Teen runaway to avoid being killed, should she be returned?

LogicFlux; Islam religion is like 2 parts u can say .. SUNNA and SHEA ,
Those who hit their heads are SHEA ,
We "the sunna" dont do that and that NOT ALLOWED in our religion..

P.S: Sunna and shea is just like maronite and orthodox in christian religion..

so dont judge a religion from a group of people.. as I DONT JUDGE CHRISTIANS according of what i see from a group of christians people.

P.S: i have many christians friends and i love them more than my other muslims friends..

so dont make this as judgement..

Thanks.

P.S: Islam is about peace, love , freedom , the love of other..

before u judge read more about islam and thanks...

and Happy ramadan for all muslims

 

and yeh one more thing .. if i wanna start listing some wrong things that some parts of "Christians" do, i will not finish.. and am ready for longggg very long discussion .. as i was in christian schools for like 18 years of my life.. and i know everything about Christianity.. as I know about my religion (that am proud of) Islam.

I even (duno what i should call it in english) , i ring the bell of the church and that was in bchary (Lebanon) <-- my country..
also i participated in the sunday praying in a church .. thats confirm that i have no problem with any religion , even am Muslim .. that proves more that Muslims respect all other religions

Thanks..
if u have any question.. am ready to answer.

regards.

 

@chaos
i know what honor killing is. and it is bad. what is your point? all killings are bad. i do not even think that they should only intervene if the parents would kill her. i think child protective agencies should intervene in a lot of cases that wouldn't end up in child's murder. like malnutrition, drug presence in home, mental abuse and many others. possibility of murder and physical abuse are certainly ground for intervention.

 

Well err yea. Actually we couldn't agree more regarding this thread.

All I said, is one small additional thing:
if she ran away and said that she is afraid of being a victim of honor killing, that's already a good-enough reason to keep her away from her parents. even if she's lying, until things are made clear. that's all. you don't gamble with people's life.

 

hmmmm...
love!
peace!
Freedom!

 

I think u did not read what i wrote...
read again and again...

and read my 2nd post k ?

 

Peace, love, and freedom are not things I would associate with islam.

 

and why u are saying that ?
explain ur point of view...

 

Folks this is Islam it's not a peaceful it full of hatre.



But too many people today don't want to heard truth it ..



There is only one truth Jesus God who came in the flesh .
Jesus never forces anyone to follow him it's free will.

 

oh lol ... k guys .. i think i will not answer u anymore .. coz u just dont wanna listen..

i think its my last answer here in this thread....

because everyone see's "what his news want him to see".. i suggest u guys go out of that "propaganda" that u live in ...
in addition, we dont force any one to follow ISLAM.. AS BIG EXAMPLE HERE IN LEBANON , ISLAM AND CHRISTIANS WE LIVE WITH EACH OTHER !

and replying @ danephillips : heh dude, u should read more.. u just made my day... and abt ISLAM isnt peaceful ? what do u see what USA made in iraq ? thats peace eh ? what GB made in IRAQ ? (NUCLEAR WEAPONS ??? why USA AND GB and ISRAEL can have nuclear weapons and arabs cant ? huh ??? what a mind).. SO STFU and respect other religions as i did respect other religion and i respect Christianity...

and as we are talking about religions and we are divided here.. so i will say : THERE IS NO GOD but ALLAH and MOHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET !..


IF MY POST SHOULD BE DELETED GO FOR IT ! but ALL POSTS that talks against islam should be deleted too..

RULES ABOVE ALL ! and not above parts of us.

Thanks.
The end.
regards.

 

lol Mohie, do not worry about these, it's always the same:

"haaaaaaaaaa some Muslims done bad, so f*** Islam!"

now if you want you can do the same, get some news articles, there are tons of them everyday, here are some from today:

and change it to: 20 years old Christian son slaughtered his father


or:

Another Christian son been sent to trial for murdering his parents.

or:

Christian man gets death penalty for double murder, the judge was so merciful and decided not to execute him by sword like in Saudi Arabia, but with electric chair, where his brain will melt and go out of his nose.

and you know the way now, so you can do the same with these from today too...

then send them to Al-Jazeera

and so on.. but wait,, I know you won't do it, cos you are a Muslim

and even if you wanted to do it, I do not think Al-Jazeera would participate in such targeted, organized hate campaign.

