Because in countries such as Jordan (the MOST friendly state) jews aren't allowed to own property or become citizens. British authority was slowly slipping out of the region...had they not made democratic state, they would be like they've always been...pushed out via culture and government.

The mormons live a good country already...the middle east is a shithole.

Good analogy. I don't think it should have happened either...but there's absolutely no way we're going to get Jews out of Israel. They'll be there to the bitter end, and frankly I would laugh at similiar gesture made by a few mexicans (whom thought this is/was their land). At some point you got to let things go...for their own livelyhood, it would be ten times better if palestines just tried to deal with what they had.

I wish Roosevelt took Hitlers offer of taking all the Jews...probably the reason the US feels a need to protect them, since we turned our backs on them.

 

Israel existed long before islam was invented.

 

The nuttiest post of a decade I have seen so far and clearly states your propanda for terror.
The jews were scattered around, lost their home and got it back. Pretty fair one would say, but not for yo-yo.

 

Just to make it clear, you're retracting your false claims that the Hezbullah was firing on the UN and killed UN members? You now agree, that the rocket that hit them was unintentional and only "lightly" hurt the UN members?

They aren't my buds and I've never claimed they were. The ones participating in rocket attacks that murder civilians are disgusting, despicable people - just like anyone who murders innocent civilians.

I'm sure you'll ignore that because it doesn't fit your agenda of accusing anyone who criticizes Israel as being "for the terrorists"...

Just a quick question - if Hezbullah built hospitals, schools, homes, etc, and they are now in those places that they paid for and built - do you consider that "hiding" behind women and children?

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees how anti-Jewish he is. I guess he must have had some bad experiences with Jews, or maybe that's how he was raised. Who knows...

 

Didn't many of the current Jewish population in Israel begin immigrating from Europe?

I agree - I'm not even advocating they should all leave Israel. I'm not against them living there. But I'm not going to sit around and turn a blind eye when they murder people...

I agree. Israel needs to give back the extra land they took during the wars, and let the palestinians who wish, to come back to Israel - and compensate them for the land/belongings they lost.

 

No need for the long winded paragraph, I construct my sentences for third grade level intentionally. I can't imagine you can't read past that level. Re-read my comments again.

If they aren't your buds, I'd sure hate to see your enemies. With friends like you, I could take over the whole world and get a clean pass

If you are ashamed of supporting hezbollah and making excuses for all their actions, stop. No one here is telling you to defend and support them. Use your own free will. Or not.

I place no conditions on hezbollah. They are hiding behind women, children and the UN. Finding excuses for them (supporting them, which is exactly what you are doing) to hide behind civilians to justify their actions is repulsive. If Israel was hiding behind civilians, you'd be all over it. Tell me you wouldn't? You're all over them when kofi says "may be" with gleeful cheer. Think about it. Surely you are aware of what you are doing, no?

 

Jewish always were pursued/chased/ haunted by many cultures (Babylonia - Iraq, Persians, Greek, Rome, Holocaust etc) and religions but guess what? they always survive and they always will survive ...


BTW yo-yo, you can learn about jews in your wiki

 

You mean the "extra" land they captured when they were attacked? So which of those countries gives back extra land they took by the sword to Israel? Who compensates Israel and the Jews around the world for 1400 years of persecution?

 

I've never supported the murderring of innocent civilians on any side, if you think I've posted something contrary to that, please share?

Since you forgot to answer the question I'll ask it again:

Just a quick question - if Hezbullah built hospitals, schools, homes, etc, and they are now in those places that they paid for and built - do you consider that "hiding" behind women and children?

It's pretty much a yes or a no. I know you seem to have a lot of trouble of with yes/no questions, but try your best this time not to dodge the question.

 

I didn't say that you supported the murdering of innocent civilians on any side. I said, if you are ashamed of supporting hezbollah (no conditions), then stop. There's no need to fabricate conditions for which I've clearly not stated.

There was no forgetting. It was very clear. I'll answer again:

I place no conditions on hezbollah. They are hiding behind women, children and the UN. Finding excuses for them (supporting them, which is exactly what you are doing) to hide behind civilians to justify their actions is repulsive. If Israel was hiding behind civilians, you'd be all over it. Tell me you wouldn't? You're all over them when kofi says "may be" with gleeful cheer. Think about it. Surely you are aware of what you are doing, no?

Which questions in there didn't you answer?

