Medicare being the first. We are wasting billions every year and it is growing. The tax structure is another where there are too many loop holes exploited and we are missing out on needed tax dollars from corporations...including tax breaks to companies that are merely incorporated here, and not actually operating here, iwth American employees. Your grandkids are not paying for anything so get off of it No one is calling anyone victims. But, at the collapse of the financial sector, banks stopped lending money. Plain and Simple. That stopped people from buying cars, houses, refis, temporary loans for inventory and growth, and financing of new construction. The economy cannot grow if there is no money flowing. Maybe you live in a self supporting economy where you don't need anyone else around you to have a cash flow, but I don't. WTF are you talking about? That is the standard self serving, arrogant rhetoric from people who live in a bubble. Everyone else in the world is stupid and weak except me. And I am sure that every single one of your relatives came through and checked in at Ellis Island. Did you even read any of the proposals ? If you had , you wouldn't sound so uninformed with a bunch of stuff you heard at the bar during happy hour. You have it completely wrong and are not even willing to read the many bills that are being discussed. right now it's just a discussion. Nothing is written into stone yet so why are jumping up and down like something has already been done. You are so eager to disagree that you missed the point completely. I'm not sure it's worth the hand strength to dumb it down and explain it to you. Where was your outrage when we started spending a few hundred million a day to invade Iraq ? Cut that expense and we stop bleeding money half way across the world. Good for you. You pay your bills. So does most everyone else in the country And we are trying to cut out the deadbeats, so everyone can afford something. Why are you against it ? It's not going to take anything away from you and your self supporting economy that you have going over there. No one said we did. But why do they get a cut that I pay for ? How is he a part of some entitlement program ? He didn't get anything from anyone, and he paid for college with student loans, just like millions of other college students, that he paid back. He got where he is because he did the work and excelled. But for some reason, I guess that's not good enough for you either. Because he's black he must have gotten some kind of Government handout ? Is that what you are saying ? because you are sure insinuating it. By the way, The President has been screaming at the top of his lungs that he will not sign any bill that makes the American people (or their grand kids) pay for this. We can do this by trimming some fat, and cutting some programs that we don't need anymore, and making the ones we have more efficient. Do you think he is just straight out lying ? He said the same thing on the campaign trail. Nothing has changed. Do you not hear this ? Do you chose to ignore it ? Or do you think it's a lie ? Why do you keep coming up with this "my grand kids will pay for it" stuff ? Have you even studied the economics of it, and what he is trying to accomplish ? He actually trying to stop America for going bankrupt, which is going to happen at this rate. It's been coming for years since your parents generation...it didn't just start. (and I am sure that somehow it's all the "Democrats" fault) I can see that you really haven't actually studied this objectively, just bits of information out of context here and there, or you wouldn't be saying some of the things that are just out right not mentioned in any of the bills that I have read. It's like you made stuff up to make your point more sensational. Your grand kids argument is not valid because it's one of the main concerns in drafting the legislation in the first place. Seriously..read first. Read what's gong on today, not spout rhetoric from the last 20 years.
You are sooo far off base, I don't even know where to start. You claim that Yourbama is trying to keep the country from going bankrupt while he QUADRUPLES our debt before the end of his first term. Tell me again how I have this wrong. I DO think he is straight out lying. What's the rush? Is it because the longer we wait, more crap bubbles to the surface. The more people become aware of what he is trying to do to us. Funny to watch your man spin the information from the CBO. What??? You told the American People what this would cost???? Then Yourbama calls a "private meeting" with the CBO director. Time to serve up some Presidential hand slapping. Next thing we hear is that they have found a way to cook the books so that it becomes revenue neutral. Except for that 245 BILLION for doctors raises. How uninformed am I now, bud? Did I get that wrong also? The money dried up and the banks weren't lending money? Really? Maybe they expected their applicants to be credit worthy? Hell I just bought a condo in Padre. There was money for me. But silly me... I'm just one of those guys that PAYS THEIR BILLS!!! Maybe that 20% down payment had something to do with it. Maybe house wasn't financed at 110%. Oh yeah... got a new car in March. They money was always there if you were responsible. No, I'm not a rich guy. I'm a programmer and my wife is an RN. Tell me again whose gonna pay for all the "victims" of those nasty old bankers. I'm not paying anything extra and now you tell me that my grandkids won't be paying either? And you tell me the I've got it wrong. What's going to happen when foreign countries stop buying our bonds because we are sooo deep in debt? Use your vast knowledge of economics and enlighten us. If you want to blame someone, blame Fannie, Freddie, Dodd and Barney Frank. They made it so easy to borrow that they were handing money to people that had no business getting a loan. You want to increase taxes on the wealthy and I want to cut spending. You want to grow government and I want to shrink government. One sixth of every penny earned in America goes to the government. Enough is Enough. Oh, yeah... Yourbama wants to tax "cadillac" health plans. I guess you missed that one. Soylent Green anyone?
Time for what? Obama and Congress are spending money that we don't have. I didn't see how that is the solution.
Good movie BTW. You're braver man than I. Those that do not see this in the context it is in, and have not followed this and other discussions here would likely label you a bigot, racist, or God knows what else. Nice graphic BTW. Its kinda sad really. The people most blinded by this Hope/Change were the ones that stood to gain the most; the dependents.
Arlen Specter (the traitor) has just summed up the entire reason why Obama wants us to move so fast no one reads the blasted bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Bpshk5nX0&feature=haxa_popt00us00
My wife figured out it would take like 3 1/2 weeks reading 24/7 to get through the entire bill (average reader). It took them how long to introduce it? How can you vote on something you've never read. Hell, I've read more of it than any congressperson. What I've seen thus far, is scary. According to the Bill, Congress, Arlen included get to keep their "special" care. They are not required to join in with the rest of us in the commy care. "Don't boo the Senator for reading a bill that isn't written?" WTF lady? Are you retarded??? I have been reading it for about a week now. Its written. Its 30 years in the making from what I can see so far. She needs to actually read the bill, so does Specter. Is it me, or does Specter sound about 1 foot in the grave?
It is guys like Specter who are responsible for the Republicans loosing the house. Glad he is out of the way. And to be honest I'm just surprised at the amount of negative info that is hot discussions on Digg, YouTube and other social sites about the Obama admin especially his health care. Glad to see the country is finally waking up from their slumber.
There are two possible reasons Specter jumped ship. 1. He's senile. 2. The Dem's had something on him. I'm inclined to go with number one, but it could be both.
It's ironic how the dems got so pissed when the disgraced IL governor got his nomination to the Senate approved and yet they have no problem with Specter whose election had how many thousands of fraudulent votes.
The whole thought of fraudulent votes is beyond normal reasoning --- the last few elections had bandwagons of fraudulent votes along with a suppression of military votes. But to the dishonest the ends justifies the means.
Yeah. I guess me and everyone else in the country are all idiots, and Obama is trying to destroy the country. You got it right. We all have some mysterious plan to just "F" America up, and then all the DEMs are meeting up in Aruba to watch Armageddon. You got us
No one wants to see an fraud when it comes to elections, and the end does not justify the means. This is not some 1960's Black Panther Party of Politics.