Embryology in The Holy Qur'an confirmed by Dr Keith Moore

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    Hi
    The 1st two urls are broken, please fix them
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out, they have been fixed.
     
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    not again please...
     
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    Is that an argument for the validity of the entire book? I hope so, I'm in the mood for destroying an illogical argument.
     
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    Feel free to try and fail ;)
     
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    Ok, so we can conclude, by your logic, that any book which contains a "fact" is entirely true regardless how insignificant the "fact" is and how proposterous the rest of the story is. Is that what you are claiming? Are you claiming that Godzilla exists because Godzilla is from japan and japan is a real place?

    See how your logic doesn't stand up to even the smallest amout of scrutiny and how your logic is dismanted using an example as infantile as Godzilla. Now go away and come up with a different rationalisation for believing in the patently untrue.
     
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    Insignificant fact, so you admit its a fact, that's good.

    Being insignificant or significant that's for the science to decide which they already have decided that it is ;)

    Godzilla !? :eek:
     
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    I think I finally figured out Islam. Nostradamus is Allah.

    Or at least their followers fall for the same shit.
     
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    Sorry you seem to have chickened out of answering the simple question written in plain English which I put directly to you. I'll as you again. Are you claiming that if a book contains one fact it automatically makes the rest of the book factually accurate?

    Does the fact that japan exists make the claim that Godzilla exists valid and accurate?

    This really is an easy one. Answer my question and then run away with your tail between your legs. We should have this wrapped up in no time.

    By the way I don't know if it's claims are accurate, I havnt looked, but the destruction of your argument doesn't require me to counter your claims, only your logic, or more precicley the lack of it. Now answer my question, there's a good lad.
     
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    I will make it easier for you since your brain is limited to godzila :eek:

    The fact is a proof that the Qur'an is the word of god as stated by different scientists.

    If a book contain one right fact then the credibility of that book will increase, which is not the case with The Holy Qur'an, since the The Holy Qur'an contains many scientific and non scientific facts which are all turned to be true, confirmed by science, scientists and others and since you can not find one false fact, then the Qur'an is the world of God and i challange you to provide one false fact ;)

    Since you are too narrow minded to see the significant of the fact that the Qur'an has explained the stages of the developing of the human being from stage 1 to the last stage and which scientists have discovered recently after the invention of the microscope and they said that the description of the Qur'an is so accurate, others scientists go further and explain more that there are facts in the human developing in The Holy Qur'an that science itself did not discover yet.

    So The Holy Qur'an is the word of god as stated by different scientists, not a godzila limited brain ;)
     
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    So any book which contains one fact is instantly entirely true? Is that what you are saying? It's a yes or mo answer. You can manage typing out a 2 or 3 letter word can't you?

    Though truth be told I'm glad you are unwilling/incapable of answering, it profoundly demonstrates how fatuous your illogical argument is.
     
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    furthur proof that god was probably ET. think about it. what would medieval people call ET?
    ET scientifically advanced [all powerfull] coming from the sky[space traveler],and hiding it's face[he has three eyes]. but this would explain everything about religion and fit it perfectly with science.
    i am serious
     
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    When all the facts in a book are true then yes the entire book is true ;)
     
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    Ah, like the fact about the sun setting in a muddy pool? You are done. Consider your argument destroyed
     
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    Your trying to run away.

    Provide proof and source of your claim :)
     
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    LOL, that's funny. [​IMG]

    As far as the quran is concerned, it does have contradictions. However, I highly doubt any muslim on DP will admit it. In the same way they can read about how violent Muhammad was, and pretend like he wasn't. Islam is violent, but it's not just that, as NPT pointed out in the other thread, Abraham was a rapist. If these people lived today, we would probably commit them to mental institutions.
     
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    i am.there is actual evidence of ET all over the world. pyramid of Egypt for example it is logical that they would have contacted the locals. and it is logical that they would have been called god.
     
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    does the sun set in a muddy spring or is it complete bollocks? Let me guess, metaphor? As I don't doubt all examples of complete shit found in the Quran will be.

    how degrading it must be to get schooled on your own religion by an atheist. You came here expecting to teach us about it and so far you have shown yourself to know less about it than I do.
     
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    Instead of going and posting Anti-Islamic web sites which change the explanations of The Holy Qur'an to fit their claims, you could post the sources from Islamic web sites and then you can try and prove your point which you can not if you have provided the true source :)

    If you need to learn Islam you go to an an Islamic Scholar or website not an Christian Scholar or web site and inversely ;)

    Here are trusted Islamic sources for the readers:
    http://www.tubeislam.com/
    http://www.scienceislam.com/
    http://www.islamtomorrow.com

    Its not degrading to ask for the source, is it ?!

    Since you are going to claim something you have to provide a source or a proof which i have requested form you, otherwise your claim will not be considered or look into, its simple as that.

    I'm happy you have passed the Godzila stage of thinking, but no your still far away to reach the level of teaching :rolleyes:

    I will reply right away to your claim, but i would like the readers to focus in the fact that in any discussion between a Muslim and a non Muslim, most of the non Muslims usually try to change the topic since they can not prove it wrong or even discuss it as you can see in this thread.

    The Holy Qur'an is speaking here about Dhu'l-Qarneyn which is a historic person.

    And it continue saying: (when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring)

    (فَأَتْبَعَ سَبَبًا ,حَتَّى إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ وَوَجَدَ عِندَهَا قَوْمًا قُلْنَا يَا ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّا أَن تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّا أَن تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًا)
    سورة الكهف 83-86

    In Arabic (مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ) which mean (Sun Set) is used to describe either time or place.

    So when it says that (when he reached the setting-place of the sun) it means that he reached it at the time of sun set, mean it has been used to describe time.

    Its like when night start coming and we say the sun is disappearing, but does the sun, of course no, but we are using it to describe the time.

    And when it says that (he found it setting in a muddy spring)
    (وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ)

    The Arabic word (وَجَدَهَا) means (He found it) or (It appeared to him) and it has other meaning in English as well.

    It means that it appeared to him that the sun is setting in a muddy spring at the time of sun set.

    The explanation can be found in here as well by DR Zakir Naik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8R2rVgD2ok

    So, you don't even know what this verse is talking about and so you have failed again.
     
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