Are Hezbollah committing war crimes?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, Aug 5, 2006.

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War Crimes??

  1. Yes

    50.0%
  2. No

    37.5%
  3. Something between Yes and No

    6.3%
  4. Dunno

    6.3%
  1. evolving

    evolving Peon

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    #41
    it is not an excuse for killing civilians
    can't they send comondos
    or at least destroy only hezbollah headquaters nd not the entire region????
     
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  2. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #42
    Savages? in a war situation they tell you where they bomb, Do you see Hizbualla telling israel where they will bomb so they can evacuate from that place?

    Maybe you don't know it but Israel army killed about 300 Hizbualla people, and this war is not just to kill all Hizbualla people, it's to bring israel back all the kidnapped soldiers and for getting Hizbualla disarm their weapons and bring back the power to the Lebanon goverment (right now they don't have enough power to resist Hizbualla).
    And of course, to implement the UN Resolution 1559 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_1559).

    Of course then maybe a Peace with Lebanon, not Hizbualla!
     
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  3. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #43
    That's what Hizbualla wants, that Israel will enter with troops to the area.
    They want this because all the area is rallied and they know Israel will lost many soldiers, so why don't do the job from the air first?
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #44
    Bombing hezbollah's headquarters doesn't constitute destroying an entire region.

    I suppose more reasonable questiona would have been, did hezbollah and hamas have to cross borders to kidnap Israelis? Did hezbollah and hamas have to send in suicide bombers? Did they have to fire rockets into Israel?

    These are fair questions, aren't they? Think about it, if hamas and hezbollah had not taken these actions, Israel wouldn't be going after them, right?

    Isn't it a fair observation that if these terrorist organizations would put down their qurans and get real jobs and try to be productive citizens in the world, they wouldn't have problems from Israel.

    Where I grew up, we often heard "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing."
     
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  5. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    #45
    As I said you sound like a broken record with nothing new, but you already know that.


    You wouldn’t expect anything less from anyone unless they sitting on the same side of the fence as you - if you are not with us you are against us comes to mind :rolleyes:

    As for knowing how I feel about Israel, you have no clue how I feel and you can only make an assumption on the very few posts that I have made on here.

    In saying that I know how you feel about Israel from your BS posts on here and I wouldnt expect anything less. I actually wonder if you had experience in living in a country like that or are you another latehorn that makes their opinions from the media and websites?
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #46
    And you'll hear more of it, so get used to it ;)

    We know what side of the fence you sit on, right?

    You have posts here regarding Israel long before this conflict. Work on hiding your position a little better, if you are ashamed of it.

    I hope you do know my position. I don't hide behind my position or try to play "fence sitter" while only attacking one side or the other. You'll always know where I stand and I don't make excuses for it like others do.
     
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    cormac Peon

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    #47
    Thats the down side of these political threads :p


    As I said you dont know much about me and I will tell your straight off that you have no clue on what side of the fence I decide to sit on, regarding specific conflicts

    I did not say that I did not have comments before the conflict with Israel; as far as I remember, I was making posts about the U.S. "occupying" Iraq. Nor do I deny any of the posts that I have made - I simply stated you cannot judge wide views on a handful of posts, well you can but you will be wrong from guessing.

    Yes I do know your position but as I said, I actually wonder if you had experience in living in a country under conflict or are you someone who makes their opinions from the media ( or a blogspots)?
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #48
    Fair enough ;)

    On your last point, a number of people here suggest that living in a different country gives someone's point of view more credibility. I couldn't disagree more. I have lived in Germany and Korea and visited a number of countries over the last twenty years. Most recently, Utrecht in the Netherlands. Having been fortunate enough to travel to a great many countries over the years and the pleasure (and not so pleasure) of actually living in a few, I can categorically state that living in other countries has no bearing on determining what is right or wrong in this conflict. I have not lived in a country under conflict and hope I never will.

    As an outside observer to what is going on, I see:

    Israel was attacked, an act of war, by hezbollah and hamas. These attacks are not new, they have been ongoing for years. Israel took the last of it and said "no more." Iran and Syria have equipped hezbollah over the last six years for just such an event.

    I see Israel dropping leaflets warning of incoming to areas where hezbollah hides among the population. I see Israel warning civilians by loudspeaker. I see Israel warning their own country of incoming from hezbollah.

    I see hezbollah without uniforms, without military bases/camps, blending in and hiding among the UN, women and children. There is no way to determine who is and who is not civilian, so they warn civilians to leave an area. I see hezbollah as cowards for what they are doing. They are intentionally firing rockets exclusively at civilians in Israel and they are intentionally endangering civilians in Lebanon by hiding amongst them while firing on Israel to kill civilians.

    So I evaluate those things. Living in another country does not qualify or disqualify someone from making obvious observations of what is going on. We see examples of the media working to help hezbollah, examples of the media being controlled with anti-Israel reports. We see the UN Observers themselves, acknowledging hezbollah is hiding behind them and firing off rockets.

    If one were truly sitting on the fence over this, they could observe these things and come to an honest conclusion.
     
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  9. dvduval

    dvduval Notable Member

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    #49
    In the end, Israel may prove to be a great tool the United States to allow them to attack Iran, because Iran supports Hezbullah. These are very dangerous times, and there is reason to believe the United States (more accurately, the neocons in the Bush Administration) would like to attack Iran (and probably Syria too).

    War causes many civilians die, even more than terrorist acts, and we are on the verge of a war that will expand further, and kill more innocent people. There is a better way.
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    #50
    Not sure I understand why you would joke like this. There are many peaceful Muslims, and contrary to your earlier statement, they don't all want to destroy non-believers. Actually, most do not.

    In the bible, one can easily select statements that support the idea that we should kill others that are different from us. If you follow the Sermon on the Mount, we should not kill anyone, even if it means our enemy is planning to harm us. There are extremes in Christianity that equal the text found in the Koran.
     
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  11. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #51
    100% True

    "More than 3,000 Hezbollah rockets have hit northern
    Israel in more than three weeks of fighting, the Israeli army said Saturday."

    "The guerrillas fired 170 rockets into Israel on Saturday, killing three civilians. In all, 33 Israeli civilians have been killed by rockets since fighting began July 12."

    Source: Yahoo news

    BTW, the three civilians that killed are arabs, they where killed in their own house in the village "Arab Al Aramasha" ...
     
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  12. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #52
    There is a better way but do you really believe that something else but war will stop CRAZY Ahmadinejad from getting nuke?
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    #53
    We are currently in a situation in the Middle East where war is intensifying in multiple locations. Yes, we can work harder to slow things down.

    We have enough money pay people not to fight anymore.
    We just can't pay them in weapons. That is the problem, and has been the problem for a long time.
     
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  14. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #54
    Do you think that if someone will pay Hizbualla money they will stop???
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #55
    It wasn't a joke. Please do not lie to make a point. I would like to think you are better than that, but this is twice now, and I'm starting to have my doubts. I have not stated that all muslims want to destroy non-believers. I do not use the all card and would appreciate it if you could find alternatives to the discussion besides falsely accusing me of something I did not say. You have talents, use them.

    There are plenty of Bible bashers here if that is your cup of tea.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #56
    Aroma therapy candles and French Chocolates would probably be better :D
     
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  17. roiei

    roiei Banned

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    #57
    Yes, Hasan Nasrallah would be thrilled:

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    :D
     
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