DMOZ.ORG good to know tips ?

They are one and the same...

 

become friends with the editors, bribe the editors and finally kidnap the editors

 

Me too not wasting my time in Directory of DMOZ.

 

Not too far from the truth. I once received an email from a guy I knew was an editor promoting his SEO business with the guarantee of a DMOZ listing.

I forwarded it on to DMOZ as proof of corruption, but was told that it was not definitive enough to prove anything.

It is a little private club, and editors think they are immune to any criticism. Watching some of them post on various boards shows just how deeply insulated from the real world they really are.

 

it surely boost up your SERP,but it's hard to get listed

 

I have submitted my website in last two years for about two times. and yet to heard back or get submitted to the directory.

it is awful.. DMOZ is dying

 

i did suggest my url for 5 times by now, and still nothing, it's been a year by now, and still no answer

 

You do realize that every time you resubmitted, you just overwrote the previous submission with the new date? Its probably been a year as you keep moving your site back!!

 

i had no idea about how they order the submissions.

thanks

 

I have come to believe this is FUD.

There are editors that openly talk about deleting sites in the review cue, preferring to add sites that they find on their own. How this helps to locate new and "worthy" sites I have no idea.

 

Just wanted to say dmoz isn't dying, it's run by many volunteers (and I'm one of them). The response time is up to the editor(s) of the category.

 

thanks for the post,

but what can you tell me, how long it can take ? i mean, what's the maximum or what should i particulary do to get listed ?

 

If you're in my category, up to a few weeks. It's again up to the editor(s) of the category. We don't get paid to do this so it's when we're available.

 

The max time is never. Most sites that get submitted are not even listable

 

Ah, as so often happens the editors are coming out to defend their work.

If DMOZ isn't dying, then why so many cats without editors? The web is growing exponentially, yet DMOZ won't approve new editors to share the load. Nor will they root out the bad editors. Any criticism is met with rationalizing and excuse making.

The heyday for directors is long past. DMOZ is dying a slow and agonizing death, but the patient remains in denial...

 

Why do so many post about things they know so little about?

You can beleive what you like, but because so many people repeatedly submit against the guidelines that they agreed to when the y submit, many years DMOZ implemented software chanages so that any resubmission just overwrites the previous one. Resubmisison just disadvanatges a site

Of course they do. Most submitted sites are crap and offer no value.

More than half the new sites added to DMOZ are not submitted. The role of an editor is to build a category of useful resources. It s not there role to process submissions. They use many sources to find new valuable sites to add. The submitted sites is the worse source of good sites, so some editors just choose to ignore them.

It not about defending DMOZ. Its about correcting your factual errors (BTW - I NOT an editor - just a long time interested observer of DMOZ, who takes the time to learn and understand DMOZ and other SEO issues rather then deal in misinformation)

No category is without an editor. There are >200 people that can edit in any category; higher up editors can and do edit in lower level categories.

If you care to download successive RDF dumps from DMOZ, you would see that DMOZ is growing by greater then 2000 sites a month. What other directory is coming remotely close to that growth rate? How is that "dying"?

Why did you make that up for? DMOZ approves >100 new editors a month.

They do. Perhaps you could provide them with the evidence you must have to make such a claim so they can remove the editor(s) concerned.

The criticisms is based on webmasters not having there service expectations met. DMOZ is not there to meet webmasters expectations. DMOZ is not there as a listing service for webmasters.

Perhaps if you unhappy with the service you are getting from DMOZ, ask them for a refund.

 

botw, zoominfo , business.com and searchun. I wanted to include Google Directory but it seems as though they are just listing what DMOZ is listing

 

There we have it folks.

1. Editors just choose to ignore submissions
2. It is not the Editors' role to process submissions
3. Most of your sites are just "crap"

This is why DMOZ is dying.

The vast majority of cats list no editor. Metas hardly count, given that the vast majority of cats are languishing in obscurity, largely ignored, seldom if ever updated, and even more rarely pruned of sites that have changed, lost relevance or been usurped by more informative sites of higher quality.

And that is impressive?

Actually a meaningless statistic. It is only a fraction of the growth of the web (Even if we assume that most new sites are "crap").

How many editors are there? How many monthly submissions?

What percentage of submissions are actually reviewed?

On average, how many sites are added to the directory by each Editor on a monthly and/or annual basis?

Earlier in the thread I referenced an Editor who was promoting their SEO business by guaranteeing a DMOZ listing. I did provide the evidence. It was rejected. The Editor in question stopped raping his cat when he unexpectedly died from a heart attack.

The cat in question has remained virtually unchanged for better than 5 years since his passing. Any number of worthy sites are buried 5 levels deeper in sub-cats than they were when he began, while truly "crap" sites remain at the top level of the cat in question.

At the time of the reorganization, which made marginal sense at best, I tried to engage those that frequent resource zone. I ended up being banned.

After his passing I applied to be editor for the cat, and was rejected. Was told I needed to start with a smaller cat. Well shucks, with his reorganization the "smaller cats had as few as 2 or 3 relevant sites.

Given that I was/am quite familiar with the niche in question, including having sat on 3 Boards of Directors of industry organizations, involvement in industry marketing, and owned my own business in the niche for better than 15 years I had little interest in apprenticing under the demi-gods of DMOZ - even less after my first hand experience with the rigidity and self delusion of their little club.

Yet, webmasters and Editors are largely the only groups that use DMOZ anymore. My logs (and yes, I have several listings in several cats) have not shown a DMOZ referrer in several years now.

As far as I can make out, the only "service" that DMOZ offers these days is that of propping up the oversized, yet fragile egos of those that "edit".

Rather than regurgitating the "official" party line DMOZ propoganda, you would do well to get out and experience the real world. There, if you have an open mind, you will be able to evaluate evidence and formulate your own well thought out opinions - opinions based on empirical evidence rather than dogma and faith.

 

Not necessary to view rdf dumps, just track it on dmoz intro page. Since we had a similar conversation (in the... eh hemmm... correct forum ) right at a month ago... we know the count on 07/11/2009 was 4,588,002. Today it is 4,596,136. Net growth of 8134 sites in that 35 day period. [Avg 232 per day]

Annual "Growth" Numbers for recent years

• They had 5.1 million + in 2005
• They had 4.8 million +about this time in 2007
• They had 4.6 million + about this time last year
• They have 4.5 million + now.

They are "the big one" now... but they've had a net decline in recent years. It's the editors vs Robozilla (the link-checker) in a fairly even fight. Largely a function of age. Many heavily represented free-site providers (geocities, aol hometown, and angelfire sorta stuff) have gone (or are going) away, and many other sites added a decade or so ago have simply run their course.

Somebody posted links a few days ago that beat that. Dmoz is big, but by no means the fastest growing.

Based on the pages showing adds for a day (linked above), BOTW is beating Yahoo (bigtime) on growth, and if the numbers at top of the post hold, Yahoo & Dmoz are roughly in a race for a very distant second on growth.