The $2,000 and over club

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Las Vegas DUI Lawyer, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. Aion

    Aion Well-Known Member

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    #61
    1. Do you make a new website on a daily basis
    No
    2. what marketing tools do you use?
    My own Craigslist Harvester. Bulk Email sender. Wont say the brands.
    3. do you blog comment
    No
    4. do you social bookmark
    No
    5. do you write 20 blogs in one day
    Hell No
    6. do you outsource everything
    Yes Completely
    7. do you linkwheel
    No
    8. how many hours do you spend in front of the computer
    5 a day. Mainly just doing various things. Not marketing
    9. do you contact webmasters to link exchange / buy a banner / sell banners
    Nop. Never have. Don't think I ever will. That stuff is childs play.
    10. do you make videos
    Only when I am utilizing Youtube
    11. do you check your stats hourly
    Usually
    12. do you write articles / outsource articles
    No
    13. do you write press releases / outsource press releases
    No
    14. do you have programs that automate stuff for you?
    Sort of.
    15. do you rewrite web pages / blogs you've already created, for better SEO?
    No
    16. what sources of income do you have: adsense, affiliate marketing, banner ads on your websites, non-adsense advertising, your own products.
    Affiliate Marketing, My own Product selling. Site Flipping, CPA

    I have mainly answered the questions based off my CPA methods which involve Craiglist. With those alone I am hitting $20k a month :)

    The other methods I do are usually to keep me occupied and are usually fun :)
     
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  2. Idler

    Idler Peon

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    #62
    Yeah, I know, the irrelevant ads have nothing to do with me, more like the person who did it probably did some sort of keyword hijacking. The e-book looks a lot better by the way, just wanted to see what would happen if I did use the keywords, it's hard trying to write about a book like that and not spoil the contents. I don't think I'll ever do a site like that again. Just leaving it to get some juice then pushing it to someone else.

    Well, I'm pretty sure that there are already people complaining about fraudulent clicks, which a lot of people here are guilty of doing (I'm not pointing fingers, so save your remarks). There's also places like Amazon who now ban the use of ad networks to push affiliate sales. Ok, so lets say that's 10% of their revenue in AdWords.

    Now, there are also a lot of brand names blocked by Google, but let's say they start blocking celebrity names du to ticket touting, or scams. There goes the 10% using it for movies, books, DVDs, and other entertainment sites.

    What's left? Well, the sites like the the ones that have been mentioned here earlier, cookie stuffers, pages rich in keywords, etc. Google won't even index these in the first place, why would they accept it into their ad network? There goes another 10%.

    So soon enough, we're going to half pretty much half of the websites that were able to be posted via their network banned because they lure people into buying something that makes them a commission without them knowing, or they think the quality ruins their reputation. Webmasters are going to start arguing that it either doesn't make sense, or they're discriminating against niches.

    Google is constantly toying around with their applications and the way their search engines work. A feature might be there one day, the next day it's gone (DMOZ anyone?!). Orkut was supposed to be HUGE, but it never really made the cut in the places they wanted it to. They're struggling more than you think now because technology is changing and more and more people have computers. There are also so many more developers than there was in 1997 because resources and SDKs are becoming readily available for cheaper costs or even free. Do not think for one day that there isn't a group of people planning a project that will beat Google's success. If there can be Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, and YouTube, all which are in the same range of users as Google, there will be something bigger in the next 10 years.

    Google's previous web designer left because he couldn't understand Google's infatuation with user trends. He hated that they were so concerned with what the website looked like, rather than what it provided us. I'm pretty sure that there will be more resignations because Google has become a perfectionist and cares more about competition than anything else. They don't have a creative soul and focus on numbers than anything else, and that's something that will eventually make them go downhill. One day, none of us are going to like the fact that there's adsense ads all over the place, so they'll just scrape them like that. Just like what happened with Geocities and so many other big websites that existed in the last decade. Google is afraid of failing, but they're not about to admit that.
     
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  3. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #63
    I don't really see your point. You are talking more about a competitor beating google then the sustainability of the adsense business model, which is what I questioned. Google doesn't care about affiliates. They don't need them to survive don't kid yourself. There is only so much exposure you can get from SEO and some businesses will always require the instant traffic and exposure that PPC provides.
     