 

'In 1921 the League of Nations defined Mandate Palestine, as The Jewish National Home, to be "open to close Jewish Settlement". In 1922, the British Mandatory Government subtracted the entire region east of the Jordan River, more than 75 percent of the Jewish National Home, to create the Arab Kingdom of.[Trans]-Jordan.


Great Britain then progressively restricted or banned Jewish immigration and settlement even west of the Jordan River, rigidly blockading the Land of their fathers to Jews trying to escape the gas chambers of Europe. At the same time, the British authorities permitted massive immigration of Arabs into Mandatory Palestine, whose families now number among those who claim it as their ancient ancestral homeland.'

I believe you should have worded that paragraph differently...it sounds like your just blanketed Jews, rather than opposing government action/behaviour.

I disagree with give back extra land and compensating. America fought a war against Mexico, and it lost it's land, and consequently signed it's land away....I know I'm not give my land back.

Hell, if we get into rather abitrary claims, black people could sue Mexico, Brazil, America for slavery. I don't know about you, but most people whom aren't full blooded Indian or Black...would not likely be in to that. Then again you can ask Jordan and Eygpt to compensate or give back their occupied land as well....

Personally, if I was Israel, I'd target terrorist constantly, but I'd kiss major ass with the average palestine....set-up hospitals in their areas, schools and what not....there's a price to pay to keep people on your side and using subtle power plays like that are sometimes necessary by governments...even though I'm not a big fan of socialism. Israel PR is a bit weak, but I do understand why their government behaves the way they do.

I recall a boy (in my youth) that didn't have friends as a child...Tommy. He used to act nice and try to be my friend, and the moment I somewhat allowed him, he would do some stupid shit and slap my head or talk shit. I was fairly forgiving as I perceived him to be a rather sad person, and I felt some empathy. But one day he really slapped the back of my head hard, and I ran after him and punched the living shit out of his ear....I felt some regret in doing it (as I saw him laying on the floor for a while), but it did stop him for a while. Terrorist remind me of Tommy ie some of them are hopeless, no matter how forgiving you are.

 

Yeh.. well you get what I was saying. I'm not an english major

If you ever want the fighting to stop, I don't see another [short term] way. I also think compensating the people who lost their homes and all of their possessions is the right thing to do. Plus, letting all the palestinians who used to live there back in, would probably help deter future attacks on Israel, knowing they would most likely kill palestinians as well as Jews.

 

I don't think it would stop even if that happened.

What do you do with the terrorists that want all the Jews out and don't want Israel to exist? I'd say there's a sizeable chunk of extremists that want that. It's been often quote by hamas leaders.

"Even if at one time or another, the [non-Muslim] enemy takes over the territory that was under Islamic rule, it is considered to be perpetually Islamic,"

*shrug*

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Yasser Arafat, in both his capacity as P.L.O./Fatah leader and Palestinian Authority (P.A.) chairman, frequently referred to the goal of raising the flag of Palestine over the walls of Jerusalem.

"We have announced a number of times that from a religious point of view Palestine from the sea to the river is Islamic," the P.A.-appointed mufti Sheikh Ikrama Sabri said on Palestinian TV in January 2001.

 

You're right.... probably nothing is ever going to satisfy everyone, especially all the nutty extremists.

But you don't have to make them all happy - you need to make the majority happy. If you find a way to make the majority of the palestinians, etc, happy, they're no longer going to support, or stand by and let the extremists do whatever they want. Or at least that's the hope...

 

That's the irony behind Muslim terror groups. Every terror group thinks it's better than the other.

 

The UN spouting violations of international law? Stop it man, you're killing me!

You expect him to believe a fact as truth?

Arnie, there have been nuttier! What gets me, is how some people can top the nuttiest, only to top themselves with each new post.

It's impossible to expect him to accept a fact as the truth. It's fun trying though.

Nope, that's their way of convicing their "buds" like you, that they are good. That's one of the ways they garner support. A little bit of money will make just about anyone look the other way.

Yikes... Did you even complete the 9th grade? Do they have high schools where you live? I'm willing to bet that huber dwelling GED educated rejects have more brain power.

Source?

Again, had you had the luxury of a public education (yes, even a liberally skewed public education) you would see the error in this statement. Israel did not take any land. The land they live in, and the one the terrorists live in, always belonged to Jews.

Even historical facts do not seem to matter when dealing with those that live in an alternate reality.