 

That's very nice to live in sweet dreams

Lebanon suffered from several bitter civil wars already, and almost another one when harari was murdered by pro-syrian islamists, and almost another one in 2009 with the elections.

Lebanon has two military forces: one is christian-druze (lebanese army subject to the government of lebanon), one is muslim (hizbollah subject to Iran).

The christians want to see western money, education and prosperity,
The muslims want just to fight israel, bring the sharia and the revolution of iran to lebanon.
---->>> These two military forces will clash again in the future.

 

Except if you don't accept him then you're tortured forever in the afterlife.

 

Danephilips, that equates to putting a gun to someone head and asking for money.

Would you call that a gift freely given or armed robbery? Sure you have a choice, you can chose not to give the money, right?

 

YOU should know something about the civil wars that happened.. dont look at us only ... u should look at france also , she had civil war .... and many revolution happened in many countries and many countries had civil wars. thats abt the 1st point..

and now abt the 2nd point about fighting Israel .. oh yeh.. "u think Hibuzllah or what ever u call it the follower of iran" , thats not my problem and really dont care... me as MUSLIM SUNNI, yeh i want to fight ISRAEL , because that land back to PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, SINCE like EVER.. but after WWI WWII, and the divisions that happened after the agreement of "SYKES-BIKO" (sorry duno how to write it exactly in english), that agreement divided the area into 2 parts A and B ( i will not go into the division except if u want some details). and 1 point of the agreement was that they need a powerful country in middleast that support USA , so they come with idea to pay for all the Jewish of the world and put them in the land of "PALESTINE", and they started to give them guns and smart bombs.. and kick palestinians out of their lands... (more details upon request...) (u should read history from world wide and see world wide poinbt of view) and not only the history that they teach u in school (bcz they might hide some real things.)..

okay.. now about fighting israel.. dude its not when HIZBULLAH existed the fight with israel began.
Hizbullah was created and started to appear to public in like 1982 or 1983..

Israel made wars against Lebanon like 6 time before Hizbullah exists.

example 1982.... 1967 .. 1964 ... and so more...

and yeh dude we will fight.. well at least israel got lost in war 2006 against us.. (and if u wanna say no.. go check VINOGRAD that treated the big bosses in israel because they failed in the war) .. what gained israel from the war ? oh yeh they destroyed buildings.. they killed more than 300 childs under the age of 14 .. and killed women.. BUT HOW MEN FROM HIZBULLAH killed ? umm lets see about 50 ? .... how many soldier did israel lost ? about 40 soldiers (thats what israel says .. we dont know what she hides).. and more than 300 injuries ? ISRAEL LOSTS alot of tanks ? THE MIRKAVA ? oh lala .. want more ? we could shoot the nuclear building in demona .. but we did not .. because that would destroy all area.. but dont u think if we was gonna lose aint we gonna shoot and erase israel ? lol believe me in the next war .. not only Hizbullah will be fighting...
WE THE "SUNNA" gonna fight near Hizbullah against ISRAEL (and yeh we are the war, we are not afraid), believe me now we are powerful more than 2006, and the boss of israel (berrez) , Hizbullah got now more than 80,000 rockets ! (if in the war of 2006 hizbullah had only 12000 rockets and israel could not destroy hizbullah.. what about now ?)... and yeh dont forget what surprises could this have.. dont forget in 2006, we detroyed ISRAEL ship (SAER).. lol....

as conclusion.. i dont care if muslims was SHEA or SUNNA.. as they fight who come to our land .. we will f*ck them. (even usa were in Lebanon, but in 1982 we shoot them, more than 100 soldier are booh.. ask about it.. here in lebanon we dont care who fights.. we only believe to protect our land...)

