It is good to see Palestinians be they Muslims or Christians or Jews - unite their efforts against the apartheid illegal state of Israel, read it all here: Israeli wins Fatah top body seat
Could this guy the voice that could bridge the gap between the 2 countries? Ill have to read up more on this guy.
No, I do not think he will, because the illegal state of Israel is not interested in reducing that gap, for them, it will mean then no more lands to occupy, no more sources to steal, no organs to steal and sell to US .. etc despite there are many voices in Israel itself who are sick of the Zionism practices and wants to see an end for that conflict, Dr. Davis though can bridge the gap between West and Palestinians in regards of Israel as an illegal and terrorist regime, and the gap between Palestinians, and the non-Zionist Jews in occupied Palestine, since he is a Jewish voice, it will be more likely to be heard there in the West because unlike Arabs who been falsely accused of every thing bad in this world by the Zionist propaganda machine - the only thing that can pollute his voice is the nonsense old "self-hating Jew" cliché, and this is not of much effect there, so hopefully, he will help in increasing the awareness about the criminal and terrorist practices of the illegal state, whether in occupied Palestine 48 & 67, or outside.
That's awsome. Best regards to all the palestinian muslims, christians and.... hmm.. 1 jew, from the appartheid illegal state of Israel. Mubarak ramadan. I'm going back to look for cool fresh organs to plunder. George Washington knew that this would happen, he warned the world! they should have listened to him back then to save us all this trouble.
This is good, do you know if there are any Arabs in top body seats in Israel? Not just in low positions?
In case you were asking me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raleb_Majadele First Arab member of the parliant to become a member minister. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azmi_Bishara Who delivered intelligence information from within the israeli house of legistlators to Hizbollah during the 2006 war. Fleed to arab countries to avoid trial, will never return. Did not give away his Israel ID yet! a legal action is in process to take it from him so that he won't get pension from the state of Israel which he betray! LOL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Tibi Member of the israeli knesset and at the same time the personal advisor of Yasser arafat. Absurd no? The Israeli Arabs would die for their Israeli ID. Where else on in the middle east will they find a life that matches their education, freedom, and prosperity? Education, Freedom, and Prosperity guys, not apartheid. Need the dry fact numbers or they will make you feel sick? I'll spare you this time the comparison between Illiteracy rates, annual average income, health care, freedom of speech, right to vote and be elected, between Israeli Arabs and other, less lucky, Arabs of the middle east. The average imad and ahmed of the middle east, talks great words about how bad Israel is and about the glorious of Islam, but the moment they can lay their hands on a western VISA they pack their stuff and gets the hell outta there ! ! //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Regarding the clown from the 1st post of this thread.... i'll tell you some more although I know you never read... I don't think that he is a "self-hating Jew". I think that he is just loves himself so much more than anything else, the "gimmick" about his is being an Israeli who promotes hate to Israel. Be certain, If he was not jewish he wouldn't be elected bellboy of a mosque. Simply because his IQ is twice than the summed IQ of all the others in the council, combined. A real alien Its good to know that Israel is an appartheid illegal state. Apparently, many Israeli and non-Israeli palestinians think otherwise: Between 1994 and 2003, 130,000 (!)(!)(!) non-Israeli Palestinians married Israeli-Palestinians for the citizenship of their dreams. After this huge wave of targeted marriages between Israeli and non-Israeli Palestinians, Israel had no choice but to protect its democracy and legislate a racist law that prohibits these couple to live in Israel (google it, u're good at it). They must live only in the palestinian authority. After the law was legislated, this kind of marriage dropped 90%: Between 2004 and 2009, only 5,000 couples married like this. Amazing no? http://www.omedia.co.il/Show_Article.asp?DynamicContentID=24941&MenuID=837&ThreadID=1014018 (source) Even the clown from post 1, who has only bad words to say about Israel, won't give away his Israeli ID. All he needs to do is travel to the local office of interior, and declare that he does not wish to be a citizen of the "apartheid" country anymore. We would be more than glad to fulfill his wish. Yet, he won't. Interesting eh? I promise to make a thread soon for you to read and be proud of the large and constantly increasing amount of non-jews, also many muslims among the Israeli arabs who volunteer to the Israeli army 1 lunatic vs. 130,000 --- hmmmmm..... though decision.... Cheers guys. going to plunder some more Palestinian organs
Of course some want an Israeli passport, because if you have a Palestinian one it gives the IOF a free ticket to shoot you in the face and get away with it. You gave me Arabs in low positions, not "top positions" And no, i wasn't asking you, hence why i didn't quote you, genius.
if you read the clown's 1st post, you will see a link there, the second one, click it, it will take you to a page where Dr. Davis speaks about Palestinian representation in Parliament: this is in Palestinians lands occupied in 1948, or what so-called Israel, despite this, I must say, it is still better than in West Bank where: and more there, I recommend you to read, and give a value to your posts, instead of the typical "My God will beat your God" childish posts.
