What do you think about the relegion Islam(specialy non-muslims)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Aqeel Qureshi, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #41
    LOL. I got a neg rep. So I would like to clarify what I meant:

    The united states has taken on too many tasks in its wish to be the global policeman. With the greatest deficit in history and a public that's getting very tired of being the world's policeman. The Americans also don't go to war anymore without asking themselves: "is it really necessary?".

    I foresaw the weakening of the US Dollar and I expect that this trend will continue: I think that it will reach the level of 2 UDS = 1 Euro and beyond. Dollars are printed around the clock: soon they will be worth nothing. I earn online in $$$ and convert them immediately. :)
    In Israel, the chairman of the bank is buying 100$ mil every day to keep a higher value artificially - we export a lot and it is crucial to us.

    My "prophecy" is that in 5-10 years time the USA will become from a global policeman to just a "normal country" - one that minds mostly its own business. For Israel, this will be a disaster, but I'm afraid this will be the case. Obama administration started the process already.
     
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  2. Kerunai

    Kerunai Active Member

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    #42
    i don't see Islam is a threat to anyone ... i bet people talking rubbish about islam never knew what islam is..they were brainwashed by films and youtube videos ...just like when you watch cannibal holocaust on TV, u started to label all of aborigines that way ..

    the world doesn't need anymore money or anymore power, the world need tolerance and living in respect of others religion

    whether you will die and rot

    and to atheist, please explain where do you go after you dies ?

    do you simply state that human have no soul ?

    and life is, for atheist, is like when sperm meets bla bla ..and you were born..and bla bla bla ...go to school...get good job..marry....have kids....raise kids ,...bla bla ...and bla bla bla ...you die ...full stop ?
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    #43
    I agree. So long as you (meaning, anyone) leave me and mine alone, peace to you, however you achieve it.

    I presume, my dead tissue sinks back into the earth. My preference would be to be left in a backwoods wilderness, to feed some creature needing the protein.

    I simply state I can't know, but because of that, and given my bent to empiricism, I do not hold a religious belief. I also state, I much more see my attachment to life as a "separate thing" - this clutching to this thing called "mine," and that would include this notion of "my soul," like a chunk of concrete, distinct and impermeable to other things - well, I do feel it can weigh one down; I won't call it thus, but what Buddhists call maya, an illusion.

    Basically, yes. But between "sperm meets" and "full stop," the "bla bla" is pretty interesting. :D
     
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  4. Emma1

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    #44
    I have no any thing against with any religion. My perception in life is that we should respect each & every ones belief & religion.:)
     
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  5. ChaosTrivia

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    #45
    Ofcourse that human have no "soul" !

    religious people say, that our ability to think, to engage in social life, to care for other human beings and creatures, to mourn the dead and above all: to be self aware, which animals do not poses, are due to the existence of a "soul".

    Just as their best logical justification for the existence of god is: "we exist", so is their best justification for the existence of the soul is: "we are self aware".


    I recommend you to read this wikipedia article about elephants in full. If u're lazy, read sections "Elephant altruism", "Death ritual", "Art" and "Self awareness" at the bottom.

    The common religious argumentation described above implies that not only humans, elephants have souls too.
     
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  6. plutoegg

    plutoegg Well-Known Member

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    #46
    Well maybe you dont have a soul :mad: , but I do!

    Lol. just kidding.


     
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  7. Dodara

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    #47
    A human being has no soul :eek:

    Maybe you will claim that a human being has no brain too ? :rolleyes:
     
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  8. ChaosTrivia

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    #48
    Claiming that humans have no brains is just as stupid as claiming that humans have souls.
     
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    #49
    I think that Islam is hijacked by terrorists. just like judaism is hijacked by zionism,
     
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    matttiya88 Well-Known Member

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    #50
    some humans have brains but cant use their brain to think properly..:)
     
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    #52
    I hate the fundamentalists within Islam that are killing people on all continents, killing fellow members of Islam that are not fundamentalists, killing non-Islamics, terrorizing the world, killing innocent people by way of suicide bombers and terrrorist attacks.

    The non-fundamentalists and moderates within Islam should work to control the fundamentalists. Frankly they should be killing them. There is no other alternative. The fundamentalists are armed to the teeth and trying to kill everyone else. Non islamics should join in eliminating the fundamentalists, IMHO.

    Frankly, I think all fundamentalists in all religions suck. They are the crazies that end up killing everyone else.

    btw I am not Islamic.
     
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  13. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #53
    So chaos when u met your soulmate did you tell her that your nerve endings and ganglions turned on and off in rapid fashion and that she was the perfect chemical partner for you. You said of course humans have no soul. Please prove it to me:D. I would like some scientific data to prove that assertion. Maybe there were some tests that I do didnt know about somewhere?

    Not all religious people have no proof. The symmetry and order of the universe are indirect proof of gods existent, and also the fact that all of this had to have a starting point which had to have been guided by some kind of force with some sort of purpose or intelligence.

    The material that helped to form the big bang and the 4 major natural forces had to have had some starting point themselves. You must at least concede that this is a pretty strong possibility of an intelligent force of some sort .

    The atheistic side then must stand on faith to believe that no soul exists just as theists stand on faith that it doesnt exist. I think the next time i approach a woman I will tell her that my ganglions told me that me and her are a perfect balance for each other. I think it would be great on a first date to say:D
     
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  14. ChaosTrivia

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    #54
    Actually, I think that Islam is a very funny religion.

    Jerusalem day in Iran children show: after the funny guy, check out the 3 boys in the gay green clothes! LOL!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4e8FpFkBRM

    Wife beating again, but this guy is so FUNNY. Sitting there with this expression of a professor and encouraging men to teach their wives some "discipline". You gotta read everything he says, hilarious!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRMfSRSeA8

    Check out the 1st minute. crazy stuff!
    Then, go to time 3:40. It will kill you laughing!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7nSwRAUo7M

    Call on Obama to Convert to Islam
    Somebody call security before this man pulls out his sword and butchers everybody in the studio!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kOCxu0dvk

    Now this is crazy stuff! I had to watch it 3 times to believe what I see.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqWGtykYNE
     
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  15. ChaosTrivia

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    #55
    Science does not deal with proving what does not exist. Science is about treating what does exists, can be defined, explained, and usually also measured.

    The universe is not symmetric, and not "ordered".

    Starting point? maybe. Everything is possible. We just don't know much yet.

    Again, the big band is just a scientific theory. Be careful when you use it to support the existence of your god, as tomorrow a better, completely different theory might replace it. And then mean people like me will quote you praising the big band theory.

    Same like the first quote - the atheistic (=scientific) side speaks in the auditoriums of the universities only about entities which he can precisely define, and related to other entities via sets of equations and principles. All other imaginary things and concepts that do not fall into this category - we leave them for the religious people to discuss over dinner table and in churches/mosques/synagogues.
     
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    #57
    I think it's a Cult Religion...it's creepy (like most religion). With this religion, if you can some how "get" your way, then this religion is for you. One of those "getting" your way is being able to marry multiple wives and young children (Google it up)
     
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    #58
    That's the main reason why Islam is growing..Who wouldn't want 3-5 girls by their side:D.
     
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    #59
    That's the reason why most converters to Islam are females ? ;)
     
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    #60
    What happens to the male converters from Islam?

    Does your peaceful religion and your God Allah command that they be punished?
     
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