High Hops With No Sales, Help Please

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Cool_Flow, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have a tattoo design blog website with plenty of nice content, I'm in the search engines, along with digg.com & technorati and a bunch of other places.

    This site has been running for a month now, and in total I've had over 1,200 hops to clickbank but not a single sale. I promoted 3 different tattoo design sites, but nothing. One site had 555 hops, another had 475 hops, and the other biggest one had 110 hops.

    I dunno what I'm doing wrong, I have traffic, but no one wants to buy. Can anyone help me out.
     
    Cool_Flow, Aug 11, 2009 IP
  2. Webray

    Webray Active Member

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    #2
    Odds are... you're not doing anything wrong. I'd get the hell away from CB and try the many other CB type sites.
     
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  3. ParthS

    ParthS Peon

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    #3
    There could be a bunch of issues:

    - Not targeted traffic
    - Not good products

    These are the two most common.

    I'm currently working on improving my conversion rates PLUS increasing traffic. Your problem is that you have traffic but no conversions.

    Link me to your blog (by the way I use a blog model to make all my commissions). Also, check out Brian Clark's Aurhority Rules on creating content for your blog: http://authorityrules.com/
     
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  4. Cool_Flow

    Cool_Flow Peon

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    Well I make sure that all my links have "Tattoo Designs" or a good variation, and none of my links to my site are blind links, so I believe I'm targeting my traffic, It could be that the product(s) are not good or people are not interested in buying tattoo designs considering if you know how to look online you can find free ones.

    http://tattoodesignblog.com I keep posting new posts everyday, when I first started I was posting 3 times a day, to get my backlinks up in search engines.
     
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  5. shand0

    shand0 Well-Known Member

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    What is the main source of traffic, if social bookmarking sites so this is the problem...
     
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    jacky8 Active Member

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    Hey, I have promoted such a program and my conversion has been around 1 in 200. I suggest you to review the program in greater detail. It will surely improve the conversions.
    Instead of a direct affiliate link, take the clickers to a review page where you can explain all the advantages of a program.
     
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  7. ParthS

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    You seem to be writing all reviews. Teach your potential clients first. If you can give them one piece of advice that can help them with their tatoo designing, they'll trust you for life, and they'll buy something from you. Read the report I linked out to. http://authorityrules.com/
     
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    finalroundmedia Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to start a conspiracy theory but something similar happened to me a few months ago and I read that CB can mess up your account if you get a certain amount of refunds (I was the affiliate for a forex robot). Try opening a new account and change the hoplinks on your blog and see if you get conversions. The week that I did that, I got my first sale in nearly 2 months. I don't think that was a coincidence.

    I would leave CB but the money is too good -_-
     
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  9. Cool_Flow

    Cool_Flow Peon

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    I did open another clickbank account and change all my links on my blog. So we'll see if that works.
     
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    bro also I would maybe consider monetising your traffic another way.

    try CP offers that pay $1.75 - $3 on a simple email submit, hit your visitors twice and give them the option.

    its just a shame to not have any conversions on soo many visits.

    good luck
     
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  11. misterdonman

    misterdonman Active Member

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    Or maybe it's just an issue with the product you're trying to sale.
     
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  12. Alevoor

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    #12
    Did you notice the grav stat for your products? This is given below each product after commission detail.
    As a rule of thumb, I can say that higher the grav (gravity) better is the product's conversion.

    It also depends on the sales copy conversion ratios. Choose your products carefully.
     
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  13. Cool_Flow

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    Well The first couple products I tried promoting had a gravity of 400+, so they had good grav. But still no sales. Now I'm trying a lower priced product.

    I'm thinking I got into the niche market at the wrong time, since most people get tattoo designs at the first of spring into summer.

    I've been messing around with internet marketing for years, tried tons of different ideas and programs people say to do. So far I'm in the red for budget, and I haven't made a single sale. So I'm kinda at a crossroads, continue with the site (it has been getting up in the google rankings) or try to sell the domain and try again with a new niche.

    Any suggestions towards that?
     
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  14. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    I promoted tattoo design websites a while back. The conversion rates were pretty ugly. I used a review page which helped slightly, but even at its best point conversions were like 0.5%. I think there are enough places to find free tattoo designs - most consumers aren't interested in paying for the service.
     
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    Three thoughts on tattoos products:

    1) I have been promoting tattoo designs for quite some time and they are low converters.

    2) I have a vending business that sells temporary tattoos - Since March, tattoo sells have been unseasonably low - I have noticed a pick-up in sales in the last couple of weeks.

    3) Tattoos are a "luxury" or a "status" item. In times of financial crisis, people become more conservative and don't spend on unnecessary products and services.

    You certainly are sending enough traffic to get some sales, but it maybe a time when people are only looking and not buying. You may need to be patient with this product and concentrate on others for a while.
     
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    Yep its kinds seasonal like so many products, and this year is really bad as stated earlier. Just now seeing a up tick in sales. I would shelve it and test some new markets always keep some irons in the fire as one niche dies move to the next.
     
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  17. Alevoor

    Alevoor Active Member

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    Whether you realized it or not, internet market is no different than offline marketing, whichever way you look at it and it is going to remain that way for ever.

    When it comes to the point of making the actual sale, remember that just two things matter 1) receiving the money and 2) delivering the goods. Now put yourself into a shopkeeper's shoes. Would you switch businesses very frequently or would you run ads (adwords or whatever) endlessly or would rather you concentrate on converting whatever leads you get? This is not as simple as it sounds but you've got to work around the hardest part for good.

    Likewise, choosing a line of business is not an easy task too. People tend to go by the trend of the day that dies down shortly afterwards. Personally, I try to relate everything to real life situations. For example: would a tattoo designs' store succeed in my locality for the next many years, what additional services I can add to it to keep pace with trends, how many customers I need everyday to keep going on for years and so on. (It's a different matter to sell off a shop)

    I am not an expert on tattoo market, but if you can sell your products to repeat clients, you can try persuading your past customers also. In my view, you need to go slow on advertisements.

    Good luck
     
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  18. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    I completely disagree.

    #1) Clickbank is all digital products - comparing digital products to physical stores isn't effective. No such thing as a tattoo design store, but that doesn't mean the websites don't convert.

    #2) You are selling a subscription here, so unfortunately, repeat customers don't exist

    That being said - I would never actively advertise a tattoo design affiliate program because of the low conversions. If you have free (search engine) traffic than you can make decent money and don't need to worry about your costs. But going the PPC route on a poorly converting niche will only lead to misery.
     
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  19. Alevoor

    Alevoor Active Member

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    Low conversion says it all.

    Chasing something whose trend curve flattens out is not good for long term. If you (I) can classify products broadly into those that serve needs and those that serve passion, you know which class tattoo designs belong to and whether it has longer potential or not. Clickbank has many other products which are in constant demand too.

    Whether your store is digital or physical, comparison is a essential on business parameters, not on the specificities of conducting the business. While specificities differ, business potential doesn't.
     
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  20. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    I already explained - it has nothing to do with "trends". The problem is that the information which you are "selling" can be found available for free. This offset by the fact that getting free tattoo traffic to advertise these programs with isn't that difficult.

    Stop making stuff more complicated than it needs to be.
     
    dlm, Aug 14, 2009 IP