Davis: Truth: Davis is hallucinatin, imad. This is why you are so fond of him. you can't have a beer with him so the least you could do is lie and hallucinate together? Go to maps.google.com, look for Nazareth, Israel (where I was born and grew up). Zoom out. And watch the fields, cities, and arab villages of northern Israel. Reyne (where I fixed my car, the garage guy, his name is also Imad, very nice guy), Kafr Kana, Yafa, Mushreife, Iksal, etc'. When I travel by car from Nazareth Illit to Haifa, 100% of the way is arab land. villages, cities, very nice smells and views. You think my Russian mother taught me arabic? my many arab friends taught me Arabic. Join the forces of peace Imad, you can do better than being an ignorant mujahediiin! I will be the first to host you in the glorious state of Israel should you chose to join the powers of light and modernity and desert the ideology of hate and extremism. Some more on Ahmad Tibi:
even some more about Ahmad Tibi: from reading your post, you make things look bright there, which makes me wonder, why Israeli ex-prime minister said this? Olmert was a step ahead you, he admits it, but like all Israeli pm's, do nothing about it. more Tibi?
Ahmed Tibi likes the 11,000$/month he gets from the Israeli government, Travel and expenses not included. He is a women's doctor. A very respectful and funny person. I like him. He speaks Hebrew better than most Jewish members of the Knesset. Sometimes he is really hallucinating when he speaks politics... From his many years in the Israeli parliament, he has become a very close friend of Reuven Rivlin, grandson of one of the key figures in the earth 20th century Zionism and a great Zionist himself, currently the chairman on the knesset. Their families are also friends. Tibi loves Israel so much as it is, Jewish, Free, Modern, liberal, and cool, despite everything he say (he needs to get re-elected, you know, gotta make a living). Now this is something to look and adore, not the davis lunatic of yours that fits to your mosque agenda. Imad, even if you bring another 1000 irrelevant quotes, this will not change the very simple following FACT: This is a consensus among Israeli arabs. They will never give up their Israeli passport. Territory exchange: big settlements for arab villages is out of the question. The Israeli arabs, Tibi included say that they would kill to prevent their village to be part of "Palestine". Like his people, Tibi would prefer to die than live in another dark and primitive Arab dictatorship such as Jordan. A place where "honor killings" are perfectly legal. Middle ages. Imad: if your sister will have sex with a married man, will you kill her?
too bad you are talking with yourself and not with me. Read the "territory exchange" paragraph. with the little resources your parents/education system have given you to understand anything which is not related with the quran, try to understand what I said in previous post, I repeat it here, and get back to me if you have something smart to say. I will explain once again for the mujahedeen: The Israel arabs say: We will never exchange Taibeh, Um-Al-Fahm etc' for Maale Edomim or Ariel. A most discussed solution will be: 1) Jewish Maale Edumim, now beyond 67 borders will be part of Israel, and 2) In exchange, Um-Al-Fahm, arabic city in mainland Israel, will become part of palestine. They can stay at home, they don't have to move. Just the landlord changes, and they will have to change papers. you understand? For this solution, it is the Israeli Arabs who say: "NO!". we want to remain part of the Israel as it is today. What part of the sentence you do not understand? tell me. are they crazy? haven't they heard that Israel is an apartheid state? or maybe they just can't give up 24,000$/year in average they make (average jew: 37,000$), and live in a country like egypt or syria or Jordan where they will make 2,500$/year and 60% of their kids will not be able to read and write?
it is very relevant, it was you who quoted Tibi from wikipedia, and I remembered wikipedia's co-founder when he said: so I looked for more accurate source and guess what!! found the original source, Tibi himself so you quoted Tibi from wikipedia, I quoted Tibi from umm.. Tibi you can check the difference between both, now which part you do not understand?