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  4. Idler

    Idler Peon

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    #64
    If a company really wanted instant traffic, they'd go to TV/Radio/and other means of traffic getters like YouTube featured and the other better options.
     
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  5. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #65
    lol small businesses can afford TV exposure can they?
     
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  6. Idler

    Idler Peon

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    #66
    They can afford Twitter, they can afford MySpace, Facebook, and other forms of FREE advertising. They can also leave their flyers in every building on the same block. and get coupons sent out to every house in the city (been there, done that, it's not that expensive).
     
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  7. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #67
    All businesses can advertise on social sites can they? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  8. Idler

    Idler Peon

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    #68
    Yes, but do you think places like Amazon, eBay, and all them required SEO to make it big?
     
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  9. Erzulie

    Erzulie Peon

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    #69
    1. Do you make a new website on a daily basis - No :)
    2. what marketing tools do you use?
    3. do you blog comment - Very rarely (from time to time, when I have time/desire)
    4. do you social bookmark - Very rarely
    5. do you write 20 blogs in one day - NO :)
    6. do you outsource everything - From time to time.
    7. do you linkwheel - No
    8. how many hours do you spend in front of the computer - 3-10 hours. It depends
    9. do you contact webmasters to link exchange / buy a banner / sell banners - No
    10. do you make videos - No
    11. do you check your stats hourly - Sometimes :)
    12. do you write articles / outsource articles - Yes
    13. do you write press releases / outsource press releases -No
    14. do you have programs that automate stuff for you? - Yes! :)
    15. do you rewrite web pages / blogs you've already created, for better SEO? -No
    16. what sources of income do you have: adsense, affiliate marketing, banner ads on your websites, non-adsense advertising, your own products. - adsense, affiliate marketing, selling links, my own products/services.
     
    Erzulie, Aug 21, 2009 IP
  10. Norebbo

    Norebbo Active Member

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    #70
    I can't say it any better than this. There is no easy path to making money - there are a minuscule few who get lucky, but most get there through lots and lots of hard work.

    And that's all I'm going to say about that. :D
     
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  11. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #71
    Wow. Your argument keeps getting worse and worse. Adwords/Adsense is one of the most important advertising methods IN THE WORLD and there is no evidence it is going anywhere anytime soon.

    I think you need a little more experience before you continue trying to spout this drivel.
     
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  12. Kayarc

    Kayarc Peon

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    #72
    great thread... thanks to everyone who is responding. A lot of valuable information for people who generate income on the Internet
     
    Kayarc, Aug 21, 2009 IP
  13. Idler

    Idler Peon

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    #73
    Oprah is the most powerful. :D.

    Tell me, how did Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Adobe, and all them get so powerful? Adsense isn't exactly an old technology. There were other ad networks before them.
     
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  14. remshad

    remshad Active Member

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    #74
    I dont have enough time for free survey.
     
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  15. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #75
    Terrific products.

    Windows = revolutionary
    Photoshop = revolutionary
    Google (the best search engine in the world) = revolutionary
    iPod/Mac = revolutionary

    You miss the point. For every one large corporation there are thousands of small businesses who employ a few people and can't afford large advertising campaigns. Adwords is the BEST way for them to promote themselves to a targeted customer base with a small budget.

    Now I've taken several marketing courses, including an internet marketing course - so I know my stuff. You sound like a 16 year old kid who is trying to impress us but doesn't really understand marketing or business in general.

    If you're going to convince us that Adsense will die, you had better come up with more intelligent reasoning than that.
     
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  16. jijigren

    jijigren Well-Known Member

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    #76
    1. Do you make a new website on a daily basis
    No
    2. what marketing tools do you use?
    Google Adword External, Backlinks checker, sitemeter.com
    3. do you blog comment
    rarely
    4. do you social bookmark
    yes
    5. do you write 20 blogs in one day
    No, just around 3 to 6 posts
    6. do you outsource everything
    yes twice
    7. do you linkwheel
    yes only once
    8. how many hours do you spend in front of the computer
    6 to 10 hours a day
    9. do you contact webmasters to link exchange / buy a banner / sell banners
    no
    10. do you make videos
    no
    11. do you check your stats hourly
    Several times a day
    12. do you write articles / outsource articles
    yeap
    13. do you write press releases / outsource press releases
    No.
    14. do you have programs that automate stuff for you?
    No.
    15. do you rewrite web pages / blogs you've already created, for better SEO?
    Yes but rarely
    16. what sources of income do you have: adsense, affiliate marketing, banner ads on your websites, non-adsense advertising, your own products.
    adsense and affiliate marketing, making $90 to $100++ daily. Hope to increase it more in the near future
     