and yeh about syrian thing(even tho i dont like syria and i dont respect it that much).. lol dude we all know who killed Our prime minister our martyr Hariri.. even usa/israel/GB/France/ even the world knows who killed our martyr .. but that goes in political world wide (and in addition to prove that , USA MONITORING THE WORLD FROM SATELLITED 24/7 even GB, when they were asked to provide pictures.. they did not why ??? think about it...


and thanks.
and as i said am ready to go in long discussion..
ask anythin and am ready to answer.

thanks.


and yeh // Editing here...

about this thing.. u should know that the christians were one of the reasons in the civil war in lebanon in the past. and yeh examples at that SAMIR GEAGEA , AMIN EL GMAEL....
want more ? lol .....

dude .. read read read read read .. thats ur way to know more..


and about this.

Here u are so wrong.. Lebanese military subjected to the government of lebanon is formed from DRUZE,CHRISTIANS,MUSLIM SUNNA,MUSLIM SHEAA(those who u call subjected to iran, and i dont think that).....

and about hizbullah, we call it resistance (as in france the movement of CHarles Digol , but in another way here) ....

the difference that lebanese military is subjected to a political decision and cant move untill a decision is done to fight back..
while the resistance dont need a decision from any one to fight when an attack happens....

am looking forward to discuss with u

// editing again here.. as u are from Israel.. i think u touched the pain in 2006.. haha

 

PIZZAMAN
The translation of Mohie's above post from Arabic to English is exactly as follows:

"I am aware of the brutal Irani military intervention in my country, but I don't think its my problem. Actually, I don't care about my country at all and also don't care if its sovereignty is violated and put to laugh."

"I am a MUSLIM SUNNI. Thus, it is my duty to fight Israel (... until it vanishes), I have no other moral choice."

Because the holy land of Palestine is a land of the Islamic Waqf, past, present, and for EVER. No other religion or group has a right on that land but Islam. We make no compromises and take no prisoners.

 

u are just so stupid.

the question is who are the real owner of the land ? PALESTINIANS AND NOT ISRAEL !

and about iran thing.. why should i care if iran got nuclear weapon .. while israel and usa and gb have nuclear weapon ???

huh ???
so go STFU !!
u are added to my ignore list
fuck u and fuck israel

viva palestine !
viva la resistance
viva islam

 

That must be that "peace and love" you were trying to convince us of earlier. I love how little time the religious need to expose themselves as hypocrites.

 

@CHAOS
dude iranians played you in lebanon.
lebanon was turning toward west. syrians had to leave.economy was getting better,tourism was improving and so on. iran did not want that because they were losing influence. if lebanese didn't need iranian money iran would loose its influence. that would make them more vulnerable to an attack by israel.so they played you. they took two idf soldiers, as expected you over reacted and bombed lebanon. so israel was reaffirmed as enemy. then they pumped millions in lebanon, they became friends. they manged to reestablish their foothold and kept the cost up for any future attack on iran.
but you do not want to accept that your country made a mistake. so you need to hold on to this notion that everything is because of islam.

 

Ok, we will not argue again. Iran was not the point. The point was "can Islam be considered as a violent religion?".
And again you "go around". Even if u're right about Iran (and u're not), that's just a very minor small case study. That does not serve to disprove my allegations.

Mohie's post was what they call in German : "wie bestellt" (just as ordered and right on time)
I just translated his text to human language, trying to show how my simple point (aka the religion of peace is the religion of violence) is reflected in his words:

Read his words. See the hate, the violence. This is his 1st post, we both never had a chat with him.
The violence that is reflected from his words is only due to him being a part of the "religion of peace", as he confirms in his own words.
It can't get any simpler than that pizza.
Again (the keyword is bolded and underlined)

= "I am a MUSLIM SUNNI. As such, it is my duty to fight Israel (... until it vanishes: chaostrivia). There is no other alternative!".