it doesn't matter what ahmad tibi said or not said. He is 1 person. What matters it, what 1.3 million Israeli arabs say think and do. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// I will explain once again for the mujahedeen: The Israel arabs say: We will never exchange Taibeh, Um-Al-Fahm etc' for Maale Edomim or Ariel. A most discussed solution will be: 1) Jewish Maale Edumim, now beyond 67 borders will be part of Israel, and 2) In exchange, Um-Al-Fahm, arabic city in mainland Israel, will become part of palestine. They can stay at home, they don't have to move. Just the landlord changes, and they will have to change papers. you understand? For this solution, it is the Israeli Arabs who say: "NO!". we want to remain part of the Israel as it is today. What part of the sentence you do not understand? tell me. are they crazy? haven't they heard that Israel is an apartheid state? or maybe they just can't give up 24,000$/year in average they make (average jew: 37,000$), and live in a country like egypt or syria or Jordan where they will make 2,500$/year and 60% of their kids will not be able to read and write? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// And this is the sad truth (for you) which you prefer not to know. So you just don't discuss it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqv7ZLwV3M Ahmad Tibi on prime-time comedy show. I really like this guy. Such intellectual modern arabs can be found only in Israel! damn Apartheid country! They laugh on the sometimes too-much security measures in the cities. Too bad I can't translate, its damn funny. Some more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ed9nhk6Apk a comedy strip when the palestinian mickey mouse was on the news: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/09/usa.israel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr3MzLpI-4 Lieberman, Obama and Achmedinjad on Israeli TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYi6ctLpm7I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_erh9EJrRI
Imad. This is the important thing I said. Here, again, for the 3rd time. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// I will explain once again for the mujahedeen: The Israel arabs say: We will never exchange Taibeh, Um-Al-Fahm etc' for Maale Edomim or Ariel. A most discussed solution will be: 1) Jewish Maale Edumim, now beyond 67 borders will be part of Israel, and 2) In exchange, Um-Al-Fahm, arabic city in mainland Israel, will become part of palestine. They can stay at home, they don't have to move. Just the landlord changes, and they will have to change papers. you understand? For this solution, it is the Israeli Arabs who say: "NO!". we want to remain part of the Israel as it is today. What part of the sentence you do not understand? tell me. are they crazy? haven't they heard that Israel is an apartheid state? or maybe they just can't give up 24,000$/year in average they make (average jew: 37,000$), and live in a country like egypt or syria or Jordan where they will make 2,500$/year and 60% of their kids will not be able to read and write? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Polls show that 80% of the Israeli Arabs will not agree that their village will be part of Palestine. That's a HUGE majority against such a solution. One would expect from the Israeli arabs to joyfully join their brother and live in their homes, but as Palestinians, no? Why wouldnt they want to join the newborn country of palestine and stay residents of residents, the apartheid state? many sources http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/×ª×•×›× ×™×ª_חילופי_×”×©×˜×—×™× http://www.omedia.co.il/Show_Article.asp?DynamicContentID=5548&MenuID=824&ThreadID=1014017 Unfortunately couldn't find anything in English. Discussing possible creative solutions of peace is not attractive enough for the English media as blood.
Imad, 4th attempt to hear your opinion on Israeli Arab reluctance to "swap territories" between Israel and the future palestinian state - big settlements close to the border to israel, arab villages in Israel close to the border - to Palestine. Israeli Arabs resist - they wish to remain citizens of the apartheid state. How come? quote, 4th time: //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// The Israel arabs say: We will never exchange Taibeh, Um-Al-Fahm etc' for Maale Edomim or Ariel. A most discussed solution will be: 1) Jewish Maale Edumim, now beyond 67 borders will be part of Israel, and 2) In exchange, Um-Al-Fahm, arabic city in mainland Israel, will become part of palestine. They can stay at home, they don't have to move. Just the landlord changes, and they will have to change papers. you understand? For this solution, it is the Israeli Arabs who say: "NO!". we want to remain part of the Israel as it is today. What part of the sentence you do not understand? tell me. are they crazy? haven't they heard that Israel is an apartheid state? or maybe they just can't give up 24,000$/year in average they make (average jew: 37,000$), and live in a country like egypt or syria or Jordan where they will make 2,500$/year and 60% of their kids will not be able to read and write? ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////