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  17. web-rocket

    web-rocket Active Member

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    #77
    Ok I never post about whats successful for me but i sure don't bash someone for asking. I think your intentions are good. I do build a shit load of sites, at one point I had hundreds. I sold off the majority of them do to lack of time and other interests. For me it's like gambling. I win some and I loose some. To be honest 9 out of ten sites for me fail, but the ones that make it do VERY well. I sold a wallpaper site for over 12K about two years ago. It cost me $700 to make it and the site brought in over $500 a month in YPN ads alone. For me its a crap shoot, I don't know all the secrets but I can give you one. Find a domain that's going to bring in natural traffic. That's VERY tough to do nowadays, one idea is to watch out for upcoming products. BEFORE THEY ARE RELEASED! Buy the domains that are key word specific to that product. Now you have organic traffic to your site and you didn't have to pay anything for advertising. Make a simple site related to that product, and NO you don't have to blow it up with BS articles. Why you ask? Because your domain is key word specific so you will place in the top 10 on the search engine just for the key words in the domain name alone. Another example of something to do, watch out for new movies. A new movie will bring natural traffic for about 3 months 6 if your lucky then it's gone. It a quick way to make a few bucks a day. I really think it's a matter of luck and or hard work, I sold a site to a guy in Canada who makes several thousand a day off his network of sites. He has hundreds of sites though, his solution was to buy up high PR forums and then plaster them with ads. He could care less if the forums died because he was always adding new ones to his network. The site he bought from me had a PR of 7, it took two years for it to drop to PR5... That's with no new content. lol Imagine how much he made off that site. It averaged 12K+ a day in traffic. Any how, I hope this gives you a few ideas.
     
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  18. Steve_P

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    #78
    Good idea for a thread for newbies to have a look at.

    For me, I make my money through affiliate marketing although I'm launching a membership site soon that I'm getting really excited about.

    My day is spent purely on traffic generation and learning new techniques. I'm lucky that my business partner has been doing this for a few years longer than I have and I get alot of guidance from him. After all, you can never know everything.

    Steve.
     
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  19. OwnSerps

    OwnSerps Peon

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    #79
    If only there was a thread with all the information needed to make a successful website. I understand why some people get touchy with these subjects and dont wanna give away their great "ACAI BERRY" selling techniques lol.

    Anyway here you go.

    1. Do you make a new website on a daily basis
    No
    2. what marketing tools do you use?
    Adwords,Adbrite,Facebook
    3. do you blog comment
    Yes.
    4. do you social bookmark
    Yes
    5. do you write 20 blogs in one day
    Nope
    6. do you outsource everything
    Yes,I do.
    7. do you linkwheel
    No
    8. how many hours do you spend in front of the computer
    12 Hours but not working on my sites as i have staff for that, mainly on providing backlink service.
    9. do you contact webmasters to link exchange / buy a banner / sell banners
    Yes
    10. do you make videos
    No
    11. do you check your stats hourly
    2 twice Daily
    12. do you write articles / outsource articles
    Outsource
    13. do you write press releases / outsource press releases
    Outsource
    14. do you have programs that automate stuff for you?
    No
    15. do you rewrite web pages / blogs you've already created, for better SEO?
    No
    16. what sources of income do you have: adsense, affiliate marketing, banner ads on your websites, non-adsense advertising, your own products.

    banner ads
     
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  20. Zekasu

    Zekasu Peon

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    #80
    I'm not in the $2,000 a month club, but I should be there soon. :)

    I enjoy the variety of answers, because it tells me that pretty much everything you do is right if you refine it enough.

    (And yes, I can extract that from short answers. :p)
     
    Zekasu, Aug 23, 2009 IP