Suggestion Scammers Section

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  1. BadBoyzStudioZ

    BadBoyzStudioZ Peon

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    #21
    Yeah, I know, it was insinuated in one of the posts that we could get scammers to ID themselves. I just thought that was funny. It would be cool if you could set up software that researched them automatically. Like Google their url and such and get feedback with a data sheet that we could all view.

    Hmmmmm... It could be done that way. Interesting:cool:
     
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    757171 Peon

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    #22
    A person under the nick (forwardman http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=287276) sold the stolen domains. I reported this administration and he was banned for 7 days. And now it will continue to sell the stolen domains. I pressed some times report but there are no changes. The forum namepros he (Nicky Vacumer, Lilipot) banned forever. Many people suffered from this man.Do need a place where you can report a scammer
     
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  3. pixeldawn

    pixeldawn Well-Known Member

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    #23
    The problem is that scammers usually get a new account once they have few poor ratings on their current account. Then they build up a couple of good ratings on the new account and are back to their old ways once again.
     
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  4. 757171

    757171 Peon

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    #24
    You can make sms authentication (with the support of all countries) for "Buy, Sell or Trade". For major transactions to the guarantor (such as escrow) of 5-7%
     
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  5. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #25
    Everyone should be using an escrow service imo.
     
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  6. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #26
    There are ways to scan and determine scammers using semantics or ANN. I do know of research in that area. You can't get them to ID themselves but you can theoretically ID them through their posts, but that's a really long haul :)


     
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  7. blog8491

    blog8491 Notable Member

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    #27
    That's why Multiple accounts are not allowed at DP, when you see a person with many accounts, report it. That's the best practice to keep DP clean.

    Good luck
    Blog.
     
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  8. sawz

    sawz Prominent Member

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    #28
    and if you do think someone is a duplicate, just don't report they are a duplicate, provide proof. tell us what makes you think they are a duplicate.

    makes it easier on us. :)
     
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  9. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #29
    That's because we don't necessarily see what you see - for example, you'll likely be more familiar with someone's posting history because we can't go in and look at every single post every time there's a problem. So if you see people posting the same things, mentioning that they have the same email address or own the same sites, etc. in their posts, just let us know and link us to those posts in the report. If you suspect shilling, give us a thread example and the names so we can compare IPs and other account info to see if there are ties.
     
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  10. 757171

    757171 Peon

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    #30
    I have given an example the person which have deceived me on 215$ continues to sell domains further (post count=24). I can result many proofs of its fault. Why do not you take action?
     
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  11. Karen May Jones

    Karen May Jones Prominent Member

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    #31
    Most of the time, general chat was the place to direct your complaints against members.... this was so for a couple of years, .... NOW, I see it is a no-no. I don't need to make complaint threads against members, but, I have seen many made..... This is really the first time I've realized that this type of thread is not allowed.

    Newly enforced? New Idea?

    No matter :)
    See this dated thread to see where I got my thinking! :p
     
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  12. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #32
    Because as the rules say, moderators do not get involved in private business disputes. That's between you, the other member, the payment processor, and the registrars. DP is simply a free platform where you do business at your own risk. We moderate. We do not mediate. We intervene only if actual forum rules are being broken (like selling warez). We are not equipped to deal with personal disputes, and won't get involved in them.

    @JoyGoRound - No, it's not really new. The appropriate places have always been iTrader and deal threads, and there were always infractions if people posted to attack other members in any way. But like with other policies, we can't be everywhere to catch everything, and the fact that others do something doesn't mean it's necessarily allowed.
     
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    757171 Peon

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    #33
    The person sold stolen domains. The question is already closed. Thanks sawz
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #34
    Except sometimes mods do get involved. And sometimes they don't.

    iTrader and infractions are both new. :p
     
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  15. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #35
    They've been around for at least well over a year. Wouldn't call that new. And we don't get involved in private business disputes. We only get involved when specific rules of the forum were broken. Sometimes that occurs in business deals, in which case we act on the rules - not the dispute. That's the official policy, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)
     
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  16. harrisunderwork

    harrisunderwork Well-Known Member

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    #36
    Come guys give some relief to moderators. A forum with about 300k members and about 70k is very difficult to manage. Help them in resolving the case :)

    Regarding the scammer list stuff, I really don't think that it would be good idea, to post such a list, since there is no perfect definition of scammer. If you are really scared to get screwed, use escrow :)
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #37
    I concur, on larger deals.

    On smaller deals, escrow services add an unreasonable amount of overhead in terms of both fees and required process.

    In the end, we all just have to allocate a certain percentage of expenditures to loss. This is the way all major retailers treat shoplifting -- as a cost of doing business.

    I just wish we could implement systems to lower that cost as an overall percentage of expenditures.

    And damnit, we need a ROFL emoticon! :p
     
    Will.Spencer, Aug 20, 2009 IP
  18. BadBoyzStudioZ

    BadBoyzStudioZ Peon

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    #38
    I figured someone would be messing with a way to do that. What is this "SMS Escrow" thing? Anyone have any data on that. I like the sound of it.
     
    BadBoyzStudioZ, Sep 8, 2009 IP
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